Payton goes to the Broncos!

AsylumGuido · 02-01-2023, 08:37 AM

AsylumGuido · 01-31-2023, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by papz

Saints deal Sean Payton to the Denver Broncos for a 7th round pick.

That’s what the headline would be if the Saints had no to little leverage. Let that resonate with you over time and one of these days, you’ll get it.

We got bluffed IMO. It’s not a horrible deal, but we did not extract maximum value in fear of getting nothing back in return.

Yup. That very real fear of getting nothing in return.

If we had more leverage we wouldn't have had to worry. We'd just say, "Hell no. We'll just trade him to that other team. Oh, wait! There isn't another team. Crap."

You don't get bluffed when you are holding a dead hand.

neugey · 01-31-2023, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by papz

Saints deal Sean Payton to the Denver Broncos for a 7th round pick.

That’s what the headline would be if the Saints had no to little leverage. Let that resonate with you over time and one of these days, you’ll get it.

We got bluffed IMO. It’s not a horrible deal, but we did not extract maximum value in fear of getting nothing back in return.

Agree. I wish we were able to get a bit more from Denver. But I'm sure the time frame to consummate the deal was very tight and it's far from a normal trade situation. And with whispers of the whole Harbaugh thing, Denver may have had extra leverage we were not privy to.

QBREES9 · 01-31-2023, 06:46 PM

Oh Boy, well good for him. QB in the first round or what?

OldMaid · 02-06-2023, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by QBREES9

Oh Boy, well good for him. QB in the first round or what?

And a coaching staff.
It is a lot of pieces going on.
SeanPis taking his staff with him, of course.
That is how it usually works.

K Major · 02-06-2023, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by OldMaid

And a coaching staff.
It is a lot of pieces going on.
SeanPis taking his staff with him, of course.
That is how it usually works.

What's exactly the hold up on Pete Carmichael then

?

Rugby Saint II · 02-06-2023, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

What's exactly the hold up on Pete Carmichael then ?

Maybe Sean Payton realizes that he has better options available.

AsylumGuido · 02-06-2023, 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Maybe Sean Payton realizes that he has better options available.

Let's not forget that the Saints could deny access on any lateral coaching move. Then again, they could always offer us compensation like the 3rd rounder they got from us in the Payton rights trade. But we should hold out for two 1st's.

K Major · 02-06-2023, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Maybe Sean Payton realizes that he has better options available.

Lol, of course.

OldMaid · 02-06-2023, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

What's exactly the hold up on Pete Carmichael then ?

Is he going to stay or go to DenBronc or elsewhere? No answer yet. Again,I hope this piece is all settled quickly too.
No drama ,rumors of who is the HC , staff of Saints, contracts, etc.
Go , then be gone.
If whoever wants to leave, then go. ASAP.

02-01-2023, 08:37 AM	#1
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01-31-2023, 07:35 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,573	Re: Payton goes to the Broncos! Originally Posted by papz Saints deal Sean Payton to the Denver Broncos for a 7th round pick. That’s what the headline would be if the Saints had no to little leverage. Let that resonate with you over time and one of these days, you’ll get it. We got bluffed IMO. It’s not a horrible deal, but we did not extract maximum value in fear of getting nothing back in return. Yup. That very real fear of getting nothing in return. If we had more leverage we wouldn't have had to worry. We'd just say, "Hell no. We'll just trade him to that other team. Oh, wait! There isn't another team. Crap." You don't get bluffed when you are holding a dead hand.

01-31-2023, 08:18 PM	#3
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,834 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Payton goes to the Broncos! Originally Posted by papz Saints deal Sean Payton to the Denver Broncos for a 7th round pick. That’s what the headline would be if the Saints had no to little leverage. Let that resonate with you over time and one of these days, you’ll get it. We got bluffed IMO. It’s not a horrible deal, but we did not extract maximum value in fear of getting nothing back in return. Agree. I wish we were able to get a bit more from Denver. But I'm sure the time frame to consummate the deal was very tight and it's far from a normal trade situation. And with whispers of the whole Harbaugh thing, Denver may have had extra leverage we were not privy to.

01-31-2023, 06:46 PM	#4
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,989	Re: Payton goes to the Broncos! Oh Boy, well good for him. QB in the first round or what? SmashMouth and OldMaid like this.

02-06-2023, 03:50 PM	#5
OldMaid Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,919 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Payton goes to the Broncos! Originally Posted by QBREES9 Oh Boy, well good for him. QB in the first round or what? And a coaching staff. It is a lot of pieces going on. SeanPis taking his staff with him, of course. That is how it usually works.

02-06-2023, 03:57 PM	#6
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,797 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Payton goes to the Broncos! Originally Posted by OldMaid And a coaching staff. It is a lot of pieces going on. SeanPis taking his staff with him, of course. That is how it usually works. What's exactly the hold up on Pete Carmichael then ?

02-06-2023, 04:14 PM	#7
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,133	Re: Payton goes to the Broncos! Originally Posted by K Major What's exactly the hold up on Pete Carmichael then ? Maybe Sean Payton realizes that he has better options available. SmashMouth and K Major like this.

02-06-2023, 04:19 PM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,573	Re: Payton goes to the Broncos! Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Maybe Sean Payton realizes that he has better options available. Let's not forget that the Saints could deny access on any lateral coaching move. Then again, they could always offer us compensation like the 3rd rounder they got from us in the Payton rights trade. But we should hold out for two 1st's.

02-06-2023, 04:22 PM	#9
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,797 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Payton goes to the Broncos! Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Maybe Sean Payton realizes that he has better options available. Lol, of course. Rugby Saint II and The Meat Guy like this.

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OldMaid Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,919 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Payton goes to the Broncos! Originally Posted by K Major What's exactly the hold up on Pete Carmichael then ? Is he going to stay or go to DenBronc or elsewhere? No answer yet. Again,I hope this piece is all settled quickly too. No drama ,rumors of who is the HC , staff of Saints, contracts, etc. Go , then be gone. If whoever wants to leave, then go. ASAP. jnormand, AsylumGuido and Rugby Saint II like this.