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AsylumGuido 07-12-2023 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 975951)
You know several years ago I would’ve jumped right into this conversation and had fun, but can’t we all just get along!!! 😂💩

I can, and without name calling!

:D

But, I'm just moving on. If someone wants to hate they can. I'll choose to respect my fellow man (or woman, or for that matter, other).

Boston Saint 07-12-2023 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 975953)
:confused:

Um, okay?

“ Haters gonna hate.

You couldn't find it because it didn't exist out there yet. The video was never shared prior to its introduction months later. ”

This is a lie. Two users here have said they saw it at the time. It may have been taken down quickly, but it was shown. You are a LIAR if you maintain I did not it see it at the time of the incident because I did. By denying my testimony you are saying I’m being untruthful. F-you “my friend”.

AsylumGuido 07-12-2023 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 975955)
“ Haters gonna hate.

You couldn't find it because it didn't exist out there yet. The video was never shared prior to its introduction months later. ”

This is a lie. Two users here have said they saw it at the time. It may have been taken down quickly, but it was shown. You are a LIAR if you maintain I did not it see it at the time of the incident because I did. By denying my testimony you are saying I’m being untruthful. F-you “my friend”.

Incredible! Pretty frickin' amazing that the only two people in the world that saw the video in the seconds before it was "taken down" from the internet, and even more amazingly before it was shared by any other human, both happen to post here in this thread!

Wow! I'm sure we're all convinced you are telling the truth to the best of your knowledge. Undeniable!

But all the rest of us finally got to see the video months later. Doesn't change anything. The kid with a spotless record made a mistake in friends and most likely learned from it. And, some jerk made a bunch of money off of it.

AsylumGuido 07-12-2023 09:06 PM

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jnormand 07-12-2023 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 975907)
I'd be in slammer with you, brother. I wouldn't bend over and pick up the soap , though. :bugeyes:

:shock:

You’re so full of **** Smash! Yeah you would. You’d walk into the showers with a whole box of soap to drop ya sick bastard. Lmao!!!

Rugby Saint II 07-13-2023 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 975958)
You’re so full of **** Smash! Yeah you would. You’d walk into the showers with a whole box of soap to drop ya sick bastard. Lmao!!!

Well, at lest he'd be popular. That might be a good way to break the ice and get close to your cell mates. I hope that he wouldn't forget to bring extra cartons of cigarettes just in case they don't find him all that attractive. :doh:

Boston Saint 07-13-2023 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 975956)
Incredible! Pretty frickin' amazing that the only two people in the world that saw the video in the seconds before it was "taken down" from the internet, and even more amazingly before it was shared by any other human, both happen to post here in this thread!

Wow! I'm sure we're all convinced you are telling the truth to the best of your knowledge. Undeniable!

But all the rest of us finally got to see the video months later. Doesn't change anything. The kid with a spotless record made a mistake in friends and most likely learned from it. And, some jerk made a bunch of money off of it.

Still makes you a liar

AsylumGuido 07-13-2023 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 975979)
Still makes you a liar

:rolleyes:

turbo_dog 07-13-2023 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 975955)
“ Haters gonna hate.

You couldn't find it because it didn't exist out there yet. The video was never shared prior to its introduction months later. ”

This is a lie. Two users here have said they saw it at the time. It may have been taken down quickly, but it was shown. You are a LIAR if you maintain I did not it see it at the time of the incident because I did. By denying my testimony you are saying I’m being untruthful. F-you “my friend”.

I definitely saw the video. I don't know how many days or weeks after the incident happened, but I saw it. It seemed like it was fairly soon after I first started hearing of reports that AK was involved in this mess in Vegas.

AsylumGuido 07-13-2023 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by turbo_dog (Post 975981)
I definitely saw the video. I don't know how many days or weeks after the incident happened, but I saw it. It seemed like it was fairly soon after I first started hearing of reports that AK was involved in this mess in Vegas.

Everyone should have seen the video. It was out there everywhere a several weeks later. Soon after the affair happened (a week or so later) it was reported that the hotel had surveillance video that they had shared with the Vegas PD. The Vegas PD gave a somewhat detailed description in an official statement of what the video that they held entailed. When it was finally released publicly a few weeks or more later it was old news but showed where Kamara was the least involved of any of them and was not involved at all in any of the kicking or stomping.

