Kamara pleads no contest to misdemeanor charge

hitta · 08-06-2023, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

It's because we switched our vote to help Goodell's Thursday Night flex scheduling plan go through. The Jets stayed a No on Goodell's plan. We got Kamara back early. They got Hard Knocks. Quid pro quo. It's possible Goodell will act more favorably to us now that we made peace, but at the same time we are getting cozy with Grude who is public enemy #1, so I am not sure how all that will play out. Lets hope we get more favorable treatment on suspensions and scheduling going forward.

Besides Goodell though, there are also the refs. To some degree I think the refs take subtle queues from Goodell if they want promotions to head of officiating etc, but at the same time I think the refs have their own grudges. Unfortunately, making a deal with Goodell on Thursday Night flex is unlikely to totally solve the refs grudes against us for not respecting their authority in 2018 and booing them a lot since then.

I wouldn't want our team to get cozy with Goodell, but he has power and I'd prefer to stay off his ****list. It's a shame that such a horrible person has been given power to the extent that our franchise has to walk a line with him. I say walk the line but always remember he's a douche and if he crosses the line stand our ground. Mrs. Gayle seems to be handling Goodell quite well imo.

SmashMouth · 08-07-2023, 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

You know, I never really bought into the whole “Goodell hates us” mantra but this suspension is odd. 3 games not only seems very lenient compared to what's been handed to us in the past but pretty lenient compared to what we've seen around the NFL as a whole. I'm thinking Goodell the 3 game suspension might in part be a middle finger to Payton. You know Payton is thinking if he were here it would have been longer.
It's going to be interesting to see if all that “Goodell hate” follows him to Denver.

Edit
I'm sure Guido is scripting some contrary post as I write this edit but it does make you think

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

It's because we switched our vote to help Goodell's Thursday Night flex scheduling plan go through. The Jets stayed a No on Goodell's plan. We got Kamara back early. They got Hard Knocks. Quid pro quo. It's possible Goodell will act more favorably to us now that we made peace, but at the same time we are getting cozy with Grude who is public enemy #1, so I am not sure how all that will play out. Lets hope we get more favorable treatment on suspensions and scheduling going forward.

Besides Goodell though, there are also the refs. To some degree I think the refs take subtle queues from Goodell if they want promotions to head of officiating etc, but at the same time I think the refs have their own grudges. Unfortunately, making a deal with Goodell on Thursday Night flex is unlikely to totally solve the refs grudes against us for not respecting their authority in 2018 and booing them a lot since then.

Originally Posted by jnormand

Interesting thought Bako. And certainly not out of the realm of possibilities.

All valid points. We should quietly monitor if this comes to fruition. We're all going to keep an eye on what SP does and how he's treated as he now coaches in the mile high city.

Rugby Saint II · 08-07-2023, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

All valid points. We should quietly monitor if this comes to fruition. We're all going to keep an eye on what SP does and how he's treated as he now coaches in the mile high city.

Oh, he's so screwed! Godhell hates Payton, the non conformist, who refuses to kneel before him or kiss the ring. Gayle seems to be walking the fine line between calling him out, after baselessly fining Cam and the Saints for faking an injury, and voting for Thursday night games or whatever the shields agenda is at the moment(depending on law suits).

SmashMouth · 08-09-2023, 07:33 PM

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Rugby Saint II · 08-10-2023, 01:49 PM

The past is history now. The big question is do we learn from our past mistakes? I know he let a lot of people down and it looks like he has a new focus now. He has been through the legal process and the court of public opinion still wants him to pay more. I don't get it. I've done well with second chances....mostly.

AsylumGuido · 08-10-2023, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

The past is history now. The big question is do we learn from our past mistakes? I know he let a lot of people down and it looks like he has a new focus now. He has been through the legal process and the court of public opinion still wants him to pay more. I don't get it. I've done well with second chances....mostly.

The vast majority of rational people have accepted his lesson learned. A tiny minority seem to have a grip on hate that they cannot let go. That's their problem.

Boston Saint · 08-10-2023, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

The past is history now. The big question is do we learn from our past mistakes? I know he let a lot of people down and it looks like he has a new focus now. He has been through the legal process and the court of public opinion still wants him to pay more. I don't get it. I've done well with second chances....mostly.

