Beast Saints Team

SmashMouth · 04-21-2023, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Bounced around the league (QB coach) for years but he's an assistant HC with Seattle as of now.

And Hazlett is coaching an XFL/USFL team now. At least Carl is still in the league. If he did help Geno Smith in Seattle, maybe he's not so bad after all.

K Major · 04-21-2023, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

So Mr QB Choke in crucial moments had nothing to do with this?

I wonder why he won't talk about it much since he's on the radio now covering the very team he used to play for?

Right.

And he's been so critical of QBs (even Brees) in NOLA over the years.

Forget "Cajun Cannon", I prefer "Mr. Choke" as well

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Aikman has a radio show up here & he quite often mentions players & teams he hated playing. Giants (Lawrence Taylor & Co) & of course the Saint's entire LB core & swarming secondary.

Too bad Bobby Hebert never had that killer instinct in the postseason @ QB because the defense was legit.

BakoSaint · 04-22-2023, 01:33 PM

I would say the best Saints team was the one that beat 3 HOF QBs in Kurt Warner, Brett Favre, and Peyton Manning to win the Super Bowl, not the other good teams that were eliminated from the playoffs by the likes of Alex Smith or Jared Goff + Refs. The 2nd best Saints team was eliminated by Jared Goff + Refs but the 2009 team would not have let it be so close against a middle of the road QB and obviously had a more prime Brees. The 2011 team was all finesse and not ideally suited for playoff slugfests. Sometimes finesse teams win it all but a slugfest with SF was not good for us.

Rugby Saint II · 04-23-2023, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

I would say the best Saints team was the one that beat 3 HOF QBs in Kurt Warner, Brett Favre, and Peyton Manning to win the Super Bowl, not the other good teams that were eliminated from the playoffs by the likes of Alex Smith or Jared Goff + Refs. The 2nd best Saints team was eliminated by Jared Goff + Refs but the 2009 team would not have let it be so close against a middle of the road QB and obviously had a more prime Brees. The 2011 team was all finesse and not ideally suited for playoff slugfests. Sometimes finesse teams win it all but a slugfest with SF was not good for us.

We need a better mix of smash mouth football and finesse to win championships. Payton played smash mouth football in the trenches and was successful though.

Boston Saint · 04-23-2023, 05:47 PM

“ I would say the best Saints team was the one that beat 3 HOF QBs in Kurt Warner, Brett Favre, and Peyton Manning to win the Super Bowl, not the other good teams that were eliminated from the playoffs by the likes of Alex Smith or Jared Goff + Refs. The 2nd best Saints team was eliminated by Jared Goff + Refs but the 2009 team would not have let it be so close against a middle of the road QB and obviously had a more prime Brees. The 2011 team was all finesse and not ideally suited for playoff slugfests. Sometimes finesse teams win it all but a slugfest with SF was not good for us.”

With all due respect to the Super Bowl championship team, and your opinion bako, I believe you are over playing the Hall of Fame angle from that season with respect to the playoffs. Kurt Warner was a shadow of his former self, and his team was 10 and 5 in 2018. The Jeff goff-lead Rams were 13 -3 and by most measurable statistics he had a much better year in 2018 than Kurt Warner did in 2009. I’m not trying to be argumentative, but you’re blowing off the impact that the refs had on the playoff game is incorrect in my opinion. If the Saints don’t get that call against them, they win their second Super Bowl and their legacy changes. Just my opinion of course. I think the 2018 team would have beat the 2009 team.

SmashMouth · 04-23-2023, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

I would say the best Saints team was the one that beat 3 HOF QBs in Kurt Warner, Brett Favre, and Peyton Manning to win the Super Bowl, not the other good teams that were eliminated from the playoffs by the likes of Alex Smith or Jared Goff + Refs. The 2nd best Saints team was eliminated by Jared Goff + Refs but the 2009 team would not have let it be so close against a middle of the road QB and obviously had a more prime Brees. The 2011 team was all finesse and not ideally suited for playoff slugfests. Sometimes finesse teams win it all but a slugfest with SF was not good for us.

And Kurt Warner is still a little salty with regards to Saints.

iceshack149 · 04-24-2023, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

And Kurt Warner is still a little salty with regards to Saints.

I would be as well. The hit was clean because the QB is just another player on the field after he throws an interception.
Man... He got wrecked.

SmashMouth · 04-24-2023, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

Worth a new topic.
What do you think?
Poll forthcoming?

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Out of these 4, which was the best Saints team?

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BTW... I was wondering what the difference was between the beast Saints team and the best Saints team?

iceshack149 · 04-24-2023, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

BTW... I was wondering what the difference was between the beast Saints team and the best Saints team?

I tried to fix the title but I caught the mistake too late. At least it isn't Breast Saints Team.

AsylumGuido · 04-24-2023, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

I tried to fix the title but I caught the mistake too late. At least it isn't Breast Saints Team.

Did someone mention Breast Saints Team?

04-21-2023, 12:11 PM	#21
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 37,060 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Beast Saints Team Originally Posted by K Major Bounced around the league (QB coach) for years but he's an assistant HC with Seattle as of now. And Hazlett is coaching an XFL/USFL team now. At least Carl is still in the league. If he did help Geno Smith in Seattle, maybe he's not so bad after all. iceshack149 likes this.

