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SmashMouth 12-11-2023 03:14 PM

Observation from the Saints' Playoff Chances with Four Games Left
 
3 of the 4 are at home, one in L.A.
Two are division rivals.
IF... and that's a really big IF, we win four straight, our record is 10-7 .
It would be DA's first ever winning season. Many Saints fans would commit hari-kari.
DC4's first playoff, maybe.
We'd get wiped out in the first game.

Would it be worth it? :bng:

Sinner 12-11-2023 03:25 PM

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It’s a slow Hari-Kari for most fans already.
Masturbation for Quidoid.

AsylumGuido 12-11-2023 03:39 PM

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I would hope any win is a good thing to a loyal fan. The point of the game is to win.

That said, we have a very winnable game next week versus the Giants. We should be getting Taysom back for that one and possibly Shaheed. If I'm not mistaken, both Michael Thomas and Lattimore should be eligible to return the following week to face the Rams. A win there would put us in the driver's seat with a game remaining against both the Bucs and Falcons. We are better than both those squads and could be as healthy as we've been all season entering that final stretch.

As things currently stand the Eagles would have the #5 seed and would visit the Saints. The Eagles are not the juggernaut as many had christened them and can be beat.

bobdog86 12-11-2023 03:40 PM

Re: Observation from the Saints' Playoff Chances with Four Games Left
 
It would be kinda like making out with your good looking sister. it would be okay, but wrong in so many ways......

Sinner 12-11-2023 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bobdog86 (Post 988172)
It would be kinda like making out with your good looking sister. it would be okay, but wrong in so many ways......

More like making out with an ugly sister, while she kicks you in the shins repeatedly, but yeah, for sure.

K Major 12-11-2023 04:03 PM

Re: Observation from the Saints' Playoff Chances with Four Games Left
 
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 988162)
3 of the 4 are at home, one in L.A.
Two are division rivals.
IF... and that's a really big IF, we win four straight, our record is 10-7 .
It would be DA's first ever winning season. Many Saints fans would commit hari-kari.
DC4's first playoff, maybe.
We'd get wiped out in the first game.

Would it be worth it? :bng:

Not at all.

Making the playoffs THIS season will not make the Saints better in 2024.

Like Underhill said, they need to have a plan of action going into next season & acquiring better talent as well as coaches.

"Fighting for the last bite of a 3 day old pizza" :rolleyes: - Underhill


arsaint 12-11-2023 04:57 PM

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For the dreamers among us:


New Orleans Saints What If?




Control our own destiny, which is what any team wants and this team can't stand to do. Figure they will find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory and miss out by 1 game.

AsylumGuido 12-11-2023 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by arsaint (Post 988184)
For the dreamers among us:


New Orleans Saints What If?




Control our own destiny, which is what any team wants and this team can't stand to do. Figure they will find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory and miss out by 1 game.

I will always believe. I have since 1967 and I won't stop today. Never.

Sinner 12-11-2023 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 988186)
I will always believe. I have since 1967 and I won't stop today. Never.

“Keep shopping, or the Terrorists win.”

BakoSaint 12-11-2023 06:20 PM

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What is consistent about Dennis Allen is his inconsistency. Our most likely result is probably to finish 8-9. All the teams we play have very similar ability and QB talent to us. We could easily win the division at 8-9 or 9-8. 10-7 is very unlikely, it would go against everything Dennis Allen has proven his entire coaching career, that results may vary.

If we win the division we will face either the Cowboys or Eagles in the playoffs. Guido can root all he wants but unless their QB goes down that game is going to look a lot like prime Ali vs Frasier (from Cheers). And then we will have one of the hardest schedules in 2024 and lose at least 11 games.

iceshack149 12-11-2023 06:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bobdog86 (Post 988172)
It would be kinda like making out with your good looking sister. it would be okay, but wrong in so many ways......

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 988178)
More like making out with an ugly sister, while she kicks you in the shins repeatedly, but yeah, for sure.

https://y.yarn.co/40aab6d4-41e1-46ab...6ec6a_text.gif

Sinner 12-11-2023 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 988192)

Wait… Mickey got the Game Ball… All is well.

iceshack149 12-11-2023 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 988194)
Wait… Mickey got the Game Ball… All is well.

