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It definitely has to be a huge weight off his shoulders.

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I watched his video addressing the media after his meeting with Goodell and I was impressed. He didn't shy away and seemed to admit he was completely in the wrong for what he did. Thats a good first step; admitting there was no excuse for what he did and he got himself into the mess. I'm not convinced he believes it...but at least he is saying the correct things.

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:rolleyes:

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Jesus Guido, you will NOT let up will you?

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he's childish like that. :beatnik:

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One could say the same for you, my friend. I really thought you were going to see Kamara as what he is ... a very intelligent young man that was raised right and knew he made a mistake. Why would you think he doesn't believe what he said? You said you learned from your mistakes. I believed you. Shouldn't I? Is he that different than you or me?

Edit: This is not any sort of attack. It is just me as a friend trying to understand you better.

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Once a thug....always a thug. cut him :beatnik:

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Why would I think he’s not sincere? Because he’s got millions of dollars at stake! Are you that freaking stupid?

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So, because he makes more money than us you don't believe him? Okay.

However, he doesn't have millions of dollars at stake. His paycheck doesn't depend upon his response at all. But, I get it. I think I know where you're coming from.

By the way, I'll refrain from "attacking" you if you refrain from the name calling. You are better than that, Boston. :cool:

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You know, I never really bought into the whole “Goodell hates us” mantra but this suspension is odd. 3 games not only seems very lenient compared to what's been handed to us in the past but pretty lenient compared to what we've seen around the NFL as a whole. I'm thinking Goodell the 3 game suspension might in part be a middle finger to Payton. You know Payton is thinking if he were here it would have been longer.
It's going to be interesting to see if all that “Goodell hate” follows him to Denver.

Edit
I'm sure Guido is scripting some contrary post as I write this edit but it does make you think

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It's because we switched our vote to help Goodell's Thursday Night flex scheduling plan go through. The Jets stayed a No on Goodell's plan. We got Kamara back early. They got Hard Knocks. Quid pro quo. It's possible Goodell will act more favorably to us now that we made peace, but at the same time we are getting cozy with Grude who is public enemy #1, so I am not sure how all that will play out. Lets hope we get more favorable treatment on suspensions and scheduling going forward.

Besides Goodell though, there are also the refs. To some degree I think the refs take subtle queues from Goodell if they want promotions to head of officiating etc, but at the same time I think the refs have their own grudges. Unfortunately, making a deal with Goodell on Thursday Night flex is unlikely to totally solve the refs grudes against us for not respecting their authority in 2018 and booing them a lot since then.

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Interesting thought Bako. And certainly not out of the realm of possibilities.

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I guess you are.

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Spot on! :beatnik:

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ya think he may eat something and get food poisoning.... its happened before you know. :beatnik:

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Good insight from Underhill.

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Three games? I can live with that. Now then, back to football! :bng:

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I wouldn't want our team to get cozy with Goodell, but he has power and I'd prefer to stay off his ****list. It's a shame that such a horrible person has been given power to the extent that our franchise has to walk a line with him. I say walk the line but always remember he's a douche and if he crosses the line stand our ground. Mrs. Gayle seems to be handling Goodell quite well imo.

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All valid points. We should quietly monitor if this comes to fruition. We're all going to keep an eye on what SP does and how he's treated as he now coaches in the mile high city.

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Oh, he's so screwed! Godhell hates Payton, the non conformist, who refuses to kneel before him or kiss the ring. Gayle seems to be walking the fine line between calling him out, after baselessly fining Cam and the Saints for faking an injury, and voting for Thursday night games or whatever the shields agenda is at the moment(depending on law suits).

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The past is history now. The big question is do we learn from our past mistakes? I know he let a lot of people down and it looks like he has a new focus now. He has been through the legal process and the court of public opinion still wants him to pay more. I don't get it. I've done well with second chances....mostly. :wink:

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The vast majority of rational people have accepted his lesson learned. A tiny minority seem to have a grip on hate that they cannot let go. That's their problem.

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I think Some people see violence as a line that, once crossed, cannot be uncrossed Rugby. To them, it’s like rape or child molestation. There is a trust that is lost when one makes the decision to sexual assault a person, or abuse a child, or send a person to the hospital through a physical beating. They don’t see it as a mistake. To those people, Shoplifting or speeding are mistakes that can be forgiven. Violence is another matter. It’s an indication of a person’s deep character. A sign of what they are capable of when put in a certain situation.

