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NFL Still Has Payton Number another non call … geez.

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That was interesting

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Missed it.

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The refs screwed Denver on a 2 point conversion with 0 on the clock to tie. The Washington defender came in early with a hand pulling at the shoulder of Denver's received that turned into a full tackle as/before the pass came in. It was not as egregious as the no call but it was pass interference I believe and should have been called.

I believe the refs hate New Orleans and Payton.

I think Payton could have a chance in the long game here. If the refs screw Payton they are screwing Denver. If they screw Denver they are screwing the Walton Family. If Goodell lets the refs do that, Goodell is screwing the Walton Family. The Walton Family is rich on a level well beyond Tom or Gayle Benson, the Walton Family is the kind of rich that can give or take away other business deals in other industries that greatly affect the riches of other less rich owners. They can give other owners key introductions or recommendations that make the difference for those owners lesser businesses, or tell others not to deal with them. They can deposit or withdraw money in other owners hedge funds or banks, or put in a good word or not on the loans for their real estate ventures. They can swing a few votes in congress to affect legislation that other owners need for their other businesses. In other words if Goodell picks the refs over the Walton's, the Waltons may have the power to align enough owners to block renewal of Goodell's contract and have veto power over his replacement when his contract expires. They have the money to cash in enough favors to get those votes. Gayle and Tom just didn't.

Edit: Just to add some detail, Rob Walton is the richest owner in the NFL by a factor about 3x. He is the former Chairman of Walmart. His son in law Greg Penner is the current Chairman of Walmart and the President of the Broncos. Walmart is the #1 private employer in many states. If the refs keep messing with these people, there will be congressional hearings.

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Denver scored on a Hail Mary as the clock went to Zero.

2 point conversion to tie the game and go to OT. Denver reliever was clearly held in the end zone …no flag brings back bad memories.

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Fixed friggin game

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I’m glad Washington won today.

The more games Denver lose, the better that 2nd rd pick will be for NO.

Russ Wilson looks to be about done. They gave up a big lead too.

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After the game Payton looked about as bad as he did after the week 18 lost in 2021, his last game as head coach.

If Payton does not turn Denver around sooner than later, Coach P might flee the NFL at the end of the season … head back to Fox at $18 Million a year … or completely out tank all the other teams tanking for Caleb Williams.

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https://i.4pcdn.org/sp/1694994627023119.jpg

He does appear a lot less refreshed than he was after he quit the Saints.

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The pics of SP on the sidelines after that 'non-call' were priceless. He had a "So, what else is new?" look on his face that was vintage!

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🤷🏽*♂️

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Okay. I finally saw it. No where near as bad as THE no call, but still bad. There's probably half a dozen or more just like it every week. It's not just Payton or New Orleans. We just seem to notice those more than the others. The refs are just afraid to pull those flags at the end of games. That's not fixed. What it is is broken. Poor officiating by part time employees.

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The NFL show every week they don't care.

Zero accountability for changing the outcome of games and they never have to answer to anyone when they miss calls.

What did we get in the 2018 post season?

"Yeah the NFL admits the official did blow the call"
"Okay well what happens next?
"What do you mean? The Rams are going to the Superbowl to score 3 points whilst your season is over"

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What else would you expect from a league that can't define what a "Catch" OR "Roughing The Passer" IS? Anyone else notice how many offensive tackles take a step back juuuuuusssssst a little before the snap and don't get flagged?

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No way!?! :awe:

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Sad but true. It’s like watching old wrestling and rooting for Ricky the Dragon Steamboat when you just new Mr Fuji was gonna pull a chair out from underneath the ring while the ref wasn’t looking.

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Ah, there's a name I haven't heard in a while :bng:.

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I have never heard of it. Never saw the appeal in that wrestling "entertainment".

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The "Shield" was tarnished forever when former players began to appear in commercials urging you to gamble on games. That took the Sports out of the NFL being a "Sports / Entertainment" business. It's all a show! The WWNFL!
As the saying goes.............."Follow the money!"

