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WW_Who_Dat 09-10-2023 05:03 PM
Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Titans
 
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Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 979411)
It's not how a player looks on the field, its where we drafted them. If we drafted them high they are great and will start throughout their contract because our front office never makes mistakes. If Penning continues to struggle we will declare him injured, put him on IR with zero notice, and blame the lost season on injuries while declaring 'it's like we have an extra 1st round pick in 2024' because he will be coming back.
Calling BS on this pseudo GM intellectual analysis. No fact or foundation.

voodooido 09-10-2023 05:39 PM
Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Titans
 
Good win but our running game lacks the punch needed. We also need to find the end zone. Defense looked great as did Carr. Thomas looks like he’s healthy and motivated.

Boston Saint 09-10-2023 05:45 PM
Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Titans
 
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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 979419)
Good win but our running game lacks the punch needed. We also need to find the end zone. Defense looked great as did Carr. Thomas looks like he’s healthy and motivated.
Agree with you. As Regards to the run game I’m Hoping that:

A) Tennessee is one of the better run Ds
B) O-Line will gel The more they play together
C) Having our best RB/elevator attendant (and Miller) return we will help
D) All of the above

The Dude 09-10-2023 05:46 PM
Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Titana
 
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Originally Posted by arsaint (Post 979386)
Good - bad - and ugly

GOOD

1) DEFENSE
2) Carr - not superstar play, but played well - far more positive than negative plays.

BAD

1) Have to run the ball better
2) O-line has to play better

UGLY

1) NFL officiating still sucks
Dude we had at least 2 major calls go our way. We can’t play the penalty card today.
Oline and running game problems go hand in hand so bench Penning and we are good.

BakoSaint 09-10-2023 06:05 PM
Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Titans
 
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 979415)
Positives:
We created some Ints and won the TO battle

Grupe

Run D looks good and contained Henry for the most part

WRs looked good. We had contributions from our top 3 guys.

Carr kept his cool after the really bad Int

Negatives

Run blocking

We can’t figure out what the hell to do with Taysom Hill

Our kick and punt return teams either hold or fumble way too much.

Refs screw us as always.
We should cut Taysom Hill during the offseason. He will be 34 going into 2024. It will cost us money, but its the right thing to do. I know exactly what he is good for, having a few random monster games against bad run defenses. But we are paying Carr and Kamara to beat those teams anyway. Unfortunately we will probably restructure Hill after he generously takes a slight pay cut and defers money due to his late 30's age seasons.

Our Secondary looked amazing on the ball hawking. I would be glad to retain Allen as a defensive coordinator or secondary coach.

Carr is everything. He makes the amazing throw. He makes the 'is he blind' throw. He hits the receiver on the numbers, he hits the defender on the numbers. Sometimes he overthrows and sometimes he throws it into the ground. I would say his best attribute this game was avoiding a big mistake like a strip or throwing it up for grabs with all the pressure he saw. His one INT seemed like an unforced error, so he avoided forced errors. I am not sure Dalton or Winston could not have had a similar game, but at least it was not a distaster. To me, it looked like we have above average receivers and an average QB.

Cruize 09-10-2023 06:31 PM
Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Titans
 
-Saints win
-Thanks M. Thomas.
-Olave so smooth and quick
-Defensive pressure from the front four
-Groupe LEGIT!
-Penning got smoked .
-#22 making plays.
-Carr getting accustomed to his weapons will be big.
-Tannehill was terrible..
-Hand the ball to Henry.

K Major 09-10-2023 06:51 PM
Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Titana
 
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 979421)
Dude we had at least 2 major calls go our way. We can’t play the penalty card today.
Oline and running game problems go hand in hand so bench Penning and we are good.
Yeah I agree on the first part.

As for Penning, this is career start #2 for him. His foot speed and lateral movements need work … coach him up !

I believe he”ll improve with film study & reps.

BakoSaint 09-10-2023 07:02 PM
Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Titans
 
The whole 'Raiders stink' thing needs to be questioned. Today the Raiders beat a team of similar caliber to the Titans by 1 point with a decent but unspectacular performance by their QB. They played just about the same game as us. Carr played similar to his level of play with the Raiders. Edwards who we took the Raider stink off of didnt make the team. Moreau who we took the Raiders stink off of did not have a catch, not sure if he played. The Raiders took the Patriots and 49ers stink off Jakobi Meyers and Jimmy Garappalo and are winning their division. If we want to be dominant we need to look hard at our mistakes and correct them, not just take for granite we are some tiffany cadillac organization that can take the stink off any other uniform in the league. Also all that weight room work by Carr and Thomas, I am not sure what any of it accomplished. The football weighs 15 ounces. Work on watching tape instead.

Rugby Saint II 09-10-2023 07:29 PM
Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Titans
 
Well, aside from his his bad showing I'm exited about most of the feedback about Penning's season debut. I still feel like we got great film that with the coaches will break down at every level and then they can focus and concentrate on coaching up Penning's weaknesses/techniques early . I'm glad that we didn't pull him early on for Hurst. That big boy has to set hips hips lower to get proper leverage and work on sliding rather than anchoring and committing early to the DE.

It's just our first regular season game. 1-0 baby!

voodooido 09-10-2023 08:02 PM
Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Titans
 
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Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 979422)
We should cut Taysom Hill during the offseason. He will be 34 going into 2024. It will cost us money, but its the right thing to do. I know exactly what he is good for, having a few random monster games against bad run defenses. But we are paying Carr and Kamara to beat those teams anyway. Unfortunately we will probably restructure Hill after he generously takes a slight pay cut and defers money due to his late 30's age seasons.

Our Secondary looked amazing on the ball hawking. I would be glad to retain Allen as a defensive coordinator or secondary coach.

Carr is everything. He makes the amazing throw. He makes the 'is he blind' throw. He hits the receiver on the numbers, he hits the defender on the numbers. Sometimes he overthrows and sometimes he throws it into the ground. I would say his best attribute this game was avoiding a big mistake like a strip or throwing it up for grabs with all the pressure he saw. His one INT seemed like an unforced error, so he avoided forced errors. I am not sure Dalton or Winston could not have had a similar game, but at least it was not a distaster. To me, it looked like we have above average receivers and an average QB.

My goodness, there is no way you are a saints fan. Go somewhere else with the sky is falling crap. We are 1-0 and beat a talented titans team


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