Saints Likely To Trade 2024 1st Round Pick

Boston Saint · 04-06-2023, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I've heard it was entirely the decision of his agent, Drew Rosenhaus. Rosenhaus is one of the very best agents in the business. It was suggested it would serve a dual purpose. One, it could weed out teams that were simply curious, but not serious, which would be a waste of time. Two, it could bring to light teams that are considering moving into the top 10. Those teams not currently in the top 10 can still approach Rosenhaus with the idea that they may make a move if they can.

If so, that’s stupid.

AsylumGuido · 04-06-2023, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

If so, that’s stupid.

The person that I heard that from said that he trusts Rosenhaus knows exactly what he's doing. It was an ex-GM. I know that. Maybe Mark Dominik. He stressed the fact that they likely didn't want to waste the time and effort travelling to teams that were not serious when he could be working out and getting prepared instead. Don't forget that he bombed his pro day and truly interested teams may want to see something more.

We'll see. If he goes in the top ten then he was right. I've seen mocks that still have him going as high as #5.

Boston Saint · 04-06-2023, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

The person that I heard that from said that he trusts Rosenhaus knows exactly what he's doing. It was an ex-GM. I know that. Maybe Mark Dominik. He stressed the fact that they likely didn't want to waste the time and effort travelling to teams that were not serious when he could be working out and getting prepared instead. Don't forget that he bombed his pro day and truly interested teams may want to see something more.

We'll see. If he goes in the top ten then he was right. I've seen mocks that still have him going as high as #5.

Him going in the top ten won’t prove him right.

AsylumGuido · 04-06-2023, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Him going in the top ten won’t prove him right.

Perhaps. Perhaps not. From his perspective he believes it is the the most prudent approach. I've personally never represented a professional athlete so I couldn't say for sure. According to Wikipedia he represents over 170 professional athletes and over 100 in the NFL alone. I would personally tend to trust his opinion. But that's just me.

Boston Saint · 04-06-2023, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Perhaps. Perhaps not. From his perspective he believes it is the the most prudent approach. I've personally never represented a professional athlete so I couldn't say for sure. According to Wikipedia he represents over 170 professional athletes and over 100 in the NFL alone. I would personally tend to trust his opinion. But that's just me.

The old appeal to authority logical fallacy.

The only apparent advantage is to save time and effort. It’s bad optics from a wealthy (or soon to be) a-hole who doesn’t care about optics. Solid franchises like Pitt and NE are in the teens and maybe considering a move up to get him….but not now. Maybe a team/gm NOT in the top ten now would be interested in signing him to his NEXT big contract but will hold this against him/agent. Just my opinion of course.

AsylumGuido · 04-06-2023, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

The old appeal to authority logical fallacy.

The only apparent advantage is to save time and effort. It’s bad optics from a wealthy (or soon to be) a-hole who doesn’t care about optics. Solid franchises like Pitt and NE are in the teens and maybe considering a move up to get him….but not now. Maybe a team/gm NOT in the top ten now would be interested in signing him to his NEXT big contract but will hold this against him/agent. Just my opinion of course.

Any team that is truly interested in moving up is not precluded from contacting Rosenhaus for a meeting. Don't forget, this is a business. No GM is going to be childish enough to hold it against Rosenhaus. They're more likely to joke about it the next time they play golf together.

Boston Saint · 04-06-2023, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Any team that is truly interested in moving up is not precluded from contacting Rosenhaus for a meeting. Don't forget, this is a business. No GM is going to be childish enough to hold it against Rosenhaus. They're more likely to joke about it the next time they play golf together.

If they aren’t precluded from contacting them for a meeting then putting out the information is a meaningless waste of time. And egos are big in the NFL. I fully believe there are organizations that will put this as a red mark against him.

I’m not gonna argue about it with you. Riaton made a comment and I agree with it. It’s a bad look to offer a blanket denial for interviews. It speaks of entitlement (especially from a rookie) and that’s not what I think is good in a locker room. If you disagree because he has an agent you admire good for you. I haven’t heard of many other guaranteed top pics doing this.