Remember Rodger Goodell works for the owners. He is their fall guy!

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Great entertainment! I love it!

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The integrity of the shield didn't have a price tag before Roger Godhell took control of the NFL purse strings. In fact, Paul Tagliabue had to come in and over rule Der Kommissar when he over stepped his bounds.

Good old Roger is a snake in the grass!

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Take the "officials" out of determining the outcome of games. With all the different camera angles a questionable call could stand as called or be reversed.

Two Words : Sky Judge They see what the TV fans see.

How many times did we watch Rams cornerback Nickell Robey-Coleman hit Tommy lee Lewis while the ball was in the air?

"THAT'S ENTERTAINMENT" The NFL doesn't want "INTEGRITY" Follow the $$$$$$$$$$$$$

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Let’s not forget the Rams kicking a FG as time runs out to cover the spread !

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I agree, sky judge would be an excellent solution and one that will be introduced sooner than later. Believe me, the gambling industry wants a clean game more so than us fans.

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That doesn't matter to the sport books. They basically get the same cut whichever side of the spread the score falls. It only affects the individual bettors.

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It mattered to anyone who bet on the game at 7 points

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That's why they call it gambling. LOL!

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I don't trust a sky judge either. We insulted the holy brotherhood fraternity of refs when we criticized their holinesses after the no call. They will never forgive us.

The solution we should push for is AI based officiating. Technology is advancing rapidly. Sensors can be be placed in the balls and AI can consider 50 video angles in a second. The code could be open sourced. The only solution to make the refs stop hating us is to make there be no refs. This would also be much better for the game if what is considered holding, PI, etc is 100% consistent from game to game.

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I get the chips in the ball approach for placement calls, but AI based visuals on PI type calls can get pretty "busy".

But I agree on using technology where feasible.

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Damn, what did he do... Visit Chernobyl ?

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Yet here you are obsessing over the NFL.

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Huge difference. Two teams of close to 100 moving pieces as opposed to garish theatre for trailer park rubbish.

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Both rigged

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Then why place bets? I would assume you were way smarter than that.

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I don’t.

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I watched a replay of the punch thrown by the Niners Olineman (Williams I think) in the game last night. Dude should have been tossed. No way this game is officiated on the level.

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I did not intend for this to become a soap box it just sort of did. The tl:dr is the "integrity of the shield' is a marketing gimmick.

This should not disillusion anyone but the shield is a business venture and being founded as such has no integrity, or has no more integrity than any multi-million/billion dollar corporation. "Integrity of the Shield" is a virtue phrase used as a basis to dole out punitive action on grown men who act like children. This is just like HR requiring everyone to attend an annual Code of Business Conduct refresher. It is a facade. If the shield had integrity minorities and females wouldn't have been treated the way they were for decades.

Every action taken by the league in my lifetime has been to further advance the business, not protect the integrity of a sport, or ensure bias and bigotry did not exist within its walls. Anyone who talks about southern plantation owners making money off the backs of black slaves needs to take a hard look at the NFL, NBA, and Boxing. Sure, they get paid but the NFL is not valued at $143+BN because they shared in the spoils.

- Halftime is to generate viewership. For those that have forgotten, they sell the Half Time show, they don't choose it.
- Advancements in helmet and pad design is to mitigate litigation.
- Rules to protect the QB are to protect an investment.
- Rules to make the game more exciting are to generate viewership.
- Punishments for the supposedly illegal bounty program was to protect public image. There was not 'a bounty program', bounties were systemic in the league decades before.

At no time has any commissioner since Elmer Layden said "we need to get back to our roots".

This is Professional Wrestling with a ball and green surface (which in most cases is also fake). I know this when I watch it. The refs are doing as they are told. :bng:

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+5

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Well said Oak. And I smile every time I see your avatar.