Josh McDaniels as OC or offensive consultant?

Danno · 11-04-2023, 09:51 AM

I wonder how everyone would feel if Allen and Pete won a playoff game this year, or perhaps made it to the NFCCG?

Keep or cut?

AsylumGuido · 11-05-2023, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

I wonder how everyone would feel if Allen and Pete won a playoff game this year, or perhaps made it to the NFCCG?

Keep or cut?

It doesn't what any of us think, really. If we make the playoffs I'll bet you that both will return. Personally, I'd be okay with Carmichael being replaced, but I don't see it happening unless we make the playoffs with a losing record. And I don't see us winning less than nine.

Rugby Saint II · 11-09-2023, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

It doesn't what any of us think, really. If we make the playoffs I'll bet you that both will return. Personally, I'd be okay with Carmichael being replaced, but I don't see it happening unless we make the playoffs with a losing record. And I don't see us winning less than nine.

So, if Alen takes a well built team and finishes with a 9-8 record and a playoff win then should he get another chance at mediocrity?

AsylumGuido · 11-09-2023, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

So, if Alen takes a well built team and finishes with a 9-8 record and a playoff win then should he get another chance at mediocrity?

It doesn't matter if he should or not. Nothing any of us can do about it. It doesn't bother me because I know I have no say in the decision one way or another. Worrying about something that I have no control over is a waste of my time and energy. All I can do is hope for the best and remain positive. Life is too short to stress over things that you cannot control.

BakoSaint · 11-09-2023, 09:27 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I wonder how everyone would feel if Allen and Pete won a playoff game this year, or perhaps made it to the NFCCG?

Keep or cut?

I would feel the same way if Allen made it to the NFCCG as if Adam Prentice led the NFL in total yards from scrimmage this season. It would be great and all, but when I say its not gonna happen, its not that I am rooting against Adam Prentice, its just not consistent with what I have seen of his abilities.

AsylumGuido · 11-10-2023, 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

I would feel the same way if Allen made it to the NFCCG as if Adam Prentice led the NFL in total yards from scrimmage this season. It would be great and all, but when I say its not gonna happen, its not that I am rooting against Adam Prentice, its just not consistent with what I have seen of his abilities.

Prentice isn't a RB. He's a FB. His primary job is blocking. He only has eight career carries and eight career targets. He has, however, caught seven of those eight targets.

Allen is, however, an actual head coach of a team leading their division with a good shot at making the playoffs. Making it to the NFC championship game is a realistic possibility.

BakoSaint · 11-14-2023, 10:19 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Prentice isn't a RB. He's a FB. His primary job is blocking. He only has eight career carries and eight career targets. He has, however, caught seven of those eight targets.

Allen is, however, an actual head coach of a team leading their division with a good shot at making the playoffs. Making it to the NFC championship game is a realistic possibility.

Dennis Allen is only the actual head coach because some idiot looked at his 8-28 record with the Raiders and said lets hire that guy. This is not really any different than if an idiot had happened to see Adam Prentice's career average of 2.4 yards per carry and said lets make that guy our feature back and feed him 30 carries a game. 8-28 = 2.4ypc. Now can Prentice block, sure. Can DA coordinate a defense, sure. But promoting either beyond that is a mistake. Its just a matter of chance that we decided to make that mistake with DA not Prentice.

DA has us leading one of the weakest divisions in NFL history with one one of the weakest scheduled in NFL History with a .500 record bought with one of the most costly teams in NFL History in terms of the present and future dollars we have allocated, leading the league in 2024 money committed to win now in 2023. We may very well make the playoffs, but Kool Aid ain't gonna win us any playoff games unless Jim Jones is mixing it for all our opponents. We are 1 of 12 under DA against teams with a winning record. If we make the playoffs as division winner we will likely play only winning teams in the playoffs, such as the top wildcard like the Cowboys in Round 1 and a superior division winner in Round 2 like SF or Det. Our odds under DA are 1 in 12 in each of those games. So, if we make the playoffs, I would put our odds of playing in the NFC Championship game at 1 in 144.

AsylumGuido · 11-15-2023, 11:15 AM

jnormand · 11-09-2023, 11:26 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I wonder how everyone would feel if Allen and Pete won a playoff game this year, or perhaps made it to the NFCCG?

Keep or cut?

If he wins a playoff game, he is gonna get another season.

Makes it to the championship game? **** bro, I’ll buy underwear with his name on it.

iceshack149 · 11-10-2023, 01:03 AM

Originally Posted by jnormand

If he wins a playoff game, he is gonna get another season.

Makes it to the championship game? **** bro, I’ll buy underwear with his name on it.

Might make Guido jealous but he would be the one who knows how to get that underwear.

