Do You Agree With RG ?

AsylumGuido · 02-09-2023, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I'm a rugby referee and appreciate how a good referee controls the game. Bad refereeing is costing this game any respect it may have had in the past. Well, that and Rodger Goodell running the show.

I really don't think the officiating as any worse than it's ever been. The problem is that with replays, multiple camera angles, and remarkable video quality we are seeing more of those bad calls and non-calls than ever before.

vpheughan · 02-09-2023, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I really don't think the officiating as any worse than it's ever been. The problem is that with replays, multiple camera angles, and remarkable video quality we are seeing more of those bad calls and non-calls than ever before.

The XFL & AAFL "SKY JUDGE" seemed to fix all of those problems, almost instant calls. Raises the question WHY doesn't the "most popular form of ENTERTAINMENT' implement the same system? Is it that the ENTERTAINMENT portion of SPORTS/ENTERTAINMENT may become more SPORTS oriented?

AsylumGuido · 02-09-2023, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by vpheughan

The XFL & AAFL "SKY JUDGE" seemed to fix all of those problems, almost instant calls. Raises the question WHY doesn't the "most popular form of ENTERTAINMENT' implement the same system? Is it that the ENTERTAINMENT portion of SPORTS/ENTERTAINMENT may become more SPORTS oriented?

Support is growing for the "sky judge" type addition for the very reason that you point out, the entertainment value. That value is being attacked over the bad calls and non-calls. If it was for the "sport" alone it would never be addressed.

vpheughan · 02-09-2023, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Support is growing for the "sky judge" type addition for the very reason that you point out, the entertainment value. That value is being attacked over the bad calls and non-calls. If it was for the "sport" alone it would never be addressed.

I brought up that the "SKY JUDGE" would push the SPORTS side more into the forefront by taking away the "power" of the field officials. The viewer sees what the SKY JUDGE sees.

Why the call for full time officials? If as you say "If it was for the "sport" alone it would never be addressed." Sounds like the line from North Dallas Fourty" to me.........."Every time I call it a business (ENTERTAINMENT), you call it a game!(SPORTS) And every time I call it a game,(SPORTS) you call it a business!(ENTERTAINMENT)"

Full time officials could control the "ENTERTAINMENT SIDE" AKA "SCRIPTED" much better, couldn't they?

AsylumGuido · 02-09-2023, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by vpheughan

I brought up that the "SKY JUDGE" would push the SPORTS side more into the forefront by taking away the "power" of the field officials. The viewer sees what the SKY JUDGE sees.

Why the call for full time officials? If as you say "If it was for the "sport" alone it would never be addressed." Sounds like the line from North Dallas Fourty" to me.........."Every time I call it a business (ENTERTAINMENT), you call it a game!(SPORTS) And every time I call it a game,(SPORTS) you call it a business!(ENTERTAINMENT)"

Full time officials could control the "ENTERTAINMENT SIDE" AKA "SCRIPTED" much better, couldn't they?

Off the meds again?

vpheughan · 02-10-2023, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Off the meds again?

Predictable as 20 - 0 Baby!!

turbo_dog · 02-10-2023, 08:39 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I really don't think the officiating as any worse than it's ever been. The problem is that with replays, multiple camera angles, and remarkable video quality we are seeing more of those bad calls and non-calls than ever before.

If we can see the remarkable video and camera angles, why can't they see them and correct the calls?

AsylumGuido · 02-10-2023, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by turbo_dog

If we can see the remarkable video and camera angles, why can't they see them and correct the calls?

And thus the growing demand for the "eye in the sky" and/or expanded challenges. It's only a matter of time from what I have heard and read. I believe that pushback may be coming from the broadcasters in that it could feasibly lengthen the game by a tad. I suppose that could create some programming issues.

02-09-2023, 02:04 PM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,760	Re: Do You Agree With RG ? Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I'm a rugby referee and appreciate how a good referee controls the game. Bad refereeing is costing this game any respect it may have had in the past. Well, that and Rodger Goodell running the show. I really don't think the officiating as any worse than it's ever been. The problem is that with replays, multiple camera angles, and remarkable video quality we are seeing more of those bad calls and non-calls than ever before.

