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saintsfan1976 11-27-2023 12:34 PM

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I see maybe 3 wins ahead.

leilung 11-27-2023 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 986740)
Allen needs to be gone ….

Saints “continuity” philosophy gets you EMBARRASSED on Sundays.

Dennis was terrible (HC) in Oakland, and he’s terrible (HC) in New Orleans.

Give him another year FOR WHAT?

Kamara’s call out (lots of useless talking but no action) today on Allen was needed & necessary.

Not one. Not two. But the whole damn crew!!! :brood:

iceshack149 11-27-2023 02:38 PM

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I wouldn't mind replacing Carmichael with Frank Reich and Allen with Antonio Pierce.

Rugby Saint II 11-27-2023 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 986780)
I see maybe 3 wins ahead.

I see that you're an optimist! Good luck with that record. :wink:

BakoSaint 11-27-2023 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 986790)
I see that you're an optimist! Good luck with that record. :wink:

Realistically anywhere from 0-4 wins could be reasonable for the rest of the season. The Lions are the only good team we play, and they are on a cold streak with people wondering if their QB is injured. The thing is, Dennis Allen has never been consistent as a head coach, nor Carr as a QB, so the scenario where we rack up 6 straight wins is very very unlikely. 6 straight losses if we fall apart is unlikely too, but probably not so much so, as that can always happen if a coach loses their team, and Carolina could get a spark from a coaching change. The most likely thing is that as an inconsistent team we stay inconsistent, and give 2 straight losses we are due to bounce back either against Detroit or at least against Carolina and perhaps the NYG. It would not be that surprising to see us beat Carolina, NYG, and one of the last two against Tampa and Atlanta. For remaining wins, I think the most likely scenarios in order are 3,2,1,4,0,5,6. Dennis Allen is a .250 - .500 coach. Its just who he is. Two losses in a row doesn't mean the sky is falling. Two wins in a row don't mean all the problems are solved. Boring mediocrity is his calling card.

K Major 11-27-2023 03:57 PM

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leilung 11-27-2023 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 986795)

DA and PC playing violin?

rezburna 11-27-2023 07:52 PM

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It pissed me off they still haven’t fired anybody…then they let JPP get snatched up. Fire Loomis too.

Rugby Saint II 11-28-2023 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 986810)
It pissed me off they still haven’t fired anybody…then they let JPP get snatched up. Fire Loomis too.

It will take a long time to develop continuity if we fire the OC, HC/DC & GM in one offseason. those are the kind of wholesale changes that lead to never ending seasons of top draft picks on a team going nowhere like the Browns and until recently the Lions with Dan Campbell (an ex Saint that got away).

Loomis built a contender again this year and has given Dennis Allen everything he needed to win. I don't have a problem with the organization. It's the coaches they hired to regurgitate Sean Payton's tired scheme. JPP only played one game so he isn't a big loss.

The problem is with the nepotism that has haunted us for some time. I understand that we are a family run team and not a cut throat corporation whose only reason to exist is for immediate profit. The hiring of Dennis Allen for continuity failed. So did keeping PC and hiring all bis old cronies or bringing back ex Saint coaches who failed elsewhere.

Clean house in the drafting department but not the scouting the department because they can usually find our prototypes. Fire the coaches though! and I'm talking about position coaches, coordinators and especially that inept head coach!

K Major 11-28-2023 02:16 PM

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Passive franchise.


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