NFL Ref’s Rule

AsylumGuido · 09-20-2023, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by vpheughan

The "Shield" was tarnished forever when former players began to appear in commercials urging you to gamble on games. That took the Sports out of the NFL being a "Sports / Entertainment" business. It's all a show! The WWNFL!
As the saying goes.............."Follow the money!"

Remember Rodger Goodell works for the owners. He is their fall guy!

Great entertainment! I love it!

Rugby Saint II · 09-20-2023, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by vpheughan

The "Shield" was tarnished forever when former players began to appear in commercials urging you to gamble on games. That took the Sports out of the NFL being a "Sports / Entertainment" business. It's all a show! The WWNFL!
As the saying goes.............."Follow the money!"

Remember Rodger Goodell works for the owners. He is their fall guy!

The integrity of the shield didn't have a price tag before Roger Godhell took control of the NFL purse strings. In fact, Paul Tagliabue had to come in and over rule Der Kommissar when he over stepped his bounds.

Good old Roger is a snake in the grass!

vpheughan · 09-20-2023, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Okay. I finally saw it. No where near as bad as THE no call, but still bad. There's probably half a dozen or more just like it every week. It's not just Payton or New Orleans. We just seem to notice those more than the others. The refs are just afraid to pull those flags at the end of games. That's not fixed. What it is is broken. Poor officiating by part time employees.

Take the "officials" out of determining the outcome of games. With all the different camera angles a questionable call could stand as called or be reversed.

Two Words : Sky Judge They see what the TV fans see.

How many times did we watch Rams cornerback Nickell Robey-Coleman hit Tommy lee Lewis while the ball was in the air?

"THAT'S ENTERTAINMENT" The NFL doesn't want "INTEGRITY" Follow the $$$$$$$$$$$$$

Boston Saint · 09-20-2023, 04:55 PM

Let’s not forget the Rams kicking a FG as time runs out to cover the spread !

AsylumGuido · 09-20-2023, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by vpheughan

Take the "officials" out of determining the outcome of games. With all the different camera angles a questionable call could stand as called or be reversed.

Two Words : Sky Judge They see what the TV fans see.

How many times did we watch Rams cornerback Nickell Robey-Coleman hit Tommy lee Lewis while the ball was in the air?

"THAT'S ENTERTAINMENT" The NFL doesn't want "INTEGRITY" Follow the $$$$$$$$$$$$$

I agree, sky judge would be an excellent solution and one that will be introduced sooner than later. Believe me, the gambling industry wants a clean game more so than us fans.

AsylumGuido · 09-20-2023, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Let’s not forget the Rams kicking a FG as time runs out to cover the spread !

That doesn't matter to the sport books. They basically get the same cut whichever side of the spread the score falls. It only affects the individual bettors.

Boston Saint · 09-20-2023, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

That doesn't matter to the sport books. They basically get the same cut whichever side of the spread the score falls. It only affects the individual bettors.

It mattered to anyone who bet on the game at 7 points

AsylumGuido · 09-20-2023, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

It mattered to anyone who bet on the game at 7 points

That's why they call it gambling. LOL!

BakoSaint · 09-20-2023, 06:06 PM

I don't trust a sky judge either. We insulted the holy brotherhood fraternity of refs when we criticized their holinesses after the no call. They will never forgive us.

The solution we should push for is AI based officiating. Technology is advancing rapidly. Sensors can be be placed in the balls and AI can consider 50 video angles in a second. The code could be open sourced. The only solution to make the refs stop hating us is to make there be no refs. This would also be much better for the game if what is considered holding, PI, etc is 100% consistent from game to game.

AsylumGuido · 09-20-2023, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

I don't trust a sky judge either. We insulted the holy brotherhood fraternity of refs when we criticized their holinesses after the no call. They will never forgive us.

The solution we should push for is AI based officiating. Technology is advancing rapidly. Sensors can be be placed in the balls and AI can consider 50 video angles in a second. The code could be open sourced. The only solution to make the refs stop hating us is to make there be no refs. This would also be much better for the game if what is considered holding, PI, etc is 100% consistent from game to game.

I get the chips in the ball approach for placement calls, but AI based visuals on PI type calls can get pretty "busy".

But I agree on using technology where feasible.

09-20-2023, 04:32 PM	#21
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: NFL Ref’s Rule Originally Posted by vpheughan The "Shield" was tarnished forever when former players began to appear in commercials urging you to gamble on games. That took the Sports out of the NFL being a "Sports / Entertainment" business. It's all a show! The WWNFL! As the saying goes.............."Follow the money!" Remember Rodger Goodell works for the owners. He is their fall guy! Great entertainment! I love it!

