Saints @ Packers Game Day Thread

BakoSaint · 09-24-2023, 09:40 PM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

RB and Paulson Adebo aren't the reason we loss.....I get your point definitely wasn't A-team on
the field

Kamara and Aaron Jones are comperable though we were missing Kamara and Maye due to suspensions we knew for years were coming sooner or later which is different than unexpected injury.

Jaire Alexander is more like if we were missing Lattimore, an elite pro bowl type corner, no Adebo a marginal starting corner.

Baktari or whetever his name is a big name Tackle, more equivalent to if we were missing Ramcyzk.

Watson is the Packers best receiver. More like if we were missing Olave though Olave is a little better.

I dont know that we will play a team with as many injuries as the Packers had today for the rest of the year. This was a chance. Allen blew it.

The Packers were 9-8 last year. Love is looking better than expected but in the past he looked like a bust who never impressed in limited time. So you take a 9-8 team, knock out 5 key starters, and downgrade their QB from a hall of famer to a unproven late first rounder who has looked like a bust in the past, and we can’t beat them. Yeah our QB went down for 1.5 quarters but thats bc he likes to hold the ball and our oline doesnt like to block, and we are supposed to have one of the best backups. But we lose. Typical Dennis Allen. Not a head coach this side of the Canada border.

WW_Who_Dat · 09-24-2023, 09:53 PM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

RB and Paulson Adebo aren't the reason we loss.....I get your point definitely wasn't A-team on
the field

Never said that Rells, but the slot CB that replaced Taylor in the slot because Taylor had play in place of our #2 outside CB. The replacement slot CB was picked on and gave up the go ahead TD. You can’t pick selected facts to further your talking points and not present relative FACTS when trying to further your know dislike of all things Saints.

Facts are stubborn opinions are like the tides that rise and fall.

RosieReal67

BakoSaint · 09-24-2023, 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat

Never said that Rells, but the slot CB that replaced Taylor in the slot because Taylor had play in place of our #2 outside CB. The replacement slot CB was picked on and gave up the go ahead TD. You can’t pick selected facts to further your talking points and not present relative FACTS when trying to further your know dislike of all things Saints.

Facts are stubborn opinions are like the tides that rise and fall.

RosieReal67

If only we had an alternative at slot CB. Roby was watching the game at home. Maybe he could think of one. But no, the Dennis Allen would lose face. Yidiam just needs to keep doing what he is doing if Adebo misses more time. And if Yidiam needed more help, thats something the announcers need to tell Allen and he needs some time to receive the message. What is a head coach supposed to, make adjustments in real time based on their own observations? And speaking of Taylor, he was horrible at CB2. Really obvious why we moved him to slot, started Adebo this year, and cut Roby. Taylor is clearly going to be happy as a slot corner given how he was humbled this game.

Rell&Gold · 09-24-2023, 11:42 PM

Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat

Never said that Rells, but the slot CB that replaced Taylor in the slot because Taylor had play in place of our #2 outside CB. The replacement slot CB was picked on and gave up the go ahead TD. You can’t pick selected facts to further your talking points and not present relative FACTS when trying to further your know dislike of all things Saints.

Facts are stubborn opinions are like the tides that rise and fall.

RosieReal67

Let's talk facts then. Marshon Veteran corner gave up a 2pt conversion. Demarco Davis gave up a te on fourth goal. Derek Carr Missed a TD to MT on the same play Chris Olave dropped a TD, No Pass rush with two starting oline from Greenbay out. Taylor played the slot today 27 was the outside corner on that play what are you talking about ? And he still had a good game he had multiple pass break ups today. He didn't miss tackle 1v1 On FOURTH down vs a QB.

K Major · 09-24-2023, 09:39 PM

Last time I checked the GB Packers didn’t have …

No Christian Watson
No Jaire Alexander
No Elgton Jenkins
No David Baktiari
No Aaron Jones

** key contributors & starters

Saints had a 17 point lead entering 3 quarters.

Coaching, terrible Oline play & “offensive” play calling is where people should focus on.

Can’t keep pointing at injuries.