04-06-2023, 01:21 PM	#1
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Saints Likely To Trade 2024 1st Round Pick Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I've heard it was entirely the decision of his agent, Drew Rosenhaus. Rosenhaus is one of the very best agents in the business. It was suggested it would serve a dual purpose. One, it could weed out teams that were simply curious, but not serious, which would be a waste of time. Two, it could bring to light teams that are considering moving into the top 10. Those teams not currently in the top 10 can still approach Rosenhaus with the idea that they may make a move if they can. If so, that’s stupid.

04-06-2023, 01:37 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,853	Re: Saints Likely To Trade 2024 1st Round Pick Originally Posted by Boston Saint If so, that’s stupid. The person that I heard that from said that he trusts Rosenhaus knows exactly what he's doing. It was an ex-GM. I know that. Maybe Mark Dominik. He stressed the fact that they likely didn't want to waste the time and effort travelling to teams that were not serious when he could be working out and getting prepared instead. Don't forget that he bombed his pro day and truly interested teams may want to see something more. We'll see. If he goes in the top ten then he was right. I've seen mocks that still have him going as high as #5.
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04-06-2023, 01:45 PM	#3
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Saints Likely To Trade 2024 1st Round Pick Originally Posted by AsylumGuido The person that I heard that from said that he trusts Rosenhaus knows exactly what he's doing. It was an ex-GM. I know that. Maybe Mark Dominik. He stressed the fact that they likely didn't want to waste the time and effort travelling to teams that were not serious when he could be working out and getting prepared instead. Don't forget that he bombed his pro day and truly interested teams may want to see something more. We'll see. If he goes in the top ten then he was right. I've seen mocks that still have him going as high as #5. Him going in the top ten won’t prove him right.

04-06-2023, 01:57 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,853	Re: Saints Likely To Trade 2024 1st Round Pick Originally Posted by Boston Saint Him going in the top ten won’t prove him right. Perhaps. Perhaps not. From his perspective he believes it is the the most prudent approach. I've personally never represented a professional athlete so I couldn't say for sure. According to Wikipedia he represents over 170 professional athletes and over 100 in the NFL alone. I would personally tend to trust his opinion. But that's just me.

04-06-2023, 02:25 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,853	Re: Saints Likely To Trade 2024 1st Round Pick Originally Posted by Boston Saint The old appeal to authority logical fallacy. The only apparent advantage is to save time and effort. It’s bad optics from a wealthy (or soon to be) a-hole who doesn’t care about optics. Solid franchises like Pitt and NE are in the teens and maybe considering a move up to get him….but not now. Maybe a team/gm NOT in the top ten now would be interested in signing him to his NEXT big contract but will hold this against him/agent. Just my opinion of course. Any team that is truly interested in moving up is not precluded from contacting Rosenhaus for a meeting. Don't forget, this is a business. No GM is going to be childish enough to hold it against Rosenhaus. They're more likely to joke about it the next time they play golf together.

04-06-2023, 02:14 PM	#5
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Saints Likely To Trade 2024 1st Round Pick Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Perhaps. Perhaps not. From his perspective he believes it is the the most prudent approach. I've personally never represented a professional athlete so I couldn't say for sure. According to Wikipedia he represents over 170 professional athletes and over 100 in the NFL alone. I would personally tend to trust his opinion. But that's just me. The old appeal to authority logical fallacy. The only apparent advantage is to save time and effort. It’s bad optics from a wealthy (or soon to be) a-hole who doesn’t care about optics. Solid franchises like Pitt and NE are in the teens and maybe considering a move up to get him….but not now. Maybe a team/gm NOT in the top ten now would be interested in signing him to his NEXT big contract but will hold this against him/agent. Just my opinion of course.

04-06-2023, 02:40 PM	#7
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Saints Likely To Trade 2024 1st Round Pick Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Any team that is truly interested in moving up is not precluded from contacting Rosenhaus for a meeting. Don't forget, this is a business. No GM is going to be childish enough to hold it against Rosenhaus. They're more likely to joke about it the next time they play golf together. If they aren’t precluded from contacting them for a meeting then putting out the information is a meaningless waste of time. And egos are big in the NFL. I fully believe there are organizations that will put this as a red mark against him. I’m not gonna argue about it with you. Riaton made a comment and I agree with it. It’s a bad look to offer a blanket denial for interviews. It speaks of entitlement (especially from a rookie) and that’s not what I think is good in a locker room. If you disagree because he has an agent you admire good for you. I haven’t heard of many other guaranteed top pics doing this.
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