11-04-2023, 09:51 AM	#1
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11-05-2023, 11:16 AM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,762	Re: Josh McDaniels as OC or offensive consultant? Originally Posted by Danno I wonder how everyone would feel if Allen and Pete won a playoff game this year, or perhaps made it to the NFCCG? Keep or cut? It doesn't what any of us think, really. If we make the playoffs I'll bet you that both will return. Personally, I'd be okay with Carmichael being replaced, but I don't see it happening unless we make the playoffs with a losing record. And I don't see us winning less than nine.

11-09-2023, 12:36 PM	#3
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,198	Re: Josh McDaniels as OC or offensive consultant? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido It doesn't what any of us think, really. If we make the playoffs I'll bet you that both will return. Personally, I'd be okay with Carmichael being replaced, but I don't see it happening unless we make the playoffs with a losing record. And I don't see us winning less than nine. So, if Alen takes a well built team and finishes with a 9-8 record and a playoff win then should he get another chance at mediocrity?

11-09-2023, 01:39 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,762	Re: Josh McDaniels as OC or offensive consultant? Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II So, if Alen takes a well built team and finishes with a 9-8 record and a playoff win then should he get another chance at mediocrity? It doesn't matter if he should or not. Nothing any of us can do about it. It doesn't bother me because I know I have no say in the decision one way or another. Worrying about something that I have no control over is a waste of my time and energy. All I can do is hope for the best and remain positive. Life is too short to stress over things that you cannot control.

11-09-2023, 09:27 PM	#5
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,424	Re: Josh McDaniels as OC or offensive consultant? Originally Posted by Danno I wonder how everyone would feel if Allen and Pete won a playoff game this year, or perhaps made it to the NFCCG? Keep or cut? I would feel the same way if Allen made it to the NFCCG as if Adam Prentice led the NFL in total yards from scrimmage this season. It would be great and all, but when I say its not gonna happen, its not that I am rooting against Adam Prentice, its just not consistent with what I have seen of his abilities.
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11-10-2023, 08:22 AM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,762	Re: Josh McDaniels as OC or offensive consultant? Originally Posted by BakoSaint I would feel the same way if Allen made it to the NFCCG as if Adam Prentice led the NFL in total yards from scrimmage this season. It would be great and all, but when I say its not gonna happen, its not that I am rooting against Adam Prentice, its just not consistent with what I have seen of his abilities. Prentice isn't a RB. He's a FB. His primary job is blocking. He only has eight career carries and eight career targets. He has, however, caught seven of those eight targets. Allen is, however, an actual head coach of a team leading their division with a good shot at making the playoffs. Making it to the NFC championship game is a realistic possibility.

11-14-2023, 10:19 PM	#7
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,424	Re: Josh McDaniels as OC or offensive consultant? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Prentice isn't a RB. He's a FB. His primary job is blocking. He only has eight career carries and eight career targets. He has, however, caught seven of those eight targets. Allen is, however, an actual head coach of a team leading their division with a good shot at making the playoffs. Making it to the NFC championship game is a realistic possibility. Dennis Allen is only the actual head coach because some idiot looked at his 8-28 record with the Raiders and said lets hire that guy. This is not really any different than if an idiot had happened to see Adam Prentice's career average of 2.4 yards per carry and said lets make that guy our feature back and feed him 30 carries a game. 8-28 = 2.4ypc. Now can Prentice block, sure. Can DA coordinate a defense, sure. But promoting either beyond that is a mistake. Its just a matter of chance that we decided to make that mistake with DA not Prentice. DA has us leading one of the weakest divisions in NFL history with one one of the weakest scheduled in NFL History with a .500 record bought with one of the most costly teams in NFL History in terms of the present and future dollars we have allocated, leading the league in 2024 money committed to win now in 2023. We may very well make the playoffs, but Kool Aid ain't gonna win us any playoff games unless Jim Jones is mixing it for all our opponents. We are 1 of 12 under DA against teams with a winning record. If we make the playoffs as division winner we will likely play only winning teams in the playoffs, such as the top wildcard like the Cowboys in Round 1 and a superior division winner in Round 2 like SF or Det. Our odds under DA are 1 in 12 in each of those games. So, if we make the playoffs, I would put our odds of playing in the NFC Championship game at 1 in 144.
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jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,781	Re: Josh McDaniels as OC or offensive consultant? Originally Posted by Danno I wonder how everyone would feel if Allen and Pete won a playoff game this year, or perhaps made it to the NFCCG? Keep or cut? If he wins a playoff game, he is gonna get another season. Makes it to the championship game? **** bro, I’ll buy underwear with his name on it.

11-10-2023, 01:03 AM	#10
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,441 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Josh McDaniels as OC or offensive consultant? Originally Posted by jnormand If he wins a playoff game, he is gonna get another season. Makes it to the championship game? **** bro, I’ll buy underwear with his name on it. Might make Guido jealous but he would be the one who knows how to get that underwear.