Observations from the Saints win vs Colts

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A win feels good. It's an improvement . If we're to believe a former QB, Matt Leinart, now in the booth, it takes time for a QB and a new team to get their chit together. Should we believe him?

Time will tell. Let's enjoy this while we can. This sorry ass division is still up for the taking .

Who Dat !

Pete · 10-29-2023, 04:41 PM

About to turn the Corner?

BakoSaint · 10-29-2023, 04:45 PM

Dennis Allen stops Gardner Minshew. Steel sharpening steel. If this was the XFL. Now if you go on a winning streak and smack Detroit that proved something. But to trade games .500 with a bunch of mediocre to bad teams while having a weak schedule, it just proves mediocrity.

Rashid Shaheed is the best player on this offense. He should not be listed as 2nd team while Olave gets more targets than his attention span can handle. Making Shaheed the #1 featured receiver would improve the whole offense. Shaheed is proven statistically as fast as Tyreek Hill. When he draws the #1 corners it won't matter because even the #1 corners can't handle that speed, but it will take the #1 corners off Thomas and Olave/Perry and allow them to perform better too.

Olave may be suffering from imposter syndrome. He goes to practice, he sees Shaheed outperform him in practice every day, and then Sunday roles around and he gets all the targets above Shaheed, and he knows he doesn't belong. But if Olave is demoted to the #2/3/4 receiver range, he may gain confidence, and perform better, because he won't have to feel like he is being forced into a role where he doesn't belong with unreasonable expectations to outperform a generational talent.

Sinner · 10-29-2023, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

Dennis Allen stops Gardner Minshew. Steel sharpening steel. If this was the XFL. Now if you go on a winning streak and smack Detroit that proved something. But to trade games .500 with a bunch of mediocre to bad teams while having a weak schedule, it just proves mediocrity.

Rashid Shaheed is the best player on this offense. He should not be listed as 2nd team while Olave gets more targets than his attention span can handle. Making Shaheed the #1 featured receiver would improve the whole offense. Shaheed is proven statistically as fast as Tyreek Hill. When he draws the #1 corners it won't matter because even the #1 corners can't handle that speed, but it will take the #1 corners off Thomas and Olave/Perry and allow them to perform better too.

Olave may be suffering from imposter syndrome. He goes to practice, he sees Shaheed outperform him in practice every day, and then Sunday roles around and he gets all the targets above Shaheed, and he knows he doesn't belong. But if Olave is demoted to the #2/3/4 receiver range, he may gain confidence, and perform better.

We have a talented team, desperately in need of a new Coaching Staff.

dizzle88 · 10-29-2023, 04:50 PM

Shaheed is everything Olave was drafted to be.

Olave just lacks any form of awareness, he threw his hands up when Carr missed him last week. Then drops the easiest TD this week.

Shaheed is an absolute baller. We need to lock him up to an extension soon.

Defense was extremely sloppy. Allowing 19 yards on 3rd and 18. Missing tackles, penalties, dropping multiple interceptions.

Paulson Adebo played a good game.

The safeties that allowed that late TD almost messed everything up.

rezburna · 10-29-2023, 05:22 PM

First of all, there is no, truly dominant NFL team. Everyone is beatable. Keep getting better.

Olave doesn’t concern me. Carr isn’t on the same page with any of our receivers except Shaheed. We saw him miss Thomas on two easy slants. He misses Olave all the time. I saw Olave running wide open three times last week, so I’m not surprised he’s not expecting the ball. Carr missed him on an easy throw the very next play but that was ignored because the new flavor of the week is Olave = BAD MAN. That Shaheed TD happens because of Olave and the attention he draws. He has more separation on his routes than any of our receivers.

We should utilize Shaheed more though. Olave and Shaheed should be 1A and 1B.

Defense gotta be more dominant. Need another pass rusher opposite Granderson. Kick Cam Jordan inside.

Like the usage of Hill this week. That’s more like it. Good job in the red zone. We’re back tied for 1st. Keep going.

Halo · 10-29-2023, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

There is no, truly dominant NFL team. Everyone is beatable. Keep getting better. Olave doesn’t concern me. Carr isn’t on the same page with any of our receivers. We saw him miss Thomas on two easy slants. He missed Olave all the time. I saw Olave running wide open three times last week, so I’m not surprised he’s not expecting the ball. Carr missed him on an easy throw the very next play but that was ignored because the new flavor of the week is Olave = BAD MAN. That Shaheed TD happens because of Olave and the attention he draws. He has more separation on his routes than any of our receivers. Defense gotta be more dominant. Need another pass rusher opposite Granderson. Kick Cam Jordan inside. Like the usage of Hill this week. That’s more like it. Good job in the red zone. We’re back tied for 1st. Keep going.

THIS IS REAL AND TRUE!
I only disagree on 1 point. Carr is somehow on the same page with Shaheed. Olave and MT, Carr struggles. Crazy. Just keep getting better. I've watched some "unstoppable" teams lay some eggs. It's the NFL.

Sinner · 10-29-2023, 05:38 PM

HILL. KAMARA. SHAHEED.