09-20-2023, 04:35 PM	#22
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: NFL Ref’s Rule Originally Posted by vpheughan The "Shield" was tarnished forever when former players began to appear in commercials urging you to gamble on games. That took the Sports out of the NFL being a "Sports / Entertainment" business. It's all a show! The WWNFL! As the saying goes.............."Follow the money!" Remember Rodger Goodell works for the owners. He is their fall guy! The integrity of the shield didn't have a price tag before Roger Godhell took control of the NFL purse strings. In fact, Paul Tagliabue had to come in and over rule Der Kommissar when he over stepped his bounds. Good old Roger is a snake in the grass!

09-20-2023, 04:50 PM	#23
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,524	Re: NFL Ref’s Rule Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Okay. I finally saw it. No where near as bad as THE no call, but still bad. There's probably half a dozen or more just like it every week. It's not just Payton or New Orleans. We just seem to notice those more than the others. The refs are just afraid to pull those flags at the end of games. That's not fixed. What it is is broken. Poor officiating by part time employees. Take the "officials" out of determining the outcome of games. With all the different camera angles a questionable call could stand as called or be reversed. Two Words : Sky Judge They see what the TV fans see. How many times did we watch Rams cornerback Nickell Robey-Coleman hit Tommy lee Lewis while the ball was in the air? "THAT'S ENTERTAINMENT" The NFL doesn't want "INTEGRITY" Follow the $$$$$$$$$$$$$
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09-20-2023, 04:55 PM	#24
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: NFL Ref’s Rule Let’s not forget the Rams kicking a FG as time runs out to cover the spread ! SmashMouth likes this.

09-20-2023, 05:07 PM	#25
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: NFL Ref’s Rule Originally Posted by vpheughan Take the "officials" out of determining the outcome of games. With all the different camera angles a questionable call could stand as called or be reversed. Two Words : Sky Judge They see what the TV fans see. How many times did we watch Rams cornerback Nickell Robey-Coleman hit Tommy lee Lewis while the ball was in the air? "THAT'S ENTERTAINMENT" The NFL doesn't want "INTEGRITY" Follow the $$$$$$$$$$$$$ I agree, sky judge would be an excellent solution and one that will be introduced sooner than later. Believe me, the gambling industry wants a clean game more so than us fans.

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09-20-2023, 05:12 PM	#26
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: NFL Ref’s Rule Originally Posted by Boston Saint Let’s not forget the Rams kicking a FG as time runs out to cover the spread ! That doesn't matter to the sport books. They basically get the same cut whichever side of the spread the score falls. It only affects the individual bettors.

09-20-2023, 05:21 PM	#27
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: NFL Ref’s Rule Originally Posted by AsylumGuido That doesn't matter to the sport books. They basically get the same cut whichever side of the spread the score falls. It only affects the individual bettors. It mattered to anyone who bet on the game at 7 points

09-20-2023, 05:24 PM	#28
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: NFL Ref’s Rule Originally Posted by Boston Saint It mattered to anyone who bet on the game at 7 points That's why they call it gambling. LOL!

09-20-2023, 06:06 PM	#29
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,173	Re: NFL Ref’s Rule I don't trust a sky judge either. We insulted the holy brotherhood fraternity of refs when we criticized their holinesses after the no call. They will never forgive us. The solution we should push for is AI based officiating. Technology is advancing rapidly. Sensors can be be placed in the balls and AI can consider 50 video angles in a second. The code could be open sourced. The only solution to make the refs stop hating us is to make there be no refs. This would also be much better for the game if what is considered holding, PI, etc is 100% consistent from game to game.
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09-20-2023, 06:12 PM	#30
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: NFL Ref’s Rule Originally Posted by BakoSaint I don't trust a sky judge either. We insulted the holy brotherhood fraternity of refs when we criticized their holinesses after the no call. They will never forgive us. The solution we should push for is AI based officiating. Technology is advancing rapidly. Sensors can be be placed in the balls and AI can consider 50 video angles in a second. The code could be open sourced. The only solution to make the refs stop hating us is to make there be no refs. This would also be much better for the game if what is considered holding, PI, etc is 100% consistent from game to game. I get the chips in the ball approach for placement calls, but AI based visuals on PI type calls can get pretty "busy". But I agree on using technology where feasible.