Will Raiders Trade For Jameis Winston?

AsylumGuido · 05-31-2023, 11:02 AM

Not only here in this piece, but I'm hearing from other sources that the whole foot deal is nothing unexpected (that's why the waiver was written into the deal in the first place) and that those involved are expecting Garoppolo to be ready by opening week. I doubt the Raiders are going to suddenly decide to spend any sort of substantial resources to pick up a starting caliber QB like Winston at this point. They could be wrong, but I think it is mostly media hype.

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SmashMouth · 05-31-2023, 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Not only here in this piece, but I'm hearing from other sources that the whole foot deal is nothing unexpected (that's why the waiver was written into the deal in the first place) and that those involved are expecting Garoppolo to be ready by opening week. I doubt the Raiders are going to suddenly decide to spend any sort of substantial resources to pick up a starting caliber QB like Winston at this point. They could be wrong, but I think it is mostly media hype.

https://twitter.com/mlombardiNFL/sta...71041649184768

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Boston Saint · 05-31-2023, 11:23 AM

I know a lot of people have their minds made up about Winston and that’s understandable. But consider he is still only 29 and he’s got a great arm that put up a 5,000 yard season. If I were the Raiders or any team I’d take a chance on him over washed up Ryan, Wentz, or a guy like Dalton who never put up a 30+ TD season. I’m glad we signed Car, but I think JW still has a viable place in the NFL.

Boston Saint · 05-31-2023, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

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AsylumGuido · 05-31-2023, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

I know a lot of people have their minds made up about Winston and that’s understandable. But consider he is still only 29 and he’s got a great arm that put up a 5,000 yard season. If I were the Raiders or any team I’d take a chance on him over washed up Ryan, Wentz, or a guy like Dalton who never put up a 30+ TD season. I’m glad we signed Car, but I think JW still has a viable place in the NFL.

I agree completely. I think there's a good chance Winston ends up with a QB needy team sometime before the trade deadline. I just don't think the Raiders are that team. The Raiders knew exactly what they were getting with Garoppolo. They were aware that a procedure was needed on that foot. If they were that concerned they would have already made some move. But, injuries happen every season. Someone will lose a starting QB for an extended period. It happens every year. The Saints should be ready to take advantage of that situation with Winston.

Rugby Saint II · 06-04-2023, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I agree completely. I think there's a good chance Winston ends up with a QB needy team sometime before the trade deadline. I just don't think the Raiders are that team. The Raiders knew exactly what they were getting with Garoppolo. They were aware that a procedure was needed on that foot. If they were that concerned they would have already made some move. But, injuries happen every season. Someone will lose a starting QB for an extended period. It happens every year. The Saints should be ready to take advantage of that situation with Winston.

Winston has value to this team. But I'm thinking it's his trade value that will benefit the team most this year. I agree that Carmichael may not know how to game plan for Winston and his tendencies as well as he did with Drew. Last year the team didn't seem confident in Winston and it showed in the play calls. Winston was at his best when Payton was coaching him and making him wear blinders like a race horse while he was micro managed.

Boston Saint · 06-04-2023, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Winston has value to this team. But I'm thinking it's his trade value that will benefit the team most this year. I agree that Carmichael may not know how to game plan for Winston and his tendencies as well as he did with Drew. Last year the team didn't seem confident in Winston and it showed in the play calls. Winston was at his best when Payton was coaching him and making him wear blinders like a race horse while he was micro managed.

Also may never know how much a part his injury played in things.

iceshack149 · 07-29-2023, 11:20 AM

I used to have a true disdain for Jameis Winston but he really seems to have made big changes in his life. It's not an overstatement that I say that I'm proud of the man.

Saints: Jameis Winston Is 'Ready To Uplift' Derek Carr; Still 'One of Those 32' Starters

Not every former first-overall draft pick, nor starting quarterback, is capable of handling being relegated to a backup role, then watching the franchise offer a multi-million deal and coach's vote of confidence to the new starter. However, Jameis Winston has handled the situation with grace and has been very supportive of Derek Carr since he arrived in New Orleans.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...6364a997&ei=90

K Major · 07-29-2023, 11:51 AM

Saints need more depth on the Oline. The NFL is a grind.

I’d listen to all trade scenarios but I’d hate to
lose a quality backup (JW) that has proven he can win games.

Rugby Saint II · 07-29-2023, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Saints need more depth on the Oline. The NFL is a grind.

I’d listen to all trade scenarios but I’d hate to
lose a quality backup (JW) that has proven he can win games.

The offensive line already took a big hit and I won't be surprised to see us sign another big ugly soon.