Rell&Gold · 09-24-2023, 09:44 PM

That first down taysom playcalled killed it us fourth wasn't he time for that. Almost look like they were trying to run out the clock instead of moving the ball. This definitely on DA and Pete. The defense held for as long as a defense could. We gotta see what happens. Oline is the biggest problem hands down

BakoSaint · 09-24-2023, 09:58 PM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

That first down taysom playcalled killed it us fourth wasn't he time for that. Almost look like they were trying to run out the clock instead of moving the ball. This definitely on DA and Pete. The defense held for as long as a defense could. We gotta see what happens. Oline is the biggest problem hands down

A fair argument can be made that our offensive line is less of a weakness than our coaching staff. Whats more, its very hard to get other oline starters during the season, but experienced coaches are readily available.

Rell&Gold · 09-24-2023, 11:46 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

A fair argument can be made that our offensive line is less of a weakness than our coaching staff. Whats more, its very hard to get other oline starters during the season, but experienced coaches are readily available.

I would argue the oline is the biggest issue. And has been for a while. Coaching needs improvement too

K Major · 09-25-2023, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

I would argue the oline is the biggest issue. And has been for a while. Coaching needs improvement too

I’m probably comparing apples to oranges here but remember
when Bama was having SERIOUS O LINE issues a couple of seasons ago?

Bryce Young was the QB & was sacked over 40 times in one year.

That OLine coach was Doug Marrone

.

Saban only tolerated that nonsense for one season.

Fast forward to now …. Saints lead the league in sacked allowed and our Oline coach is Doug Marrone.

Too many talented guys upfront losing their matchups.

Bad Oline coaching in New Orleans for sure.

saintsfan1976 · 09-25-2023, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

I’m probably comparing apples to oranges here but remember
when Bama was having SERIOUS O LINE issues a couple of seasons ago?

Bryce Young was the QB & was sacked over 40 times in one year.

That OLine coach was Doug Marrone .

Saban only tolerated that nonsense for one season.

Fast forward to now …. Saints lead the league in sacked allowed and our Oline coach is Doug Marrone.

Too many talented guys upfront losing their matchups.

Bad Oline coaching in New Orleans for sure.

Excellent point.

09-24-2023, 09:40 PM	#1
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,408	Re: Saints @ Packers Game Day Thread Originally Posted by Rell&Gold RB and Paulson Adebo aren't the reason we loss.....I get your point definitely wasn't A-team on the field Kamara and Aaron Jones are comperable though we were missing Kamara and Maye due to suspensions we knew for years were coming sooner or later which is different than unexpected injury. Jaire Alexander is more like if we were missing Lattimore, an elite pro bowl type corner, no Adebo a marginal starting corner. Baktari or whetever his name is a big name Tackle, more equivalent to if we were missing Ramcyzk. Watson is the Packers best receiver. More like if we were missing Olave though Olave is a little better. I dont know that we will play a team with as many injuries as the Packers had today for the rest of the year. This was a chance. Allen blew it. The Packers were 9-8 last year. Love is looking better than expected but in the past he looked like a bust who never impressed in limited time. So you take a 9-8 team, knock out 5 key starters, and downgrade their QB from a hall of famer to a unproven late first rounder who has looked like a bust in the past, and we can’t beat them. Yeah our QB went down for 1.5 quarters but thats bc he likes to hold the ball and our oline doesnt like to block, and we are supposed to have one of the best backups. But we lose. Typical Dennis Allen. Not a head coach this side of the Canada border.
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09-24-2023, 10:06 PM	#3
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,408	Re: Saints @ Packers Game Day Thread Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat Never said that Rells, but the slot CB that replaced Taylor in the slot because Taylor had play in place of our #2 outside CB. The replacement slot CB was picked on and gave up the go ahead TD. You can’t pick selected facts to further your talking points and not present relative FACTS when trying to further your know dislike of all things Saints. Facts are stubborn opinions are like the tides that rise and fall. RosieReal67 If only we had an alternative at slot CB. Roby was watching the game at home. Maybe he could think of one. But no, the Dennis Allen would lose face. Yidiam just needs to keep doing what he is doing if Adebo misses more time. And if Yidiam needed more help, thats something the announcers need to tell Allen and he needs some time to receive the message. What is a head coach supposed to, make adjustments in real time based on their own observations? And speaking of Taylor, he was horrible at CB2. Really obvious why we moved him to slot, started Adebo this year, and cut Roby. Taylor is clearly going to be happy as a slot corner given how he was humbled this game.
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09-24-2023, 11:42 PM	#4
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: Saints @ Packers Game Day Thread Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat Never said that Rells, but the slot CB that replaced Taylor in the slot because Taylor had play in place of our #2 outside CB. The replacement slot CB was picked on and gave up the go ahead TD. You can’t pick selected facts to further your talking points and not present relative FACTS when trying to further your know dislike of all things Saints. Facts are stubborn opinions are like the tides that rise and fall. RosieReal67 Let's talk facts then. Marshon Veteran corner gave up a 2pt conversion. Demarco Davis gave up a te on fourth goal. Derek Carr Missed a TD to MT on the same play Chris Olave dropped a TD, No Pass rush with two starting oline from Greenbay out. Taylor played the slot today 27 was the outside corner on that play what are you talking about ? And he still had a good game he had multiple pass break ups today. He didn't miss tackle 1v1 On FOURTH down vs a QB.