That picture of Gayle Benson giving Mickey Loomis the gameball while both have big smiles says it all. Just keep doing what you're doing.

I know, I know. :deadhorse: But it's hard to see.

Sinner 12-11-2023 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 988195)
That picture of Gayle Benson giving Mickey Loomis the gameball while both have big smiles says it all. Just keep doing what you're doing.

I know, I know. :deadhorse: But it's hard to see.

See the problem is, that horse AINT dead.

K Major 12-11-2023 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 988195)
That picture of Gayle Benson giving Mickey Loomis the gameball while both have big smiles says it all. Just keep doing what you're doing.

I know, I know. :deadhorse: But it's hard to see.

Yep.

K Major 12-11-2023 08:15 PM

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Watching the Giants (our next opponent) vs Packers tonight.

This won’t be a cake walk by any means & they are far more talented & opportunistic than the Panthers.

bobdog86 12-11-2023 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 988200)
Watching the Giants (our next opponent) vs Packers tonight.

This won’t be a cake walk by any means & they are far more talented & opportunistic than the Panthers.

Jesus, Danny DeVito is QB’ing the Giants….we are in a world of stinking Poo. Probably going for 100 yds on the ground and a couple of throwing TD’s.

saintsfan1976 12-12-2023 06:25 AM

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Brian Dabol gonna steamroll Dennis Allen. I'm changing my prediction to

Giants L
Rams L
Tampa L
Atlanta W

leilung 12-12-2023 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 988205)
Brian Dabol gonna steamroll Dennis Allen. I'm changing my prediction to

Giants L
Rams L
Tampa L
Atlanta W

In another world I could see us being competitive, but in all honesty, I believe that many of you guys are going to get your wish.

It's a low bar, but I sadly think we're going to lose out for the remainder of the season. If they win, somehow, they're going to last until the final game of the season and lose the division to ATL.

If they don't, then good for them but I really don't see any wins in there. I love my team, but I'm keeping expectations low. :beer:

K Major 12-12-2023 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by leilung (Post 988216)
In another world I could see us being competitive, but in all honesty, I believe that many of you guys are going to get your wish.

It's a low bar, but I sadly think we're going to lose out for the remainder of the season. If they win, somehow, they're going to last until the final game of the season and lose the division to ATL.

If they don't, then good for them but I really don't see any wins in there. I love my team, but I'm keeping expectations low. :beer:

So what your're saying is that there is little hope, this 2023 team sucks and Dennis Allen and his assistants are all but gone after the season :p ?

Sinner 12-12-2023 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 988218)
So what your're saying is that there is little hope, this 2023 team sucks and Dennis Allen and his assistants are all but gone after the season :p ?

Everything except that last part.

BakoSaint 12-12-2023 11:31 AM

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I think you have to consider the strength of schedule of these teams. 3 have the same record as us and 1 has one more loss. But 3 have much harder schedules than we do. And 2 have have beat us head to head already.

Our remaining Schedule, Chance to win:

Giants - 50% The Giants have only one less win than us but with a 3 game winning streak and a much harder schedule than us with losses to Dallas 2x, SF, and Mia. They are hot. Playing better teams makes them better. Their point differential is horrible, but that reflects the schedule. Their new QB is mobile, which spells trouble for us. Still, the point differential is bad and they are due for a let down. I call it a toss up.

Rams - 40% The Rams are healthier than they were earlier in the year. They have the same record as us with a much tougher schedule with losses to Bal, Dal, SF, and Phi. In my opinion that is the same record with 4 losses to teams better than anyone we have played. Jax is 8-5 and the Rams have 4 losses to 10-3 teams. Also the Rams 2 best offensive players were hurt earlier in the year and are back now.

Bucs - 35% We lost resoundingly to the Bucs. They have the same record as us but their 1st place schedule earned them dates with SF, PHI, and BUF where we face/d LA, NY, and NE. We also lost to them twice last year. They seem to have DA's number.

