Report: Saints part ways with Kris Richard

AsylumGuido · 02-02-2023, 10:22 AM

Our 7-10 record and 22nd rated offense had just as much to do with fielding a backup QB all season behind a makeshift offensive line as it did the playcalling of the offensive coordinator. Sure, Carmichael deserves some blame, but not all of it. There's few coordinators in the league that could have won with what we had to deal with personnel wise this past season.

Let's also not forget that SIX of our loses came against eventual playoff teams. Those are games you are supposed to lose when fielding backups in key positions.

K Major · 02-02-2023, 10:32 AM

Dallas will probably call (lots of coaching vacancies) on Kris to work in some capacity. Maybe even with SP in Denver.

Most of us know how well Dan Quinn can assemble a defense (see Seattle and Dallas).

I wish Kris all the best.

halloween 65 · 02-02-2023, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Our 7-10 record and 22nd rated offense had just as much to do with fielding a backup QB all season behind a makeshift offensive line as it did the playcalling of the offensive coordinator. Sure, Carmichael deserves some blame, but not all of it. There's few coordinators in the league that could have won with what we had to deal with personnel wise this past season.

Let's also not forget that SIX of our loses came against eventual playoff teams. Those are games you are supposed to lose when fielding backups in key positions.

Great point you made here Guido. No quality depth9 (maybe because of lack of draft picks), better OC's out there could have called better games and playoff teams beat us 6 times. Don't know about you but that statement alone says we're not close to competing. Oh I'll add our DC's have bailed and Allen only let a RB coach go ( that's a sign of good leadership) I'm curious who really wants to come to a sinking ship under Allen watch. They are going to be hard up for a job to work under this clown.

AsylumGuido · 02-02-2023, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Great point you made here Guido. No quality depth9 (maybe because of lack of draft picks), better OC's out there could have called better games and playoff teams beat us 6 times. Don't know about you but that statement alone says we're not close to competing. Oh I'll add our DC's have bailed and Allen only let a RB coach go ( that's a sign of good leadership) I'm curious who really wants to come to a sinking ship under Allen watch. They are going to be hard up for a job to work under this clown.

20-0 Baby!

AsylumGuido · 02-02-2023, 11:07 AM

My guess is that Richard's and Allen's philosophical differences may have involved defensive playcalling duties. We all know Allen doesn't want to give them up, nor would I want him to. This hire would make that less of an issue.

AsylumGuido · 02-02-2023, 11:08 AM

AsylumGuido · 02-02-2023, 12:05 PM

SmashMouth · 02-02-2023, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Our 7-10 record and 22nd rated offense had just as much to do with fielding a backup QB all season behind a makeshift offensive line as it did the playcalling of the offensive coordinator. Sure, Carmichael deserves some blame, but not all of it. There's few coordinators in the league that could have won with what we had to deal with personnel wise this past season.

Let's also not forget that SIX of our loses came against eventual playoff teams. Those are games you are supposed to lose when fielding backups in key positions.

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Great point you made here Guido. No quality depth9 (maybe because of lack of draft picks), better OC's out there could have called better games and playoff teams beat us 6 times. Don't know about you but that statement alone says we're not close to competing. Oh I'll add our DC's have bailed and Allen only let a RB coach go ( that's a sign of good leadership) I'm curious who really wants to come to a sinking ship under Allen watch. They are going to be hard up for a job to work under this clown.

OTOH, the flip side of that could also be argued. Just how many of our wins could have been losses... all except one or two maybe? We're not that far off from a 3 win season... just has to be next year to reap the proper benefits. We have to purge and clean up our cap and infuse real good young talent on rookie contracts.

If we're going to suck, might as well suck and not be way over the cap. It's time to clean up the CC.

SaintsBro · 02-02-2023, 12:15 PM

Oh great, Allen is bringing in coaches from his Raiders days, we are now building the 2014 Raiders here. Gotta love that.

AsylumGuido · 02-02-2023, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

OTOH, the flip side of that could also be argued. Just how many of our wins could have been losses... all except one or two maybe? We're not that far off from a 3 win season... just has to be next year to reap the proper benefits. We have to purge and clean up our cap and infuse real good young talent on rookie contracts.