04-21-2023, 12:23 PM	#22
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,059 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Beast Saints Team Originally Posted by SmashMouth So Mr QB Choke in crucial moments had nothing to do with this? I wonder why he won't talk about it much since he's on the radio now covering the very team he used to play for? Right. And he's been so critical of QBs (even Brees) in NOLA over the years. Forget "Cajun Cannon", I prefer "Mr. Choke" as well . Aikman has a radio show up here & he quite often mentions players & teams he hated playing. Giants (Lawrence Taylor & Co) & of course the Saint's entire LB core & swarming secondary. Too bad Bobby Hebert never had that killer instinct in the postseason @ QB because the defense was legit. iceshack149, SmashMouth and rezburna like this.

04-22-2023, 01:33 PM	#23
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 1,765	Re: Beast Saints Team I would say the best Saints team was the one that beat 3 HOF QBs in Kurt Warner, Brett Favre, and Peyton Manning to win the Super Bowl, not the other good teams that were eliminated from the playoffs by the likes of Alex Smith or Jared Goff + Refs. The 2nd best Saints team was eliminated by Jared Goff + Refs but the 2009 team would not have let it be so close against a middle of the road QB and obviously had a more prime Brees. The 2011 team was all finesse and not ideally suited for playoff slugfests. Sometimes finesse teams win it all but a slugfest with SF was not good for us. iceshack149 and Rugby Saint II like this.
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04-23-2023, 01:50 PM	#24
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,760	Re: Beast Saints Team Originally Posted by BakoSaint I would say the best Saints team was the one that beat 3 HOF QBs in Kurt Warner, Brett Favre, and Peyton Manning to win the Super Bowl, not the other good teams that were eliminated from the playoffs by the likes of Alex Smith or Jared Goff + Refs. The 2nd best Saints team was eliminated by Jared Goff + Refs but the 2009 team would not have let it be so close against a middle of the road QB and obviously had a more prime Brees. The 2011 team was all finesse and not ideally suited for playoff slugfests. Sometimes finesse teams win it all but a slugfest with SF was not good for us. We need a better mix of smash mouth football and finesse to win championships. Payton played smash mouth football in the trenches and was successful though.

04-23-2023, 05:47 PM	#25
Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,876	Re: Beast Saints Team “ I would say the best Saints team was the one that beat 3 HOF QBs in Kurt Warner, Brett Favre, and Peyton Manning to win the Super Bowl, not the other good teams that were eliminated from the playoffs by the likes of Alex Smith or Jared Goff + Refs. The 2nd best Saints team was eliminated by Jared Goff + Refs but the 2009 team would not have let it be so close against a middle of the road QB and obviously had a more prime Brees. The 2011 team was all finesse and not ideally suited for playoff slugfests. Sometimes finesse teams win it all but a slugfest with SF was not good for us.” With all due respect to the Super Bowl championship team, and your opinion bako, I believe you are over playing the Hall of Fame angle from that season with respect to the playoffs. Kurt Warner was a shadow of his former self, and his team was 10 and 5 in 2018. The Jeff goff-lead Rams were 13 -3 and by most measurable statistics he had a much better year in 2018 than Kurt Warner did in 2009. I’m not trying to be argumentative, but you’re blowing off the impact that the refs had on the playoff game is incorrect in my opinion. If the Saints don’t get that call against them, they win their second Super Bowl and their legacy changes. Just my opinion of course. I think the 2018 team would have beat the 2009 team.
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04-23-2023, 06:14 PM	#26
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 37,060 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Beast Saints Team Originally Posted by BakoSaint I would say the best Saints team was the one that beat 3 HOF QBs in Kurt Warner, Brett Favre, and Peyton Manning to win the Super Bowl, not the other good teams that were eliminated from the playoffs by the likes of Alex Smith or Jared Goff + Refs. The 2nd best Saints team was eliminated by Jared Goff + Refs but the 2009 team would not have let it be so close against a middle of the road QB and obviously had a more prime Brees. The 2011 team was all finesse and not ideally suited for playoff slugfests. Sometimes finesse teams win it all but a slugfest with SF was not good for us. And Kurt Warner is still a little salty with regards to Saints. Rugby Saint II likes this.

04-24-2023, 09:22 AM	#27
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,093 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Beast Saints Team Originally Posted by SmashMouth And Kurt Warner is still a little salty with regards to Saints. I would be as well. The hit was clean because the QB is just another player on the field after he throws an interception. Man... He got wrecked. SmashMouth and K Major like this.

04-24-2023, 10:36 AM	#28
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 37,060 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Beast Saints Team Originally Posted by iceshack149 Worth a new topic. What do you think? Poll forthcoming? Boot Krewe Media @BootKreweMedia Out of these 4, which was the best Saints team? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FuFdaTGW...jpg&name=large BTW... I was wondering what the difference was between the beast Saints team and the best Saints team? iceshack149 likes this.

04-24-2023, 10:57 AM	#29
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,093 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Beast Saints Team Originally Posted by SmashMouth BTW... I was wondering what the difference was between the beast Saints team and the best Saints team? I tried to fix the title but I caught the mistake too late. At least it isn't Breast Saints Team. AsylumGuido, SmashMouth and Rugby Saint II like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: Beast Saints Team Originally Posted by iceshack149 I tried to fix the title but I caught the mistake too late. At least it isn't Breast Saints Team. Did someone mention Breast Saints Team? SmashMouth and Rugby Saint II like this.