ATL - 50% While we lost to Atlanta this year we beat them last year twice and the way we lost with 5 field goals was somewhat flukey. We have the same record with similar strength of schedule. This game is at home but that has not often made a big difference for us. I would call it a toss up.

So total I expect we win 1.75 games the rest of the way. So 2 is the most like, 1 is next most, 3 is third most, 0 is fourth most, 4 is 5th most likely, given the difference between 1.75 and those numbers.

bobdog86 12-12-2023 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 988229)
I think you have to consider the strength of schedule of these teams. 3 have the same record as us and 1 has one more loss. But 3 have much harder schedules than we do. And 2 have have beat us head to head already.

Our remaining Schedule, Chance to win:

Giants - 50% The Giants have only one less win than us but with a 3 game winning streak and a much harder schedule than us with losses to Dallas 2x, SF, and Mia. They are hot. Playing better teams makes them better. Their point differential is horrible, but that reflects the schedule. Their new QB is mobile, which spells trouble for us. Still, the point differential is bad and they are due for a let down. I call it a toss up.

Rams - 40% The Rams are healthier than they were earlier in the year. They have the same record as us with a much tougher schedule with losses to Bal, Dal, SF, and Phi.

Bucs - 35% We lost resoundingly to the Bucs. They have the same record as us but their 1st place schedule earned them dates with SF, PHI, and BUF where we faced LA, NY, and NE. We also lost to them twice last year. They seem to have DA's number.

ATL - 50% While we lost to Atlanta this year we beat them last year twice and the way we lost with 5 field goals was somewhat flukey. We have the same record with similar strength of schedule. This game is at home but that has not often made a big difference for us. I would call it a toss up.

So total I expect we win 1.75 games the rest of the way. So 2 is the most like, 1 is next most, 3 is third most, 0 is fourth most, 4 is 5th most likely, given the difference between 1.75 and those numbers.


Well Doggies! That is some fancy, high level cyphering there Jethro. I don't think I know what the hell any of it means, but it shore enough sounds impressive.

Danno 12-12-2023 11:41 AM

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Giants are a must win, If we can't beat them we aren't going 3-0 the rest of the way.

Its a contender or pretender game.

AsylumGuido 12-12-2023 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 988234)
Giants are a must win, If we can't beat them we aren't going 3-0 the rest of the way.

Its a contender or pretender game.

Agreed, Danno.

leilung 12-12-2023 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 988218)
So what your're saying is that there is little hope, this 2023 team sucks and Dennis Allen and his assistants are all but gone after the season :p ?

I'll say the coaching sucks more than the team. I ranked this squad in the top third with respect to talent. They had every opportunity to at least stand out and be taken seriously by the rest of the league early in the season. Sadly, that ain't happening. (We knew the dirty South was bad going into the season, but DAYUM!!!)

As far as DA and his entourage being shown the door, that ain't happening either. Seeing Ma Benson give Slick Mick the game ball for win #200 showed me all I needed to see where this is heading. We have at LEAST one more year of this crap and there doesn't seem to be any motivation to change up the line up. :brood:

AsylumGuido 12-12-2023 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by leilung (Post 988238)
I'll say the coaching sucks more than the team. I ranked this squad in the top third with respect to talent. They had every opportunity to at least stand out and be taken seriously by the rest of the league early in the season. Sadly, that ain't happening. (We knew the dirty South was bad going into the season, but DAYUM!!!)

As far as DA and his entourage being shown the door, that ain't happening either. Seeing Ma Benson give Slick Mick the game ball for win #200 showed me all I needed to see where this is heading. We have at LEAST one more year of this crap and there doesn't seem to be any motivation to change up the line up. :brood:

Don't look now, but with the Packers loss moving them to 6-7 the 2nd and 3rd place NFC South teams are in a tie for the final wild card spot as it stands. Only two non-division leaders have a record better than 6-7 in the NFC, the Eagles at 10-3 and the Vikings one game up on the others at 7-6. There is a very real chance for THREE NFC teams to make the playoffs with losing records.