THESE MEN CAME TO PLAY TODAY.

rezburna · 10-29-2023, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by Sinner

HILL. KAMARA. SHAHEED.

THESE MEN CAME TO PLAY TODAY.

Speaking of Kamara, a crossing route to clear out with Kamara on a Texas coming right behind it is easy yards whenever they want it.

BakoSaint · 10-29-2023, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

First of all, there is no, truly dominant NFL team. Everyone is beatable. Keep getting better.

Olave doesn’t concern me. Carr isn’t on the same page with any of our receivers except Shaheed. We saw him miss Thomas on two easy slants. He misses Olave all the time. I saw Olave running wide open three times last week, so I’m not surprised he’s not expecting the ball. Carr missed him on an easy throw the very next play but that was ignored because the new flavor of the week is Olave = BAD MAN. That Shaheed TD happens because of Olave and the attention he draws. He has more separation on his routes than any of our receivers.

We should utilize Shaheed more though. Olave and Shaheed should be 1A and 1B.

Defense gotta be more dominant. Need another pass rusher opposite Granderson. Kick Cam Jordan inside.

Like the usage of Hill this week. That’s more like it. Good job in the red zone. We’re back tied for 1st. Keep going.

Everyone is beatable in 1 game but we are not getting a ring. It's like Shaq could sometimes get lucky and make a shot from half court, but Shaq is not making 4 consecutive shots from half court. Us beating 4 playoff quality teams to win a ring would be like that. We have not beat a winning team this year. We are like Shaq making 4 of 8 free throws and now saying he can't miss from half court. We face the easiest schedule in the league that will not prepare us for the playoffs. We are an aging inconsistent .500 team against an all-time weak schedule that never plays dominantly except against gutter teams, squeaking out close wins and losses against mediocre teams, with a vulnerable oline, a middle of the road qb, a mediocre pass rush, a head coach who has never won a playoff game in 6 or so years career, a QB who has never won a playoff game in 10+ years career. Any given Sunday sure. Maybe Dallas or SF sleeps on us and has some injuries and we somehow pull out a miracle. The next week its Philly or Detroit and we are on the road again. It just isn't happening. Teams like this don't win it all.

There are not teams that are always dominant in the league but there are teams who often dominate and are capable of dominating or at least beating very good teams for 3-4 consecutive games in the playoffs. We are just not one of those teams. We are not capable of being dominant for a month. We are barely capable of stringing together 2 consecutive wins against the worst of the league.

10-29-2023, 04:45 PM	#3
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,135	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Colts Dennis Allen stops Gardner Minshew. Steel sharpening steel. If this was the XFL. Now if you go on a winning streak and smack Detroit that proved something. But to trade games .500 with a bunch of mediocre to bad teams while having a weak schedule, it just proves mediocrity. Rashid Shaheed is the best player on this offense. He should not be listed as 2nd team while Olave gets more targets than his attention span can handle. Making Shaheed the #1 featured receiver would improve the whole offense. Shaheed is proven statistically as fast as Tyreek Hill. When he draws the #1 corners it won't matter because even the #1 corners can't handle that speed, but it will take the #1 corners off Thomas and Olave/Perry and allow them to perform better too. Olave may be suffering from imposter syndrome. He goes to practice, he sees Shaheed outperform him in practice every day, and then Sunday roles around and he gets all the targets above Shaheed, and he knows he doesn't belong. But if Olave is demoted to the #2/3/4 receiver range, he may gain confidence, and perform better, because he won't have to feel like he is being forced into a role where he doesn't belong with unreasonable expectations to outperform a generational talent. Sinner likes this.
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10-29-2023, 04:47 PM	#4
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,875	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Colts Originally Posted by BakoSaint Dennis Allen stops Gardner Minshew. Steel sharpening steel. If this was the XFL. Now if you go on a winning streak and smack Detroit that proved something. But to trade games .500 with a bunch of mediocre to bad teams while having a weak schedule, it just proves mediocrity. Rashid Shaheed is the best player on this offense. He should not be listed as 2nd team while Olave gets more targets than his attention span can handle. Making Shaheed the #1 featured receiver would improve the whole offense. Shaheed is proven statistically as fast as Tyreek Hill. When he draws the #1 corners it won't matter because even the #1 corners can't handle that speed, but it will take the #1 corners off Thomas and Olave/Perry and allow them to perform better too. Olave may be suffering from imposter syndrome. He goes to practice, he sees Shaheed outperform him in practice every day, and then Sunday roles around and he gets all the targets above Shaheed, and he knows he doesn't belong. But if Olave is demoted to the #2/3/4 receiver range, he may gain confidence, and perform better. We have a talented team, desperately in need of a new Coaching Staff. Rugby Saint II and mapcow like this.
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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Colts Shaheed is everything Olave was drafted to be. Olave just lacks any form of awareness, he threw his hands up when Carr missed him last week. Then drops the easiest TD this week. Shaheed is an absolute baller. We need to lock him up to an extension soon. Defense was extremely sloppy. Allowing 19 yards on 3rd and 18. Missing tackles, penalties, dropping multiple interceptions. Paulson Adebo played a good game. The safeties that allowed that late TD almost messed everything up. Sinner and shawnkytonk like this.

