Grade our draft

papz · 04-30-2023, 06:56 AM

How do you think we did? What would you have liked for us to do differently?

neugey · 04-30-2023, 07:29 AM

B. It would have been an 'A' but the pick of safety Howden pick puzzles me, we don't seem to have room for another safety. It's a Saints thing, I guess. Should have added a second RB here. Deuce Vaughn among other good ones were still available.

And I like the Haener pick, but wish he was our QB2 and Jameis feels redundant now. I mean, there's a good shot he's better than Trask or Ritter who are both in our division and higher on depth charts.

SmashMouth · 04-30-2023, 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by neugey

B. It would have been an 'A' but the pick of safety Howden pick puzzles me, we don't seem to have room for another safety. It's a Saints thing, I guess. Should have added a second RB here. Deuce Vaughn among other good ones were still available.

And I like the Haener pick, but wish he was our QB2 and Jameis feels redundant now. I mean, there's a good shot he's better than Trask or Ritter who are both in our division and higher on depth charts.

Can't get all the players you need in a single draft. S depth is needed... heck even CB and LB. Need a solution at TE. Maybe Krull is better now or Moreau will be coming in. Or they're not through exploring options in the FA or UDFA market for that position. In our offense they'll be able to use the RBs as TEs.

Overall an A draft.

AsylumGuido · 04-30-2023, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by neugey

B. It would have been an 'A' but the pick of safety Howden pick puzzles me, we don't seem to have room for another safety. It's a Saints thing, I guess. Should have added a second RB here. Deuce Vaughn among other good ones were still available.

And I like the Haener pick, but wish he was our QB2 and Jameis feels redundant now. I mean, there's a good shot he's better than Trask or Ritter who are both in our division and higher on depth charts.

You always have at least three QB's on roster. He should be an upgrade to Jake Luton. It makes sense to have Haeden spend a year learning from both Carr and Winston. Or even most of the year. Someone is going to lose a QB sometime during the season and Winston will be great trade bait.

Who would we not have taken for a second RB? We have already signed SaRodorick Thompson, RB, Texas Tech as a UDFA. I don't doubt there will be others.

AsylumGuido · 04-30-2023, 09:19 AM

I can't see downgrading the draft on Haener only because he wouldn't be a starter this year as I have seen elsewhere. No QB taken outside of the top ten should be expected to start year one.

leilung · 04-30-2023, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I can't see downgrading the draft on Haener only because he wouldn't be a starter this year as I have seen elsewhere. No QB taken outside of the top ten should be expected to start year one.

IDK Guido. I'm looking at Hooker, Bennett, and others going off the boards before him and when I see them pick Haener, I get the impression that QB was an after thought for this War Room. If it's not a priority, they could have used that pick for a different (less iffy) position of need. I know that any QB picked in the 2nd Round and beyond is really not supposed to be an immediate impact on the roster, but I'm getting an Ian Book vibe with that pick that's kind of like a place holder.
"In Event of an Emergency, Please Break Glass and Start This Guy"

We'll see though. Like someone who quoted Forrest Gump on anther thread: 'You never know what you're gonna get!'

AsylumGuido · 04-30-2023, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by leilung

IDK Guido. I'm looking at Hooker, Bennett, and others going off the boards before him and when I see them pick Haener, I get the impression that QB was an after thought for this War Room. If it's not a priority, they could have used that pick for a different (less iffy) position of need. I know that any QB picked in the 2nd Round and beyond is really not supposed to be an immediate impact on the roster, but I'm getting an Ian Book vibe with that pick that's kind of like a place holder.
"In Event of an Emergency, Please Break Glass and Start This Guy"

We'll see though. Like someone who quoted Forrest Gump on anther thread: 'You never know what you're gonna get!'

From everything I have heard and read Haener was the target all along. They had done a lot of research on him. He definitely wasn't an afterthought. They were going to get him and they got him at the perfect spot given Bennett went on the next pick and O'Connell a few picks later. And then at the top of the 5th round a run of four more QB's went off the board.

AsylumGuido · 08-27-2023, 08:30 AM

Well, this kind of gives credence to a high draft grade so far. No telling for another couple of years, though, for sure.

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SmashMouth · 08-27-2023, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Well, this kind of gives credence to a high draft grade so far. No telling for another couple of years, though, for sure.

https://twitter.com/TheSaintsWire/st...68200338616559

It had the feeling it might happen. The roster moves prior to the draft, especially the DL, gave us an indication.

Crusader · 08-27-2023, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Well, this kind of gives credence to a high draft grade so far. No telling for another couple of years, though, for sure.

https://twitter.com/TheSaintsWire/st...68200338616559

That would mean quite the youth movement on the team. That is greatly needed.

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04-30-2023, 06:56 AM	#1
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,768	Grade our draft How do you think we did? What would you have liked for us to do differently?