You can forgive your dog for peeing on the floor or chewing your shoes or breaking into the food. You don’t forgive your dog when it injures you or a family member in an attack and sends them to the hospital. You put the dog down and get a new one.

At least that’s the way others have explained it to me; including people who have been victims of sexual or physical attack. It’s not the person the hate…it’s the act and personal violation they’ve experienced that they have to deal with for the rest of their lives that they hate.

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Hate has NOTHING to do with this... All about reality and personal responsibility. I am quite sure you would not mind the thug Kamara beatin you upside your melon... LMAO :beatnik:

The NFL should implement a NO Tolerance clause when violence is brought upon a bystander by ANY NFL player. One and done.

Furthermore... the thug Kamara was not a misguided rookie, but a highly paid supposedly proffessional player in the NFL.

so now... an NFL football player, wanting a 2 or 3 game rest, can go beat on people and NOT lose their job.

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What transpired on that Las Vegas night was an embarrassment to the team, the league, the city, and AK's family. Luckily that guy didn't die (was beaten unconscious).

AK isn't 18 or 19 years of age.

Find new friends.

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Kristian Garic ....

First time I've heard his name all summer. Must be spending more time with Deeke Belluvia these days.

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The same can be said for the other NFL player, Colts' Chris Lammons, that was even more involved than Kamara in the incident yet got the exact same three game suspension. Although, it was their buddies that did most of the damage.

The lesson was learned, the guy got his money just as he likely planned, and it's now time to move on.

Then again, there's always those that live by the mantra that "haters gonna hate".

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https://media0.giphy.com/media/x0npY...giphy.gif&ct=g

I could care LESS what any OTHER NFL player does in the league & no one here on this board has to "move on". If you don't like others' opinions, use the ignore button. It's there for a reason.

You'd probably be singing a totally different tune if your son/daughter/wife was beaten senseless by AK's entourage.

By the way, please place the ignore button on me because your comments and opinions are inconsequential to me.

Saintfan was spot on. Narcissistic clown.

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Nor was it your son/daughter/wife. For all we know his mother/father/spouse were not surprised at all he got his butt kicked. From what I have read about the guy I have far more respect for Kamara than I do him.

And feel free to ignore me. I will decide on my own who I do or do not wish to ignore.

And I relish my personality. Name call all you wish. Much better than being self-loathing. :D

:bng:

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:rofl:

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Jeesh... you really are a tool.. Get over yourself. :beatnik:

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fact....

quido crossed the road.... because, something about a chicken.... :beatnik:

:rofl:

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It depends on who commits the violent acts and who those acts were against. If violence is the line drawn in the sand as an unforgivable act…..nevermind.

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I agree circumstances matter rez. I’d never say violence is always unacceptable. But In this particular situation has Kamara not made statements like:

“ There is absolutely no excuse”

“ I was completely in the wrong”

“I accept full responsibility”

To some people (Not necessarily saying myself) accepting that responsibility involves losing all trust from some going forward. He’s crossed a line by (admitting to) attacking a man without excuse and putting him in the hospital for no good reason. He then bragged about it later in a car. That’s not heat of the moment.

Just giving a viewpoint i’ve heard expressed by others in attempt to answer rugbys earlier posted statement; “He has been through the legal process and the court of public opinion still wants him to pay more. I don't get it.”

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I think Kamara is answering the way he knows certain segments of society want him to answer. There’s really no other way for him to respond with increasing the backlash and the punishment. I’m truly surprised it’s still a topic of conversation and that people feel so strongly about it. So many perspectives. I see why many of us can’t get on the same page in general.

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He certainly has handled himself well post the incident. He is saying the right things and appears contrite. But just for argument sake, here are a few things to consider in regards as to why people are on different pages with his issue. Let’s say that a person is satisfied with what Kamara has done after the legal ruling and comfortable with the price he has paid.

Is it so hard to understand that some other people may think one or more of these things:

He is only acting sorry and saying the “right” things because he has millions of dollars at stake. His actions and what he said about them afterward show his true nature.

Any person who has ever been violently assaulted and hospitalized unlawfully themselves would be much more sensitive to this issue, and therefore unwilling to forgive him for his actions.

Any person who has ever done something similar to Kamara (gotten into a bar fight let’s say) probably spent several months in jail. They see the unfairness of a rich person, getting away with a crime that a poor person would not.

In my mind these are all valid reasons why someone would have negative feelings about him. Just food for thought.