05-31-2023, 11:02 AM	#21
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05-31-2023, 11:09 AM	#22
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 37,105 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Will Raiders Trade For Jameis Winston? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Not only here in this piece, but I'm hearing from other sources that the whole foot deal is nothing unexpected (that's why the waiver was written into the deal in the first place) and that those involved are expecting Garoppolo to be ready by opening week. I doubt the Raiders are going to suddenly decide to spend any sort of substantial resources to pick up a starting caliber QB like Winston at this point. They could be wrong, but I think it is mostly media hype. https://twitter.com/mlombardiNFL/sta...71041649184768 Florio generating clicks? NFW K Major and Boston Saint like this.

05-31-2023, 11:23 AM	#23
Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,878	Re: Will Raiders Trade For Jameis Winston? I know a lot of people have their minds made up about Winston and that’s understandable. But consider he is still only 29 and he’s got a great arm that put up a 5,000 yard season. If I were the Raiders or any team I’d take a chance on him over washed up Ryan, Wentz, or a guy like Dalton who never put up a 30+ TD season. I’m glad we signed Car, but I think JW still has a viable place in the NFL. iceshack149, leilung, SmashMouth and 1 others like this.

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05-31-2023, 01:56 PM	#25
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: Will Raiders Trade For Jameis Winston? Originally Posted by Boston Saint I know a lot of people have their minds made up about Winston and that’s understandable. But consider he is still only 29 and he’s got a great arm that put up a 5,000 yard season. If I were the Raiders or any team I’d take a chance on him over washed up Ryan, Wentz, or a guy like Dalton who never put up a 30+ TD season. I’m glad we signed Car, but I think JW still has a viable place in the NFL. I agree completely. I think there's a good chance Winston ends up with a QB needy team sometime before the trade deadline. I just don't think the Raiders are that team. The Raiders knew exactly what they were getting with Garoppolo. They were aware that a procedure was needed on that foot. If they were that concerned they would have already made some move. But, injuries happen every season. Someone will lose a starting QB for an extended period. It happens every year. The Saints should be ready to take advantage of that situation with Winston. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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06-04-2023, 12:22 PM	#26
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,762	Re: Will Raiders Trade For Jameis Winston? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I agree completely. I think there's a good chance Winston ends up with a QB needy team sometime before the trade deadline. I just don't think the Raiders are that team. The Raiders knew exactly what they were getting with Garoppolo. They were aware that a procedure was needed on that foot. If they were that concerned they would have already made some move. But, injuries happen every season. Someone will lose a starting QB for an extended period. It happens every year. The Saints should be ready to take advantage of that situation with Winston. Winston has value to this team. But I'm thinking it's his trade value that will benefit the team most this year. I agree that Carmichael may not know how to game plan for Winston and his tendencies as well as he did with Drew. Last year the team didn't seem confident in Winston and it showed in the play calls. Winston was at his best when Payton was coaching him and making him wear blinders like a race horse while he was micro managed.

06-04-2023, 01:42 PM	#27
Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,878	Re: Will Raiders Trade For Jameis Winston? Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Winston has value to this team. But I'm thinking it's his trade value that will benefit the team most this year. I agree that Carmichael may not know how to game plan for Winston and his tendencies as well as he did with Drew. Last year the team didn't seem confident in Winston and it showed in the play calls. Winston was at his best when Payton was coaching him and making him wear blinders like a race horse while he was micro managed. Also may never know how much a part his injury played in things.

07-29-2023, 11:20 AM	#28
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,097 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Will Raiders Trade For Jameis Winston? I used to have a true disdain for Jameis Winston but he really seems to have made big changes in his life. It's not an overstatement that I say that I'm proud of the man. Saints: Jameis Winston Is 'Ready To Uplift' Derek Carr; Still 'One of Those 32' Starters Not every former first-overall draft pick, nor starting quarterback, is capable of handling being relegated to a backup role, then watching the franchise offer a multi-million deal and coach's vote of confidence to the new starter. However, Jameis Winston has handled the situation with grace and has been very supportive of Derek Carr since he arrived in New Orleans. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...6364a997&ei=90 SmashMouth likes this.

07-29-2023, 11:51 AM	#29
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,065 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Will Raiders Trade For Jameis Winston? Saints need more depth on the Oline. The NFL is a grind. I’d listen to all trade scenarios but I’d hate to lose a quality backup (JW) that has proven he can win games. Rugby Saint II likes this.

07-29-2023, 02:45 PM	#30
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,762	Re: Will Raiders Trade For Jameis Winston? Originally Posted by K Major Saints need more depth on the Oline. The NFL is a grind. I’d listen to all trade scenarios but I’d hate to lose a quality backup (JW) that has proven he can win games. The offensive line already took a big hit and I won't be surprised to see us sign another big ugly soon.