Poll: If you could fire one today?

Sinner · 11-29-2023, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

So most voted for Pete C. The guy who didn't even want the job but the substitute teacher hired him anyway.

Shocking.

People tend to reach for a fly swatter, when the whole house needs to be demolished.

Rugby Saint II · 11-29-2023, 06:12 PM

If we fire Dennis Allen and get a new captain then the ship might right itself.

Sinner · 11-30-2023, 10:13 AM

Loomis said “We have the right people in the building.” So there’s our problem.

K Major · 11-30-2023, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by Sinner

Loomis said “We have the right people in the building.” So there’s our problem.

FWIW, I voted for the Mickster Loomis in this poll. It's comments like this that make me wonder what the hell are we doing here

?

He needs to geaux too.

neugey · 11-30-2023, 11:00 AM

I've been thinking that with all the gaslighting and arrogance Mickey Loomis would've made a great televangelist. The guy missed his calling.

stickman · 11-30-2023, 02:52 PM

I voted for Pete due to the way the question is phrased. Fire one, the rest get the remainder of the season, I fire Pete. Firing Loomis won't help this offense in the middle of the season. let someone else call the plays and see what happens and then you can clean house when the season is over.

Mr.Riaton · 11-30-2023, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by stickman

I voted for Pete due to the way the question is phrased. Fire one, the rest get the remainder of the season, I fire Pete. Firing Loomis won't help this offense in the middle of the season. let someone else call the plays and see what happens and then you can clean house when the season is over.

I get what you’re saying, but I think Pete is the least problematic here of the issues we’re having. Don’t get me wrong, I want him gone, but solely on the fact that I feel we’re boring and predictable. However there still are receivers getting open and touchdowns being missed and that’s solely on Carr. And the fact that Carr is not being benched is on Allen- which he clearly stated weeks ago that he would sit anyone who wasn’t putting in full effort and executing, it didn’t matter who they were. And Allen doesn’t seem to have accountability for not fixing blatant issues which is on….you guessed it! The ol mickster.
It starts at the top. Even in mid season I would put the hammer down on our GM…especially with that garbage comment he made about having the right people in place. That’s where the problem lies imo. The season is pretty much wasted at anyways at the rate we’re going, great time to send a major message.

Sinner · 11-30-2023, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton

I get what you’re saying, but I think Pete is the least problematic here of the issues we’re having. Don’t get me wrong, I want him gone, but solely on the fact that I feel we’re boring and predictable. However there still are receivers getting open and touchdowns being missed and that’s solely on Carr. And the fact that Carr is not being benched is on Allen- which he clearly stated weeks ago that he would sit anyone who wasn’t putting in full effort and executing, it didn’t matter who they were. And Allen doesn’t seem to have accountability for not fixing blatant issues which is on….you guessed it! The ol mickster.
It starts at the top. Even in mid season I would put the hammer down on our GM…especially with that garbage comment he made about having the right people in place. That’s where the problem lies imo. The season is pretty much wasted at anyways at the rate we’re going, great time to send a major message.

Yeah, fixing the offense in the middle of THIS season, would just be one bandaid on a team that is dancing with a wood chipper that looks like it ain’t going anywhere soon.

iceshack149 · 12-01-2023, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by Sinner

Loomis said “We have the right people in the building.” So there’s our problem.

Originally Posted by K Major

FWIW, I voted for the Mickster Loomis in this poll. It's comments like this that make me wonder what the hell are we doing here ?

He needs to geaux too.

Originally Posted by neugey

I've been thinking that with all the gaslighting and arrogance Mickey Loomis would've made a great televangelist. The guy missed his calling.

In Loomis' spot his only play at this point is to say that he's made the right choices with the Saints coaches. He can't really say that these beta boys are trash (though he should let them both go). I'm hoping that Loomis knows that this product is garbage and will clean house sooner rather than later.

Despite the fact that these coaches aren't leaders of men, I think the most egregious failure is Carmichael. He should be able to do something with this offense but it suuucks.

Rugby Saint II · 12-01-2023, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

In Loomis' spot his only play at this point is to say that he's made the right choices with the Saints coaches. He can't really say that these beta boys are trash (though he should let them both go). I'm hoping that Loomis knows that this product is garbage and will clean house sooner rather than later.

Despite the fact that these coaches aren't leaders of men, I think the most egregious failure is Carmichael. He should be able to do something with this offense but it suuucks.

Unfortunately, Pete won't be fired until after the season as a scapegoat while Allen and company get another year of mediocrity. When in reality, we need new coaching from the top down. Yes, we have a couple of good position coaches but everybody else needs to be on the chopping block!