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Colts First of all, there is no, truly dominant NFL team. Everyone is beatable. Keep getting better. Olave doesn’t concern me. Carr isn’t on the same page with any of our receivers except Shaheed. We saw him miss Thomas on two easy slants. He misses Olave all the time. I saw Olave running wide open three times last week, so I’m not surprised he’s not expecting the ball. Carr missed him on an easy throw the very next play but that was ignored because the new flavor of the week is Olave = BAD MAN. That Shaheed TD happens because of Olave and the attention he draws. He has more separation on his routes than any of our receivers. We should utilize Shaheed more though. Olave and Shaheed should be 1A and 1B. Defense gotta be more dominant. Need another pass rusher opposite Granderson. Kick Cam Jordan inside. Like the usage of Hill this week. That’s more like it. Good job in the red zone. We’re back tied for 1st. Keep going. Halo, Crusader, SmashMouth and 2 others like this.
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10-29-2023, 05:26 PM	#7
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,603 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Colts Originally Posted by rezburna There is no, truly dominant NFL team. Everyone is beatable. Keep getting better. Olave doesn’t concern me. Carr isn’t on the same page with any of our receivers. We saw him miss Thomas on two easy slants. He missed Olave all the time. I saw Olave running wide open three times last week, so I’m not surprised he’s not expecting the ball. Carr missed him on an easy throw the very next play but that was ignored because the new flavor of the week is Olave = BAD MAN. That Shaheed TD happens because of Olave and the attention he draws. He has more separation on his routes than any of our receivers. Defense gotta be more dominant. Need another pass rusher opposite Granderson. Kick Cam Jordan inside. Like the usage of Hill this week. That’s more like it. Good job in the red zone. We’re back tied for 1st. Keep going. THIS IS REAL AND TRUE! I only disagree on 1 point. Carr is somehow on the same page with Shaheed. Olave and MT, Carr struggles. Crazy. Just keep getting better. I've watched some "unstoppable" teams lay some eggs. It's the NFL. Crusader, rezburna and shawnkytonk like this.

10-29-2023, 04:33 PM	#1
Threaded by SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,123 Blog Entries: 29 Rating: (0 votes - average) A win feels good. It's an improvement . If we're to believe a former QB, Matt Leinart, now in the booth, it takes time for a QB and a new team to get their chit together. Should we believe him? Time will tell. Let's enjoy this while we can. This sorry ass division is still up for the taking . Who Dat ! Attached Thumbnails Halo, iceshack149 and Pete like this. Last edited by Halo; 10-29-2023 at 04:44 PM..
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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Colts Originally Posted by Sinner HILL. KAMARA. SHAHEED. THESE MEN CAME TO PLAY TODAY. Speaking of Kamara, a crossing route to clear out with Kamara on a Texas coming right behind it is easy yards whenever they want it. SmashMouth and Sinner like this.

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BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,135	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Colts Originally Posted by rezburna First of all, there is no, truly dominant NFL team. Everyone is beatable. Keep getting better. Olave doesn’t concern me. Carr isn’t on the same page with any of our receivers except Shaheed. We saw him miss Thomas on two easy slants. He misses Olave all the time. I saw Olave running wide open three times last week, so I’m not surprised he’s not expecting the ball. Carr missed him on an easy throw the very next play but that was ignored because the new flavor of the week is Olave = BAD MAN. That Shaheed TD happens because of Olave and the attention he draws. He has more separation on his routes than any of our receivers. We should utilize Shaheed more though. Olave and Shaheed should be 1A and 1B. Defense gotta be more dominant. Need another pass rusher opposite Granderson. Kick Cam Jordan inside. Like the usage of Hill this week. That’s more like it. Good job in the red zone. We’re back tied for 1st. Keep going. Everyone is beatable in 1 game but we are not getting a ring. It's like Shaq could sometimes get lucky and make a shot from half court, but Shaq is not making 4 consecutive shots from half court. Us beating 4 playoff quality teams to win a ring would be like that. We have not beat a winning team this year. We are like Shaq making 4 of 8 free throws and now saying he can't miss from half court. We face the easiest schedule in the league that will not prepare us for the playoffs. We are an aging inconsistent .500 team against an all-time weak schedule that never plays dominantly except against gutter teams, squeaking out close wins and losses against mediocre teams, with a vulnerable oline, a middle of the road qb, a mediocre pass rush, a head coach who has never won a playoff game in 6 or so years career, a QB who has never won a playoff game in 10+ years career. Any given Sunday sure. Maybe Dallas or SF sleeps on us and has some injuries and we somehow pull out a miracle. The next week its Philly or Detroit and we are on the road again. It just isn't happening. Teams like this don't win it all. There are not teams that are always dominant in the league but there are teams who often dominate and are capable of dominating or at least beating very good teams for 3-4 consecutive games in the playoffs. We are just not one of those teams. We are not capable of being dominant for a month. We are barely capable of stringing together 2 consecutive wins against the worst of the league. Sinner likes this.
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