Sinner 12-12-2023 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 988244)
Don't look now, but with the Packers loss moving them to 6-7 the 2nd and 3rd place NFC South teams are in a tie for the final wild card spot as it stands. Only two non-division leaders have a record better than 6-7 in the NFC, the Eagles at 10-3 and the Vikings one game up on the others at 7-6. There is a very real chance for THREE NFC teams to make the playoffs with losing records.

Translation: There is a very real chance for us to extend poo on the menu for quite some time, and be happy about it. Watch!

BakoSaint 12-12-2023 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by bobdog86 (Post 988230)
Well Doggies! That is some fancy, high level cyphering there Jethro. I don't think I know what the hell any of it means, but it shore enough sounds impressive.

0.5+0.4+0.35+0.5=1.75. What is so complicated about that Bubba? Other than one elementary school math problem, I wrote at the same level of vocab as like Yahoo Sports. Were you expecting Scholastic News? All the remaining teams we play are within 1 win/loss of the same record as us, so counting which games we will definitely win and definitely lose is a bad way to predict 4 toss ups. I don't think we should be favorites in any of the games, because of strength of schedule and head to head results.

Rugby Saint II 12-12-2023 04:26 PM

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DA will stick around if we win the division.

Hell. He could lose the rest of the games and still be back. Although, Carmichael is probably headed to Denver next year.

AsylumGuido 12-12-2023 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 988257)
DA will stick around if we win the division.

Hell. He could lose the rest of the games and still be back. Although, Carmichael is probably headed to Denver next year.

I can see that happening.

TheOak 12-12-2023 04:51 PM

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A playoff birth extends Dennis Allen's tenure, and unless you believe that he is the path to a future Super Bowl, that is a very bad thing.

Sinner 12-12-2023 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 988260)
A playoff birth extends Dennis Allen's tenure, and unless you believe that he is the path to a future Super Bowl, that is a very bad thing.

He is the path to a future Super Bowl for the teams that defeat us.

AsylumGuido 12-12-2023 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 988260)
A playoff birth extends Dennis Allen's tenure, and unless you believe that he is the path to a future Super Bowl, that is a very bad thing.

I am a fan of my Saints. I will always wish for a win anytime they take the field. There is no guarantee of anything in the future. The next coach, or the one after that, or even the next are not assured of being the path to a future Super Bowl.

In no way does a playoff berth extend anything other than an additional game, at least, for the dedicated fans of our Saints to attend another game and support the team that we love.

I'm sorry, but no part of me accepts the desire for my Saints to lose any game. To me those that feel that way are no different than a lowly Falcons' or Bucs' fan. Once again, I'm sorry if any of you have an issue with that, but that is just how I feel. And I assure you that I am not alone in that. I refuse to take any pleasure from my beloved team losing any game. Never.

I don't care anything about those that feel differently. That's on them.

K Major 12-12-2023 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 988257)
Hell. He could lose the rest of the games and still be back.

Wow.

In less than 2 seasons, he's turned the Saints into a losing franchise & they are willing to bring back a substitute teacher to lead a NFL team.

Just wow :eek:.

Sinner 12-12-2023 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 988266)
Wow.

In less than 2 seasons, he's turned the Saints into a losing franchise & they are willing to bring back a substitute teacher to lead a NFL team.

Just wow :eek:.

Give Quido a rose colored lollipop and a refurbished dome, and it just doesn’t matter.

AsylumGuido 12-12-2023 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 988266)
Wow.

In less than 2 seasons, he's turned the Saints into a losing franchise & they are willing to bring back a substitute teacher to lead a NFL team.

Just wow :eek:.

I guess we can remain fans and hope for the best from ownership or jump ship to some other franchise.

Sinner 12-12-2023 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 988268)
I guess we can remain fans and hope for the best from ownership or jump ship to some other franchise.

Or as fans (PAYING CUSTOMERS), DEMAND A QUALITY PRODUCT. Imagine that…

K Major 12-12-2023 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 988269)
Or as fans (PAYING CUSTOMERS), DEMAND A QUALITY PRODUCT. Imagine that…

Valid.

AsylumGuido 12-12-2023 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 988271)
Valid.

So, is this sinner guy a paying customer? Where are his tickets?

How about you, Major? How many games have you attended over the past two, three years?


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