09-24-2023, 09:39 PM	#5
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,840 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints @ Packers Game Day Thread Last time I checked the GB Packers didn’t have … No Christian Watson No Jaire Alexander No Elgton Jenkins No David Baktiari No Aaron Jones key contributors & starters Saints had a 17 point lead entering 3 quarters. Coaching, terrible Oline play** & “offensive” play calling is where people should focus on. Can’t keep pointing at injuries.

09-24-2023, 09:44 PM	#6
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: Saints @ Packers Game Day Thread That first down taysom playcalled killed it us fourth wasn't he time for that. Almost look like they were trying to run out the clock instead of moving the ball. This definitely on DA and Pete. The defense held for as long as a defense could. We gotta see what happens. Oline is the biggest problem hands down

09-24-2023, 09:53 PM	#2
WW_Who_Dat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lafayette, La and Valencia CA Posts: 1,280 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints @ Packers Game Day Thread Originally Posted by Rell&Gold RB and Paulson Adebo aren't the reason we loss.....I get your point definitely wasn't A-team on the field Never said that Rells, but the slot CB that replaced Taylor in the slot because Taylor had play in place of our #2 outside CB. The replacement slot CB was picked on and gave up the go ahead TD. You can’t pick selected facts to further your talking points and not present relative FACTS when trying to further your know dislike of all things Saints. Facts are stubborn opinions are like the tides that rise and fall. RosieReal67

09-24-2023, 09:58 PM	#7
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,408	Re: Saints @ Packers Game Day Thread Originally Posted by Rell&Gold That first down taysom playcalled killed it us fourth wasn't he time for that. Almost look like they were trying to run out the clock instead of moving the ball. This definitely on DA and Pete. The defense held for as long as a defense could. We gotta see what happens. Oline is the biggest problem hands down A fair argument can be made that our offensive line is less of a weakness than our coaching staff. Whats more, its very hard to get other oline starters during the season, but experienced coaches are readily available.
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09-24-2023, 11:46 PM	#8
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: Saints @ Packers Game Day Thread Originally Posted by BakoSaint A fair argument can be made that our offensive line is less of a weakness than our coaching staff. Whats more, its very hard to get other oline starters during the season, but experienced coaches are readily available. I would argue the oline is the biggest issue. And has been for a while. Coaching needs improvement too

09-25-2023, 09:18 AM	#9
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,840 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints @ Packers Game Day Thread Originally Posted by Rell&Gold I would argue the oline is the biggest issue. And has been for a while. Coaching needs improvement too I’m probably comparing apples to oranges here but remember when Bama was having SERIOUS O LINE issues a couple of seasons ago? Bryce Young was the QB & was sacked over 40 times in one year. That OLine coach was Doug Marrone . Saban only tolerated that nonsense for one season. Fast forward to now …. Saints lead the league in sacked allowed and our Oline coach is Doug Marrone. Too many talented guys upfront losing their matchups. Bad Oline coaching in New Orleans for sure.

09-25-2023, 09:32 AM	#10
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,046 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints @ Packers Game Day Thread Originally Posted by K Major I’m probably comparing apples to oranges here but remember when Bama was having SERIOUS O LINE issues a couple of seasons ago? Bryce Young was the QB & was sacked over 40 times in one year. That OLine coach was Doug Marrone . Saban only tolerated that nonsense for one season. Fast forward to now …. Saints lead the league in sacked allowed and our Oline coach is Doug Marrone. Too many talented guys upfront losing their matchups. Bad Oline coaching in New Orleans for sure. Excellent point.