AsylumGuido 07-13-2023 04:27 PM

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I think the confusion over the timing of the video release was because of the police statement describing the content. Reports started spreading about those details and people assumed that the video had already been made public and then believed they themselves had seen that video. It's basically the Mandela effect.

I actually spent hours searching for any sign of the video after I heard about it. I'm always online searching out Saints news. There is no evidence that the video was ever shared before it showed up for everyone everywhere weeks or more later.

Boston Saint 07-13-2023 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 975983)
I think the confusion over the timing of the video release was because of the police statement describing the content. Reports started spreading about those details and people assumed that the video had already been made public and then believed they themselves had seen that video. It's basically the Mandela effect.

I actually spent hours searching for any sign of the video after I heard about it. I'm always online searching out Saints news. There is no evidence that the video was ever shared before it showed up for everyone everywhere weeks or more later.

Except for multiple people who say they saw it immediately after which you now you have defamed by saying they could not have. Now you are twisting things again Guido to cover your butt.

AsylumGuido 07-13-2023 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 975984)
Except for multiple people who say they saw it immediately after which you now you have defamed by saying they could not have. Now you are twisting things again Guido to cover your butt.

Those two people are mistaken. It wasn't out there yet. That is a fact. But I'm not calling you a liar. I fully believe that you both believe you saw it immediately after. The event was 17 months ago. Time becomes compacted as it move along. But all of that is irrelevant.

None of that changes what was shown actually in the video when it was finally released. I just watched it again. Kamara was not involved in any of the kicking or stomping. He had already backed off. But even that doesn't matter. I understand that nothing will ever allow you to forgive the kid for that one mistake in his life. That's fine. Just please except the fact most of the rest of us have and will continue to do just that.

Now can we please just move along, Boston, and get back to football?

Boston Saint 07-13-2023 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 975985)
Those two people are mistaken. It wasn't out there yet. That is a fact. But I'm not calling you a liar. I fully believe that you both believe you saw it immediately after. The event was 17 months ago. Time becomes compacted as it move along. But all of that is irrelevant.

None of that changes what was shown actually in the video when it was finally released. I just watched it again. Kamara was not involved in any of the kicking or stomping. He had already backed off. But even that doesn't matter. I understand that nothing will ever allow you to forgive the kid for that one mistake in his life. That's fine. Just please except the fact most of the rest of us have and will continue to do just that.

Now can we please just move along, Boston, and get back to football?

You can believe I and others are mistaken. I know you are a liar. Now get back to whatever else you want

saintsfan1976 07-14-2023 09:25 AM

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I'd place the total at 2.5 games and I'd say "under". I think he gets 2 games for "Personal Conduct".

AsylumGuido 07-14-2023 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 975993)
I'd place the total at 2.5 games and I'd say "under". I think he gets 2 games for "Personal Conduct".

Leaning that way myself. Right now the hot topic for the league are the gambling related issues. I think they'd rather this one just go away as most people really don't care. They'll probably feel they have to do something, but not want it front and center.

Rugby Saint II 07-14-2023 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 975935)
Loving your energy these days.

Thanks Rez. I appreciate that. I'm feeling more optimistic than I've been in years.

K Major 07-14-2023 02:03 PM

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While most NFL teams are getting ready for the start of training camp, Saints nation is speculating how many games our knucklehead superstar RB is gonna have to serve in 2023.

I never expected any jail time but that suspension is coming.
Hopefully he sits SOONER rather than later.

Sad really.

Rugby Saint II 07-16-2023 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 975997)
While most NFL teams are getting ready for the start of training camp, Saints nation is speculating how many games our knucklehead superstar RB is gonna have to serve in 2023.

I never expected any jail time but that suspension is coming.
Hopefully he sits SOONER rather than later.

Sad really.

I won't be surprised if the suspension comes at midseason. :roll: If Roger Godhell had his way he be banned for a year and fined his pay check. But, I read that the NFLPA has taken that power out of his hands and given it to a third party.

Of course, it would be better for Alvin Kamara to start the year on a suspension, and then come back fresh and motivated. Ideally, it would be a total of four games lost after an appeal but the shield might think they took a shot to their brand/image, since it occurred at the Pro Bowl. We'll see.

K Major 07-16-2023 02:03 PM

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Who knows what the league will do.

