Will Raiders Trade For Jameis Winston?

leilung · 05-29-2023, 04:16 PM

Injuries have been the wildcard for the last several years with our team. I would hold onto Winston until the season is over. Hill and Haener possibly could step in if Carr gets hurt, but I like our chances of hanging in there better with Jameis as QB. Just my take.

voodooido · 05-30-2023, 01:14 AM

I would take anyone over JW. If we can get anything for him I’ll pack for him

hitta · 05-30-2023, 07:31 AM

Carr is the QB we were looking for. He is much better than anyone realizes. This is a guy you can win Super Bowls with and if you put him in the right position will win Super Bowls. Carr has the potential to get a HoF bust imo, just nobody realizes it quite yet cause he's been in football hell for so long. Quite frankly, it's kind of amazing he performed as he did in Oakland/LV considering the situation there. This season will cement him as the guy and we won't be worried about QBs anymore. I'm telling you... Brees 2.0. He's not the same player in terms of what they actually do, but the way we picked him up off the free-agent market is similar. If we send Winston to the Raiders, and we get resources from that, then the Raiders will have officially got fleeced. If Carr gets hurt, I'd prefer to go with Taysom or something; anything but Winston. I don't think Allen and Carmichael are creative enough to win with a QB like Winston(or some other middle-of-the-road QB) like Payton was(this does not mean I don't think that we can win with Allen or Carmichael though). Allen is hyper-logical in how he approaches football, he's definitely not bad. He's just not as good as Payton. Payton just had a wisdom about him that we don't have on our coaching staff anymore. It's like he knew what to do often at the right time. I really miss having that. Allen is more like playing the odds.

MatthewT · 05-30-2023, 08:18 AM

If Winston is dealt, I don't see the Saints getting more than a 7th round pick for him, or maybe a reserve player that has a 50/50 chance at making the roster. If he is dealt, I would imagine the Saints would probably reach out to Chase Daniel or Teddy Bridgewater to fill the primary backup role.

hitta · 05-30-2023, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

If Winston is dealt, I don't see the Saints getting more than a 7th round pick for him, or maybe a reserve player that has a 50/50 chance at making the roster. If he is dealt, I would imagine the Saints would probably reach out to Chase Daniel or Teddy Bridgewater to fill the primary backup role.

I would trust both of those guys as backups before JW. We've hit home runs in the 7th round before. Getting any compensation for him would be great.

saintsfan1976 · 05-30-2023, 09:36 AM

Jameis was 5-2 before his injury.

Don't discount having a solid backup!

SmashMouth · 05-30-2023, 09:51 AM

https://saintswire.usatoday.com/2023...s-quarterback/

Is someone, John Sigler, reading this forum?

Boston Saint · 05-30-2023, 09:52 AM

I’d take Winston over Bridgewater. But that’s just me.

K Major · 05-30-2023, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Jameis was 5-2 before his injury.

Don't discount having a solid backup!

Precisely.

See Raiders/Jimmy G's situation. There's a good chance he won't be healthy at all this season.

Good luck winning games with Brian Hoyer as your "backup".

stickman · 05-31-2023, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Precisely.

See Raiders/Jimmy G's situation. There's a good chance he won't be healthy at all this season.

Good luck winning games with Brian Hoyer as your "backup".

Hey K Major, mock Hoyer the Destroyer at your peril.

05-29-2023, 04:16 PM	#11
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05-30-2023, 01:14 AM	#12
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05-30-2023, 07:31 AM	#13
hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,320	Re: Will Raiders Trade For Jameis Winston? Carr is the QB we were looking for. He is much better than anyone realizes. This is a guy you can win Super Bowls with and if you put him in the right position will win Super Bowls. Carr has the potential to get a HoF bust imo, just nobody realizes it quite yet cause he's been in football hell for so long. Quite frankly, it's kind of amazing he performed as he did in Oakland/LV considering the situation there. This season will cement him as the guy and we won't be worried about QBs anymore. I'm telling you... Brees 2.0. He's not the same player in terms of what they actually do, but the way we picked him up off the free-agent market is similar. If we send Winston to the Raiders, and we get resources from that, then the Raiders will have officially got fleeced. If Carr gets hurt, I'd prefer to go with Taysom or something; anything but Winston. I don't think Allen and Carmichael are creative enough to win with a QB like Winston(or some other middle-of-the-road QB) like Payton was(this does not mean I don't think that we can win with Allen or Carmichael though). Allen is hyper-logical in how he approaches football, he's definitely not bad. He's just not as good as Payton. Payton just had a wisdom about him that we don't have on our coaching staff anymore. It's like he knew what to do often at the right time. I really miss having that. Allen is more like playing the odds. Thirty3 likes this.
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hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,320	Re: Will Raiders Trade For Jameis Winston? Originally Posted by MatthewT If Winston is dealt, I don't see the Saints getting more than a 7th round pick for him, or maybe a reserve player that has a 50/50 chance at making the roster. If he is dealt, I would imagine the Saints would probably reach out to Chase Daniel or Teddy Bridgewater to fill the primary backup role. I would trust both of those guys as backups before JW. We've hit home runs in the 7th round before. Getting any compensation for him would be great. MatthewT and Thirty3 like this.
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stickman 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Gonzales, LA Posts: 1,680	Re: Will Raiders Trade For Jameis Winston? Originally Posted by K Major Precisely. See Raiders/Jimmy G's situation. There's a good chance he won't be healthy at all this season. Good luck winning games with Brian Hoyer as your "backup". Hey K Major, mock Hoyer the Destroyer at your peril. Rugby Saint II and K Major like this.