04-30-2023, 07:29 AM	#2
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,819 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Grade our draft B. It would have been an 'A' but the pick of safety Howden pick puzzles me, we don't seem to have room for another safety. It's a Saints thing, I guess. Should have added a second RB here. Deuce Vaughn among other good ones were still available. And I like the Haener pick, but wish he was our QB2 and Jameis feels redundant now. I mean, there's a good shot he's better than Trask or Ritter who are both in our division and higher on depth charts.

04-30-2023, 09:15 AM	#3
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,477 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Grade our draft Originally Posted by neugey B. It would have been an 'A' but the pick of safety Howden pick puzzles me, we don't seem to have room for another safety. It's a Saints thing, I guess. Should have added a second RB here. Deuce Vaughn among other good ones were still available. And I like the Haener pick, but wish he was our QB2 and Jameis feels redundant now. I mean, there's a good shot he's better than Trask or Ritter who are both in our division and higher on depth charts. Can't get all the players you need in a single draft. S depth is needed... heck even CB and LB. Need a solution at TE. Maybe Krull is better now or Moreau will be coming in. Or they're not through exploring options in the FA or UDFA market for that position. In our offense they'll be able to use the RBs as TEs. Overall an A draft. iceshack149 and Rugby Saint II like this.

04-30-2023, 09:17 AM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Grade our draft Originally Posted by neugey B. It would have been an 'A' but the pick of safety Howden pick puzzles me, we don't seem to have room for another safety. It's a Saints thing, I guess. Should have added a second RB here. Deuce Vaughn among other good ones were still available. And I like the Haener pick, but wish he was our QB2 and Jameis feels redundant now. I mean, there's a good shot he's better than Trask or Ritter who are both in our division and higher on depth charts. You always have at least three QB's on roster. He should be an upgrade to Jake Luton. It makes sense to have Haeden spend a year learning from both Carr and Winston. Or even most of the year. Someone is going to lose a QB sometime during the season and Winston will be great trade bait. Who would we not have taken for a second RB? We have already signed SaRodorick Thompson, RB, Texas Tech as a UDFA. I don't doubt there will be others. SmashMouth likes this.

04-30-2023, 09:19 AM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Grade our draft I can't see downgrading the draft on Haener only because he wouldn't be a starter this year as I have seen elsewhere. No QB taken outside of the top ten should be expected to start year one.

04-30-2023, 11:40 AM	#6
leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,419	Re: Grade our draft Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I can't see downgrading the draft on Haener only because he wouldn't be a starter this year as I have seen elsewhere. No QB taken outside of the top ten should be expected to start year one. IDK Guido. I'm looking at Hooker, Bennett, and others going off the boards before him and when I see them pick Haener, I get the impression that QB was an after thought for this War Room. If it's not a priority, they could have used that pick for a different (less iffy) position of need. I know that any QB picked in the 2nd Round and beyond is really not supposed to be an immediate impact on the roster, but I'm getting an Ian Book vibe with that pick that's kind of like a place holder. "In Event of an Emergency, Please Break Glass and Start This Guy" We'll see though. Like someone who quoted Forrest Gump on anther thread: 'You never know what you're gonna get!'
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04-30-2023, 11:55 AM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Grade our draft Originally Posted by leilung IDK Guido. I'm looking at Hooker, Bennett, and others going off the boards before him and when I see them pick Haener, I get the impression that QB was an after thought for this War Room. If it's not a priority, they could have used that pick for a different (less iffy) position of need. I know that any QB picked in the 2nd Round and beyond is really not supposed to be an immediate impact on the roster, but I'm getting an Ian Book vibe with that pick that's kind of like a place holder. "In Event of an Emergency, Please Break Glass and Start This Guy" We'll see though. Like someone who quoted Forrest Gump on anther thread: 'You never know what you're gonna get!' From everything I have heard and read Haener was the target all along. They had done a lot of research on him. He definitely wasn't an afterthought. They were going to get him and they got him at the perfect spot given Bennett went on the next pick and O'Connell a few picks later. And then at the top of the 5th round a run of four more QB's went off the board.

08-27-2023, 08:30 AM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Grade our draft Well, this kind of gives credence to a high draft grade so far. No telling for another couple of years, though, for sure. Twitter Crusader and SmashMouth like this.

08-27-2023, 10:07 AM	#9
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,477 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Grade our draft Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Well, this kind of gives credence to a high draft grade so far. No telling for another couple of years, though, for sure. https://twitter.com/TheSaintsWire/st...68200338616559 It had the feeling it might happen. The roster moves prior to the draft, especially the DL, gave us an indication. Crusader and AsylumGuido like this.

08-27-2023, 10:31 AM	#10
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,030	Re: Grade our draft Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Well, this kind of gives credence to a high draft grade so far. No telling for another couple of years, though, for sure. https://twitter.com/TheSaintsWire/st...68200338616559 That would mean quite the youth movement on the team. That is greatly needed. AsylumGuido, SmashMouth and Rugby Saint II like this.