What Went Right & What Went Wrong

Boston Saint · 08-16-2023, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

Lets continue:

2008 5th Round OL
2007 3rd and 4th Round OL
2006 4th and 7th Round OL

Only the 3rd rounder is a bust. All three 4th/5ths start in the Super Bowl, and Strief the 7th is our top backup and eventual starter. Those picks, going oline 4 times in rounds 3-5 in a 3 year period, are as much as anything what wins us a ring.

Then we go oline in the 3rd-5th only 4 times in the next 15 years. Five if you count TQS. One of those mid round picks hit on all pro Terron Armstead.

Oline is 5 starting spots, about 20% of starters if you go 11+11+k+p+kr. So on average a team should pick 3 oline in rounds 3-5 every 5 years. We have hit bigger and more on those picks than any team. And since 2009 we have made less of those picks than any team. It just doesnt make sense. We paid major draft value to trade in a lunchpail oline that won it all for a primadonna oline that cant stay healthy and all we have to show for it are a lot of stanford college sweaters covered in little debbie snack crumbs.

Point is you say they stopped doing it when they did it this past draft. Are you saying you want every year to draft Oline with picks 3-6 despite team needs? Or are you just looking for your typical baseless reason to bash the front office?

If you’re gonna complain about drafting on the line, you’ve got much more ammunition on the Dline when they’ve had just as many if not more high rounds miss.

SmashMouth · 08-16-2023, 02:20 PM

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AsylumGuido · 08-16-2023, 03:41 PM

LB Anfernee Orji
Highest graded defensive rookies from Preseason Week 1🔥

(Minimum 15 Snaps) pic.twitter.com/dQyhWJ4jRD

— PFF College (@PFF_College) August 15, 2023

Orji (undrafted, Vanderbilt) recorded a 92.6 overall PFF player grade on 16 defensive snaps. He also led the Saints in special teams snaps played (19).

AsylumGuido · 08-16-2023, 03:44 PM

This is why the Saints went out and got him.

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SmashMouth · 08-16-2023, 04:33 PM

LOLz.... Eli Ricks. That won't last.

Anfernee Orji has not been talked about that much at camp. Curious to see him play more.

K Major · 08-16-2023, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Anfernee Orji has not been talked about that much at camp. Curious to see him play more.

Played well on special teams as well as on defense vs KC last weekend.

hitta · 08-16-2023, 05:43 PM

While a lot of people have lost faith in Pete Carmichael, I have not. I think he can be a good play-caller.

AsylumGuido · 08-16-2023, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by hitta

While a lot of people have lost faith in Pete Carmichael, I have not. I think he can be a good play-caller.

Right there with you, hitta.

K Major · 08-16-2023, 07:13 PM

Originally Posted by hitta

While a lot of people have lost faith in Pete Carmichael, I have not. I think he can be a good play-caller.

Well he has a legit QB, ELITE RB, an improving TE and some good young WRs & one that is ELITE.

There is absolutely no reason for Pete Carmichael NOT to do well in 2023.

AsylumGuido · 08-16-2023, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Well he has a legit QB, ELITE RB, an improving TE and some good young WRs & one that is ELITE.

There is absolutely no reason for Pete Carmichael NOT to do well in 2023.

And last year he had a passive backup QB, an offensive line missing all five starters at one point or another, a newly transitioning TE, and an ELITE WR on IR.

Lot's of reasons for Pete Carmichael to NOT do well in 2022.

Let's kick ass this year!

Who Dat!!

08-16-2023, 12:18 PM	#81
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: What Went Right & What Went Wrong Originally Posted by BakoSaint Lets continue: 2008 5th Round OL 2007 3rd and 4th Round OL 2006 4th and 7th Round OL Only the 3rd rounder is a bust. All three 4th/5ths start in the Super Bowl, and Strief the 7th is our top backup and eventual starter. Those picks, going oline 4 times in rounds 3-5 in a 3 year period, are as much as anything what wins us a ring. Then we go oline in the 3rd-5th only 4 times in the next 15 years. Five if you count TQS. One of those mid round picks hit on all pro Terron Armstead. Oline is 5 starting spots, about 20% of starters if you go 11+11+k+p+kr. So on average a team should pick 3 oline in rounds 3-5 every 5 years. We have hit bigger and more on those picks than any team. And since 2009 we have made less of those picks than any team. It just doesnt make sense. We paid major draft value to trade in a lunchpail oline that won it all for a primadonna oline that cant stay healthy and all we have to show for it are a lot of stanford college sweaters covered in little debbie snack crumbs. Point is you say they stopped doing it when they did it this past draft. Are you saying you want every year to draft Oline with picks 3-6 despite team needs? Or are you just looking for your typical baseless reason to bash the front office? If you’re gonna complain about drafting on the line, you’ve got much more ammunition on the Dline when they’ve had just as many if not more high rounds miss. jnormand and Rugby Saint II like this.

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08-16-2023, 03:41 PM	#83
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: What Went Right & What Went Wrong Twitter LB Anfernee Orji Highest graded defensive rookies from Preseason Week 1🔥 (Minimum 15 Snaps) pic.twitter.com/dQyhWJ4jRD — PFF College (@PFF_College) August 15, 2023 Orji (undrafted, Vanderbilt) recorded a 92.6 overall PFF player grade on 16 defensive snaps. He also led the Saints in special teams snaps played (19).

08-16-2023, 03:44 PM	#84
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: What Went Right & What Went Wrong This is why the Saints went out and got him. Twitter SmashMouth likes this.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,201 Blog Entries: 29	Re: What Went Right & What Went Wrong LOLz.... Eli Ricks. That won't last. Anfernee Orji has not been talked about that much at camp. Curious to see him play more.

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08-16-2023, 04:59 PM	#86
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: What Went Right & What Went Wrong Originally Posted by SmashMouth Anfernee Orji has not been talked about that much at camp. Curious to see him play more. Played well on special teams as well as on defense vs KC last weekend.

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hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,324	Re: What Went Right & What Went Wrong While a lot of people have lost faith in Pete Carmichael, I have not. I think he can be a good play-caller. AsylumGuido likes this.
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08-16-2023, 06:52 PM	#88
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: What Went Right & What Went Wrong Originally Posted by hitta While a lot of people have lost faith in Pete Carmichael, I have not. I think he can be a good play-caller. Right there with you, hitta.

08-16-2023, 07:13 PM	#89
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: What Went Right & What Went Wrong Originally Posted by hitta While a lot of people have lost faith in Pete Carmichael, I have not. I think he can be a good play-caller. Well he has a legit QB, ELITE RB, an improving TE and some good young WRs & one that is ELITE. There is absolutely no reason for Pete Carmichael NOT to do well in 2023. jnormand, Rugby Saint II and Boston Saint like this.

08-16-2023, 07:27 PM	#90
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: What Went Right & What Went Wrong Originally Posted by K Major Well he has a legit QB, ELITE RB, an improving TE and some good young WRs & one that is ELITE. There is absolutely no reason for Pete Carmichael NOT to do well in 2023. And last year he had a passive backup QB, an offensive line missing all five starters at one point or another, a newly transitioning TE, and an ELITE WR on IR. Lot's of reasons for Pete Carmichael to NOT do well in 2022. Let's kick ass this year! Who Dat!!