View Poll Results: If you could only fire one today, and had to give the rest this season to turn it around?
Dennis Allen	13	41.94%
Pete Carmichael	10	32.26%
Derek Carr	0	0%
Mickey Loomis	6	19.35%
Nobody, we could still win it all!	2	6.45%
Voters: 31. You may not vote on this poll

11-29-2023, 04:47 PM	#11
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,874	Re: Poll: If you could fire one today? Originally Posted by K Major So most voted for Pete C. The guy who didn't even want the job but the substitute teacher hired him anyway. Shocking. People tend to reach for a fly swatter, when the whole house needs to be demolished. K Major likes this.
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11-29-2023, 06:12 PM	#12
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11-30-2023, 10:13 AM	#13
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,874	Re: Poll: If you could fire one today? Loomis said “We have the right people in the building.” So there’s our problem. neugey, K Major and Mr.Riaton like this.
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11-30-2023, 10:23 AM	#14
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Poll: If you could fire one today? Originally Posted by Sinner Loomis said “We have the right people in the building.” So there’s our problem. FWIW, I voted for the Mickster Loomis in this poll. It's comments like this that make me wonder what the hell are we doing here ? He needs to geaux too. Mr.Riaton likes this.

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11-30-2023, 11:00 AM	#15
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,697 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Poll: If you could fire one today? I've been thinking that with all the gaslighting and arrogance Mickey Loomis would've made a great televangelist. The guy missed his calling. K Major likes this.

11-30-2023, 02:52 PM	#16
stickman 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Gonzales, LA Posts: 1,680	Re: Poll: If you could fire one today? I voted for Pete due to the way the question is phrased. Fire one, the rest get the remainder of the season, I fire Pete. Firing Loomis won't help this offense in the middle of the season. let someone else call the plays and see what happens and then you can clean house when the season is over. AsylumGuido likes this.

11-30-2023, 04:54 PM	#17
Mr.Riaton 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Broussard,La. Posts: 1,264	Re: Poll: If you could fire one today? Originally Posted by stickman I voted for Pete due to the way the question is phrased. Fire one, the rest get the remainder of the season, I fire Pete. Firing Loomis won't help this offense in the middle of the season. let someone else call the plays and see what happens and then you can clean house when the season is over. I get what you’re saying, but I think Pete is the least problematic here of the issues we’re having. Don’t get me wrong, I want him gone, but solely on the fact that I feel we’re boring and predictable. However there still are receivers getting open and touchdowns being missed and that’s solely on Carr. And the fact that Carr is not being benched is on Allen- which he clearly stated weeks ago that he would sit anyone who wasn’t putting in full effort and executing, it didn’t matter who they were. And Allen doesn’t seem to have accountability for not fixing blatant issues which is on….you guessed it! The ol mickster. It starts at the top. Even in mid season I would put the hammer down on our GM…especially with that garbage comment he made about having the right people in place. That’s where the problem lies imo. The season is pretty much wasted at anyways at the rate we’re going, great time to send a major message. Sinner likes this.

11-30-2023, 07:26 PM	#18
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,874	Re: Poll: If you could fire one today? Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton I get what you’re saying, but I think Pete is the least problematic here of the issues we’re having. Don’t get me wrong, I want him gone, but solely on the fact that I feel we’re boring and predictable. However there still are receivers getting open and touchdowns being missed and that’s solely on Carr. And the fact that Carr is not being benched is on Allen- which he clearly stated weeks ago that he would sit anyone who wasn’t putting in full effort and executing, it didn’t matter who they were. And Allen doesn’t seem to have accountability for not fixing blatant issues which is on….you guessed it! The ol mickster. It starts at the top. Even in mid season I would put the hammer down on our GM…especially with that garbage comment he made about having the right people in place. That’s where the problem lies imo. The season is pretty much wasted at anyways at the rate we’re going, great time to send a major message. Yeah, fixing the offense in the middle of THIS season, would just be one bandaid on a team that is dancing with a wood chipper that looks like it ain’t going anywhere soon. K Major likes this.
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12-01-2023, 03:14 PM	#19
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,258 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Poll: If you could fire one today? Originally Posted by Sinner Loomis said “We have the right people in the building.” So there’s our problem. Originally Posted by K Major FWIW, I voted for the Mickster Loomis in this poll. It's comments like this that make me wonder what the hell are we doing here ? He needs to geaux too. Originally Posted by neugey I've been thinking that with all the gaslighting and arrogance Mickey Loomis would've made a great televangelist. The guy missed his calling. In Loomis' spot his only play at this point is to say that he's made the right choices with the Saints coaches. He can't really say that these beta boys are trash (though he should let them both go). I'm hoping that Loomis knows that this product is garbage and will clean house sooner rather than later. Despite the fact that these coaches aren't leaders of men, I think the most egregious failure is Carmichael. He should be able to do something with this offense but it suuucks. Rugby Saint II likes this.

12-01-2023, 04:17 PM	#20
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Poll: If you could fire one today? Originally Posted by iceshack149 In Loomis' spot his only play at this point is to say that he's made the right choices with the Saints coaches. He can't really say that these beta boys are trash (though he should let them both go). I'm hoping that Loomis knows that this product is garbage and will clean house sooner rather than later. Despite the fact that these coaches aren't leaders of men, I think the most egregious failure is Carmichael. He should be able to do something with this offense but it suuucks. Unfortunately, Pete won't be fired until after the season as a scapegoat while Allen and company get another year of mediocrity. When in reality, we need new coaching from the top down. Yes, we have a couple of good position coaches but everybody else needs to be on the chopping block!