If we're going to suck, might as well suck and not be way over the cap. It's time to clean up the CC.

You are assuming we are going to suck. Nobody knows that without some sort of crystal ball. I would prefer we not suck as opposed to wishing we would. Not saying you, Smash, are among those wanting us to suck, but they are out there.

Oh, and by the way, I counted only two of our wins that were close (less than 7 points) and they were both to the Falcons. Four of our losses were four points or less. Almost all of that with a backup QB.

02-02-2023, 10:22 AM	#11
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: Report: Saints part ways with Kris Richard Our 7-10 record and 22nd rated offense had just as much to do with fielding a backup QB all season behind a makeshift offensive line as it did the playcalling of the offensive coordinator. Sure, Carmichael deserves some blame, but not all of it. There's few coordinators in the league that could have won with what we had to deal with personnel wise this past season. Let's also not forget that SIX of our loses came against eventual playoff teams. Those are games you are supposed to lose when fielding backups in key positions.

02-02-2023, 10:32 AM	#12
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,063 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Report: Saints part ways with Kris Richard Dallas will probably call (lots of coaching vacancies) on Kris to work in some capacity. Maybe even with SP in Denver. Most of us know how well Dan Quinn can assemble a defense (see Seattle and Dallas). I wish Kris all the best.

02-02-2023, 10:41 AM	#13
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Report: Saints part ways with Kris Richard Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Our 7-10 record and 22nd rated offense had just as much to do with fielding a backup QB all season behind a makeshift offensive line as it did the playcalling of the offensive coordinator. Sure, Carmichael deserves some blame, but not all of it. There's few coordinators in the league that could have won with what we had to deal with personnel wise this past season. Let's also not forget that SIX of our loses came against eventual playoff teams. Those are games you are supposed to lose when fielding backups in key positions. Great point you made here Guido. No quality depth9 (maybe because of lack of draft picks), better OC's out there could have called better games and playoff teams beat us 6 times. Don't know about you but that statement alone says we're not close to competing. Oh I'll add our DC's have bailed and Allen only let a RB coach go ( that's a sign of good leadership) I'm curious who really wants to come to a sinking ship under Allen watch. They are going to be hard up for a job to work under this clown. Rugby Saint II likes this.

02-02-2023, 11:00 AM	#14
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: Report: Saints part ways with Kris Richard Originally Posted by halloween 65 Great point you made here Guido. No quality depth9 (maybe because of lack of draft picks), better OC's out there could have called better games and playoff teams beat us 6 times. Don't know about you but that statement alone says we're not close to competing. Oh I'll add our DC's have bailed and Allen only let a RB coach go ( that's a sign of good leadership) I'm curious who really wants to come to a sinking ship under Allen watch. They are going to be hard up for a job to work under this clown. 20-0 Baby!

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 37,077 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Report: Saints part ways with Kris Richard Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Our 7-10 record and 22nd rated offense had just as much to do with fielding a backup QB all season behind a makeshift offensive line as it did the playcalling of the offensive coordinator. Sure, Carmichael deserves some blame, but not all of it. There's few coordinators in the league that could have won with what we had to deal with personnel wise this past season. Let's also not forget that SIX of our loses came against eventual playoff teams. Those are games you are supposed to lose when fielding backups in key positions. Originally Posted by halloween 65 Great point you made here Guido. No quality depth9 (maybe because of lack of draft picks), better OC's out there could have called better games and playoff teams beat us 6 times. Don't know about you but that statement alone says we're not close to competing. Oh I'll add our DC's have bailed and Allen only let a RB coach go ( that's a sign of good leadership) I'm curious who really wants to come to a sinking ship under Allen watch. They are going to be hard up for a job to work under this clown. OTOH, the flip side of that could also be argued. Just how many of our wins could have been losses... all except one or two maybe? We're not that far off from a 3 win season... just has to be next year to reap the proper benefits. We have to purge and clean up our cap and infuse real good young talent on rookie contracts. If we're going to suck, might as well suck and not be way over the cap. It's time to clean up the CC. jnormand and halloween 65 like this.

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SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Report: Saints part ways with Kris Richard Oh great, Allen is bringing in coaches from his Raiders days, we are now building the 2014 Raiders here. Gotta love that. halloween 65 and K Major like this.