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BakoSaint 10-03-2023 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 982267)
Now that I can see. The whole problem would be continuity at this point and that solves that issue. You can't bring in someone at this time and change everything. But you can change how what you have is used.
Carmichael demoted or fired, Curry becomes OC and calls plays, but preserves basic scheme. This would actually provide more continuity. The problem with having Curry call plays while Carmichael technically is still OC is that if it works and we win, continuity will end next year when Curry becomes the Falcons OC and we are stuck with Carmichael who cant call plays. You have to give the title if you want to protect them. Thats why we lost both DC’s from last year, we wouldnt give either the title.

K Major 10-03-2023 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 982275)
Carmichael demoted or fired, Curry becomes OC and calls plays, but preserves basic scheme. This would actually provide more continuity. The problem with having Curry call plays while Carmichael technically is still OC is that if it works and we win, continuity will end next year when Curry becomes the Falcons OC and we are stuck with Carmichael who cant call plays. You have to give the title if you want to protect them. Thats why we lost both DC’s from last year, we wouldnt give either the title.
I can't even remember when (if ever) the last time a OC was fired in season. The only guy I can recall stinking it up so badly was Bill O'Brien however he was a Head Coach.

Pete Carmichael should have never been retained after last season.

We gave the keys back to a guy driving a Bugatti with a revoked license.

BakoSaint 10-03-2023 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 982278)
I can't even remember when (if ever) the last time a OC was fired in season. The only guy I can recall stinking it up so badly was Bill O'Brien however he was a Head Coach.

Pete Carmichael should have never been retained after last season.

We gave the keys back to a guy driving a Bugatti with a revoked license.
Here is a good overview of coordinators fired in season. The Ravens fired OC Cam Cameron in season in 2012 and went on to win the Super Bowl. So it can work, but often doesnt.

https://www.si.com/.amp/nfl/2018/11/...l-austin-fired

Evn if 2/3rds it wont help, I think firing PC is worth a shot because we have to try something. If we keep playing like this and losing games to weak teams DA must go after this season. I dont care if he can bring in Andy Reid as his OC next year, I am done with DA as coach if he has a 5th losing season in a row as HC. I cant wait until after 2025 season to see if DA is the problem so thats why I prefer a new PC now. If DA wants to stick with PC fine, but if it doesnt work this year they both need to go.

voodooido 10-04-2023 04:30 PM
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Someone else needs to call the plays for the offense. With all of our weapons this is crazy

AsylumGuido 10-04-2023 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 982317)
Someone else needs to call the plays for the offense. With all of our weapons this is crazy
I agree with something saintsfan1967 pointed out earlier and that is that if things don't improve offensively very soon I'd like to see RB coach Ronald Curry be given a chance calling plays. He did it for a couple of the preseason games and I thought he did a good job.

However, the lack of motion and other such creativity in the play design is an issue, as much as is the play calling and that is on Carmichael as OC. If all you have available is vanilla that's the only flavor you are going to have to call come game time.

AsylumGuido 10-04-2023 04:40 PM
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Good insight from Kamara in this interview.


He pretty much calls out the play calling more than once in this interview.

Edit: To be honest, this is a great interview. Kamara tells it like it is.

He also mentions the frustrations with people "talking ****" about Olave quitting or giving up. ;)

Sinner 10-04-2023 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 982320)
Good insight from Kamara in this interview.

https://twitter.com/nick_underhill/s...77159701160228

He pretty much calls out the play calling more than once in this interview.

Edit: To be honest, this is a great interview. Kamara tells it like it is.

He also mentions the frustrations with people "talking ****" about Olave quitting or giving up. ;)
Problem is, it’s not up to AK to change anything, it’s a COACHING ISSUE, AND WE NEED A NEW COACH.

mapcow 10-05-2023 10:04 AM
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...this is rich.... expecting to take advice from a thug. :beatnik:

AsylumGuido 10-05-2023 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by mapcow (Post 982345)
...this is rich.... expecting to take advice from a thug. :beatnik:
I respect his opinion far more than I do yours, my cowboy friend.

:smokin:

mapcow 10-05-2023 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 982361)
I respect his opinion far more than I do yours, my cowboy friend.

:smokin:
losers usually do. :beatnik:


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