I think Some people see violence as a line that, once crossed, cannot be uncrossed Rugby. To them, it’s like rape or child molestation. There is a trust that is lost when one makes the decision to sexual assault a person, or abuse a child, or send a person to the hospital through a physical beating. They don’t see it as a mistake. To those people, Shoplifting or speeding are mistakes that can be forgiven. Violence is another matter. It’s an indication of a person’s deep character. A sign of what they are capable of when put in a certain situation.

You can forgive your dog for peeing on the floor or chewing your shoes or breaking into the food. You don’t forgive your dog when it injures you or a family member in an attack and sends them to the hospital. You put the dog down and get a new one.

At least that’s the way others have explained it to me; including people who have been victims of sexual or physical attack. It’s not the person the hate…it’s the act and personal violation they’ve experienced that they have to deal with for the rest of their lives that they hate.

mapcow · 08-10-2023, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

The vast majority of rational people have accepted his lesson learned. A tiny minority seem to have a grip on hate that they cannot let go. That's their problem.

Hate has NOTHING to do with this... All about reality and personal responsibility. I am quite sure you would not mind the thug Kamara beatin you upside your melon... LMAO

The NFL should implement a NO Tolerance clause when violence is brought upon a bystander by ANY NFL player. One and done.

Furthermore... the thug Kamara was not a misguided rookie, but a highly paid supposedly proffessional player in the NFL.

so now... an NFL football player, wanting a 2 or 3 game rest, can go beat on people and NOT lose their job.

K Major · 08-10-2023, 03:35 PM

What transpired on that Las Vegas night was an embarrassment to the team, the league, the city, and AK's family. Luckily that guy didn't die (was beaten unconscious).

AK isn't 18 or 19 years of age.

Find new friends.

K Major · 08-10-2023, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

https://twitter.com/KristianGaric/st...37590285942784

Kristian Garic ....

First time I've heard his name all summer. Must be spending more time with Deeke Belluvia these days.

08-06-2023, 10:27 PM	#101
hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,320	Re: Kamara pleads no contest to misdemeanor charge Originally Posted by BakoSaint It's because we switched our vote to help Goodell's Thursday Night flex scheduling plan go through. The Jets stayed a No on Goodell's plan. We got Kamara back early. They got Hard Knocks. Quid pro quo. It's possible Goodell will act more favorably to us now that we made peace, but at the same time we are getting cozy with Grude who is public enemy #1, so I am not sure how all that will play out. Lets hope we get more favorable treatment on suspensions and scheduling going forward. Besides Goodell though, there are also the refs. To some degree I think the refs take subtle queues from Goodell if they want promotions to head of officiating etc, but at the same time I think the refs have their own grudges. Unfortunately, making a deal with Goodell on Thursday Night flex is unlikely to totally solve the refs grudes against us for not respecting their authority in 2018 and booing them a lot since then. I wouldn't want our team to get cozy with Goodell, but he has power and I'd prefer to stay off his ****list. It's a shame that such a horrible person has been given power to the extent that our franchise has to walk a line with him. I say walk the line but always remember he's a douche and if he crosses the line stand our ground. Mrs. Gayle seems to be handling Goodell quite well imo. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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08-07-2023, 09:16 AM	#102
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,125 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Kamara pleads no contest to misdemeanor charge Originally Posted by The Dude You know, I never really bought into the whole “Goodell hates us” mantra but this suspension is odd. 3 games not only seems very lenient compared to what's been handed to us in the past but pretty lenient compared to what we've seen around the NFL as a whole. I'm thinking Goodell the 3 game suspension might in part be a middle finger to Payton. You know Payton is thinking if he were here it would have been longer. It's going to be interesting to see if all that “Goodell hate” follows him to Denver. Edit I'm sure Guido is scripting some contrary post as I write this edit but it does make you think Originally Posted by BakoSaint It's because we switched our vote to help Goodell's Thursday Night flex scheduling plan go through. The Jets stayed a No on Goodell's plan. We got Kamara back early. They got Hard Knocks. Quid pro quo. It's possible Goodell will act more favorably to us now that we made peace, but at the same time we are getting cozy with Grude who is public enemy #1, so I am not sure how all that will play out. Lets hope we get more favorable treatment on suspensions and scheduling going forward. Besides Goodell though, there are also the refs. To some degree I think the refs take subtle queues from Goodell if they want promotions to head of officiating etc, but at the same time I think the refs have their own grudges. Unfortunately, making a deal with Goodell on Thursday Night flex is unlikely to totally solve the refs grudes against us for not respecting their authority in 2018 and booing them a lot since then. Originally Posted by jnormand Interesting thought Bako. And certainly not out of the realm of possibilities. All valid points. We should quietly monitor if this comes to fruition. We're all going to keep an eye on what SP does and how he's treated as he now coaches in the mile high city.