02-09-2023, 05:55 PM	#2
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,558	Re: Do You Agree With RG ? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I really don't think the officiating as any worse than it's ever been. The problem is that with replays, multiple camera angles, and remarkable video quality we are seeing more of those bad calls and non-calls than ever before. The XFL & AAFL "SKY JUDGE" seemed to fix all of those problems, almost instant calls. Raises the question WHY doesn't the "most popular form of ENTERTAINMENT' implement the same system? Is it that the ENTERTAINMENT portion of SPORTS/ENTERTAINMENT may become more SPORTS oriented? Rugby Saint II likes this.
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02-09-2023, 06:00 PM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,760	Re: Do You Agree With RG ? Originally Posted by vpheughan The XFL & AAFL "SKY JUDGE" seemed to fix all of those problems, almost instant calls. Raises the question WHY doesn't the "most popular form of ENTERTAINMENT' implement the same system? Is it that the ENTERTAINMENT portion of SPORTS/ENTERTAINMENT may become more SPORTS oriented? Support is growing for the "sky judge" type addition for the very reason that you point out, the entertainment value. That value is being attacked over the bad calls and non-calls. If it was for the "sport" alone it would never be addressed. Rugby Saint II likes this.

02-09-2023, 06:16 PM	#4
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,558	Re: Do You Agree With RG ? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Support is growing for the "sky judge" type addition for the very reason that you point out, the entertainment value. That value is being attacked over the bad calls and non-calls. If it was for the "sport" alone it would never be addressed. I brought up that the "SKY JUDGE" would push the SPORTS side more into the forefront by taking away the "power" of the field officials. The viewer sees what the SKY JUDGE sees. Why the call for full time officials? If as you say "If it was for the "sport" alone it would never be addressed." Sounds like the line from North Dallas Fourty" to me.........."Every time I call it a business (ENTERTAINMENT), you call it a game!(SPORTS) And every time I call it a game,(SPORTS) you call it a business!(ENTERTAINMENT)" Full time officials could control the "ENTERTAINMENT SIDE" AKA "SCRIPTED" much better, couldn't they? iceshack149 likes this.
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02-09-2023, 06:27 PM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,760	Re: Do You Agree With RG ? Originally Posted by vpheughan I brought up that the "SKY JUDGE" would push the SPORTS side more into the forefront by taking away the "power" of the field officials. The viewer sees what the SKY JUDGE sees. Why the call for full time officials? If as you say "If it was for the "sport" alone it would never be addressed." Sounds like the line from North Dallas Fourty" to me.........."Every time I call it a business (ENTERTAINMENT), you call it a game!(SPORTS) And every time I call it a game,(SPORTS) you call it a business!(ENTERTAINMENT)" Full time officials could control the "ENTERTAINMENT SIDE" AKA "SCRIPTED" much better, couldn't they? Off the meds again?

02-10-2023, 03:24 PM	#6
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,558	Re: Do You Agree With RG ? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Off the meds again? Predictable as 20 - 0 Baby!! K Major likes this.
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02-10-2023, 08:39 AM	#7
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,708	Re: Do You Agree With RG ? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I really don't think the officiating as any worse than it's ever been. The problem is that with replays, multiple camera angles, and remarkable video quality we are seeing more of those bad calls and non-calls than ever before. If we can see the remarkable video and camera angles, why can't they see them and correct the calls? AsylumGuido and SmashMouth like this.

02-10-2023, 08:52 AM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,760	Re: Do You Agree With RG ? Originally Posted by turbo_dog If we can see the remarkable video and camera angles, why can't they see them and correct the calls? And thus the growing demand for the "eye in the sky" and/or expanded challenges. It's only a matter of time from what I have heard and read. I believe that pushback may be coming from the broadcasters in that it could feasibly lengthen the game by a tad. I suppose that could create some programming issues.