Reason I say “sooner rather than later” is because after week 8,
the schedule is full of NFC opponents & playoff implications will
become crucial. We need all hands on deck & divisional games are
tough regardless of records.

To be continued…

AsylumGuido 07-16-2023 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 976012)
I won't be surprised if the suspension comes at midseason. :roll: If Roger Godhell had his way he be banned for a year and fined his pay check. But, I read that the NFLPA has taken that power out of his hands and given it to a third party.

Of course, it would be better for Alvin Kamara to start the year on a suspension, and then come back fresh and motivated. Ideally, it would be a total of four games lost after an appeal but the shield might think they took a shot to their brand/image, since it occurred at the Pro Bowl. We'll see.

IF there is a suspension I'll guarantee you it will be at the beginning of the season. AT this point I'm no longer convinced there will be a suspension. Definitely not one of any extreme length.

BakoSaint 07-16-2023 07:35 PM

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I think there will be a small suspension. I think most things in the NFL work by quid pro quo and the Saints switched their vote to save Goodell’s Thursday night football project. It might look bad to not suspend Kamara at all but I expect a 2-4 game suspension. No suspension is possible. If the suspension is long the Saints would logically go back to a hard no on all Goodell’s initiatives and then Goodell and the Saints burned the Jets for nothing.

turbo_dog 07-17-2023 11:57 AM

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The good thing is we have the pieces in place to account for his absence during whatever suspension period he gets.

Rugby Saint II 07-17-2023 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by turbo_dog (Post 976032)
The good thing is we have the pieces in place to account for his absence during whatever suspension period he gets.

We are better prepared for him to miss time now than we were last year when I fully expected him to miss half the season. In retrospect, I wish that he had been suspended last year. I don't think that the NFL will go easy on him and give him a slap on the wrist since the incident happened at the pro bowl. The shield may feel the need to make an example out of him so that it looks like they care. (we all know that they only care about profit.) :roll:

SmashMouth 07-31-2023 02:42 PM

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AsylumGuido 08-02-2023 08:16 AM

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AsylumGuido 08-02-2023 03:49 PM

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SmashMouth 08-03-2023 07:56 AM

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AsylumGuido 08-03-2023 10:07 AM

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Impeccable track record. Important note from Mike Triplett.


Rugby Saint II 08-03-2023 12:42 PM

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If I were AK I'd say...."I throw myself on the mercy of the court. Incidentally, that Payton is sure is a jerk. Isn't he?"

AsylumGuido 08-03-2023 01:35 PM

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AsylumGuido 08-04-2023 10:02 AM

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AsylumGuido 08-04-2023 11:55 AM

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Make it happen, Loomis!


AsylumGuido 08-04-2023 11:59 AM

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MatthewT 08-04-2023 01:51 PM

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Reports show 3 games, not a bad deal, time to move on now!

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profoo...ed-three-games

Boston Saint 08-04-2023 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MatthewT (Post 976631)
Reports show 3 games, not a bad deal, time to move on now!

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profoo...ed-three-games

About as light as he could have been hoping for IMO

stickman 08-04-2023 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MatthewT (Post 976631)
Reports show 3 games, not a bad deal, time to move on now!

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profoo...ed-three-games

Is that before or after the appeal? It seems the appeal always reduces it by a game or so.

AsylumGuido 08-04-2023 02:58 PM

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Kamara's involvement in his encounter was obviously not as serious as some detractors made it out to be. Two other players just got slapped with six game suspensions under the same personal conduct policy for things clearly deemed more egregious.


AsylumGuido 08-04-2023 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by stickman (Post 976634)
Is that before or after the appeal? It seems the appeal always reduces it by a game or so.

There won't be any appeal as there was no hearing. The suspension was apparently negotiated.


AsylumGuido 08-04-2023 03:16 PM

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Classy young man. Proud to have him as a Saint.

ALVIN KAMARA ADDRESSES THINGS

Kamara met with the media for over 20 minutes following practice, and he started by getting everything out in the open. He took accountability and responsibility, not looking for any pity and also talking about losing things financially and in the realm of friendships.

"Poor judgment on my end, definitely a bad decision, but I'm a man," Kamara said following practice. "Anything I've ever done in my life, I've stood on and I can take accountability for. I can say when I'm wrong, and I was completely wrong. I embarrassed the Saints, I embarrassed my family and my mother, I embarrassed myself, I embarrassed this city and I embarrassed the NFL."


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