08-07-2023, 02:14 PM	#103
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Kamara pleads no contest to misdemeanor charge Originally Posted by SmashMouth All valid points. We should quietly monitor if this comes to fruition. We're all going to keep an eye on what SP does and how he's treated as he now coaches in the mile high city. Oh, he's so screwed! Godhell hates Payton, the non conformist, who refuses to kneel before him or kiss the ring. Gayle seems to be walking the fine line between calling him out, after baselessly fining Cam and the Saints for faking an injury, and voting for Thursday night games or whatever the shields agenda is at the moment(depending on law suits).

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Kamara pleads no contest to misdemeanor charge The past is history now. The big question is do we learn from our past mistakes? I know he let a lot of people down and it looks like he has a new focus now. He has been through the legal process and the court of public opinion still wants him to pay more. I don't get it. I've done well with second chances....mostly. AsylumGuido and SmashMouth like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,216	Re: Kamara pleads no contest to misdemeanor charge Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II The past is history now. The big question is do we learn from our past mistakes? I know he let a lot of people down and it looks like he has a new focus now. He has been through the legal process and the court of public opinion still wants him to pay more. I don't get it. I've done well with second chances....mostly. The vast majority of rational people have accepted his lesson learned. A tiny minority seem to have a grip on hate that they cannot let go. That's their problem.

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Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Kamara pleads no contest to misdemeanor charge Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II The past is history now. The big question is do we learn from our past mistakes? I know he let a lot of people down and it looks like he has a new focus now. He has been through the legal process and the court of public opinion still wants him to pay more. I don't get it. I've done well with second chances....mostly. I think Some people see violence as a line that, once crossed, cannot be uncrossed Rugby. To them, it’s like rape or child molestation. There is a trust that is lost when one makes the decision to sexual assault a person, or abuse a child, or send a person to the hospital through a physical beating. They don’t see it as a mistake. To those people, Shoplifting or speeding are mistakes that can be forgiven. Violence is another matter. It’s an indication of a person’s deep character. A sign of what they are capable of when put in a certain situation. You can forgive your dog for peeing on the floor or chewing your shoes or breaking into the food. You don’t forgive your dog when it injures you or a family member in an attack and sends them to the hospital. You put the dog down and get a new one. At least that’s the way others have explained it to me; including people who have been victims of sexual or physical attack. It’s not the person the hate…it’s the act and personal violation they’ve experienced that they have to deal with for the rest of their lives that they hate. jnormand, Rugby Saint II and mapcow like this.
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mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,753	Re: Kamara pleads no contest to misdemeanor charge Originally Posted by AsylumGuido The vast majority of rational people have accepted his lesson learned. A tiny minority seem to have a grip on hate that they cannot let go. That's their problem. Hate has NOTHING to do with this... All about reality and personal responsibility. I am quite sure you would not mind the thug Kamara beatin you upside your melon... LMAO The NFL should implement a NO Tolerance clause when violence is brought upon a bystander by ANY NFL player. One and done. Furthermore... the thug Kamara was not a misguided rookie, but a highly paid supposedly proffessional player in the NFL. so now... an NFL football player, wanting a 2 or 3 game rest, can go beat on people and NOT lose their job. jnormand, K Major and Boston Saint like this.
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08-10-2023, 03:35 PM	#109
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Kamara pleads no contest to misdemeanor charge What transpired on that Las Vegas night was an embarrassment to the team, the league, the city, and AK's family. Luckily that guy didn't die (was beaten unconscious). AK isn't 18 or 19 years of age. Find new friends. SmashMouth, Rugby Saint II, mapcow and 1 others like this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Kamara pleads no contest to misdemeanor charge Originally Posted by SmashMouth https://twitter.com/KristianGaric/st...37590285942784 Kristian Garic .... First time I've heard his name all summer. Must be spending more time with Deeke Belluvia these days. SmashMouth and mapcow like this.