Nick Underhill expects the Saints to hire a new offensive coordinator in 2024

K Major · 01-04-2024, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

So asking for a friend ... who'd be willing to come here that's a competent OC for what would in all likelihood be a one year gig at most? How large is the pool of candidates for such a hot job?

Not many but seeing how this Saints franchise operated in 2023, Dennis Allen will surely vouch for one of his former rejects from his Raider days

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The front office don't see it (or care to) yet, but the only way to resolve real problems in NOLA is getting a new Head Coach.

Getting a new coach won't guarantee success, but staying with the same below average HC will ensure mediocrity.

AsylumGuido · 01-04-2024, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

So asking for a friend ... who'd be willing to come here that's a competent OC for what would in all likelihood be a one year gig at most? How large is the pool of candidates for such a hot job?

Why would it be a one year gig?

MatthewT · 01-04-2024, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Why would it be a one year gig?

Because of an aging roster that is in need of an upgrade with very little wiggle room to make changes will put Dennis the Menace right back on the hot seat.

Sinner · 01-04-2024, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

Because of an aging roster that is in need of an upgrade with very little wiggle room to make changes will put Dennis the Menace right back on the hot seat.

You’re explaining this to someone who derives pleasure in seeing what this tired formula does to loyal fans.

mapcow · 01-04-2024, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

But I could live with both Allen and Carmichael returning if for no other reason than pissing off that sinner guy.

I can just imagine how crazy he must be sounding these days.

LOL!

"Sin's a Good Man's Brother", sounds great, and sure is a hell of a lot more relevant, than Guido, Quido, Quifo....

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AsylumGuido · 01-04-2024, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

Because of an aging roster that is in need of an upgrade with very little wiggle room to make changes will put Dennis the Menace right back on the hot seat.

How does that make it a one year gig?

By the way, this "aging roster" is only an average of 15 months older than the 6th youngest roster in the NFL. Were you aware of that?

MatthewT · 01-04-2024, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

How does that make it a one year gig?

By the way, this "aging roster" is only an average of 15 months older than the 6th youngest roster in the NFL. Were you aware of that?

In NFL terms 15 months is pretty significant. The Saints also have way too many key players that are over 30. The roster is absolutely aging and additionally has a great number of players that have been in the league more than 6 years which in most positions signals the later/end stages of a career.

The one year gig, if DA is fired after a failed year 3 the entire coaching staff is likely to go with him.

AsylumGuido · 01-04-2024, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

In NFL terms 15 months is pretty significant. The Saints also have way too many key players that are over 30. The roster is absolutely aging and additionally has a great number of players that have been in the league more than 6 years which in most positions signals the later stages of a career.

One good draft can take care of that. It can also shift the average age by a sizable margin. I feel way too much emphasis is placed on age. Arguably our best all round defensive player, Demario Davis, is one of our oldest players turning 35 in one week. Replacing him now with a much younger player would most likely weaken our roster while lowering the average age.

AsylumGuido · 01-04-2024, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

The one year gig, if DA is fired after a failed year 3 the entire coaching staff is likely to go with him.

So it changes from "what would in all likelihood be a one year gig at most" to not really in "all likelihood", but instead, based upon a big IF which cannot be determined at this time.

Got it.

AsylumGuido · 01-04-2024, 02:45 PM

Actually, come to think about it, it could very well be a one year gig when that incoming OC turns the offense around from day one. He'd suddenly be in big demand for a head coaching position. That in itself makes the job pretty darned attractive.

01-04-2024, 12:41 PM	#21
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Nick Underhill expects the Saints to hire a new offensive coordinator in 2024 Originally Posted by SmashMouth So asking for a friend ... who'd be willing to come here that's a competent OC for what would in all likelihood be a one year gig at most? How large is the pool of candidates for such a hot job? Not many but seeing how this Saints franchise operated in 2023, Dennis Allen will surely vouch for one of his former rejects from his Raider days . The front office don't see it (or care to) yet, but the only way to resolve real problems in NOLA is getting a new Head Coach. Getting a new coach won't guarantee success, but staying with the same below average HC will ensure mediocrity. jnormand, Rugby Saint II and Sinner like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,212	Re: Nick Underhill expects the Saints to hire a new offensive coordinator in 2024 Originally Posted by SmashMouth So asking for a friend ... who'd be willing to come here that's a competent OC for what would in all likelihood be a one year gig at most? How large is the pool of candidates for such a hot job? Why would it be a one year gig?

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MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: Nick Underhill expects the Saints to hire a new offensive coordinator in 2024 Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Why would it be a one year gig? Because of an aging roster that is in need of an upgrade with very little wiggle room to make changes will put Dennis the Menace right back on the hot seat. Sinner likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,212	Re: Nick Underhill expects the Saints to hire a new offensive coordinator in 2024 Originally Posted by MatthewT Because of an aging roster that is in need of an upgrade with very little wiggle room to make changes will put Dennis the Menace right back on the hot seat. How does that make it a one year gig? By the way, this "aging roster" is only an average of 15 months older than the 6th youngest roster in the NFL. Were you aware of that?

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MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: Nick Underhill expects the Saints to hire a new offensive coordinator in 2024 Originally Posted by AsylumGuido How does that make it a one year gig? By the way, this "aging roster" is only an average of 15 months older than the 6th youngest roster in the NFL. Were you aware of that? In NFL terms 15 months is pretty significant. The Saints also have way too many key players that are over 30. The roster is absolutely aging and additionally has a great number of players that have been in the league more than 6 years which in most positions signals the later/end stages of a career. The one year gig, if DA is fired after a failed year 3 the entire coaching staff is likely to go with him. Rugby Saint II and Sinner like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,212	Re: Nick Underhill expects the Saints to hire a new offensive coordinator in 2024 Originally Posted by MatthewT In NFL terms 15 months is pretty significant. The Saints also have way too many key players that are over 30. The roster is absolutely aging and additionally has a great number of players that have been in the league more than 6 years which in most positions signals the later stages of a career. One good draft can take care of that. It can also shift the average age by a sizable margin. I feel way too much emphasis is placed on age. Arguably our best all round defensive player, Demario Davis, is one of our oldest players turning 35 in one week. Replacing him now with a much younger player would most likely weaken our roster while lowering the average age.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,212	Re: Nick Underhill expects the Saints to hire a new offensive coordinator in 2024 Originally Posted by MatthewT The one year gig, if DA is fired after a failed year 3 the entire coaching staff is likely to go with him. So it changes from "what would in all likelihood be a one year gig at most" to not really in "all likelihood", but instead, based upon a big IF which cannot be determined at this time. Got it.

01-04-2024, 02:45 PM	#30
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,212	Re: Nick Underhill expects the Saints to hire a new offensive coordinator in 2024 Actually, come to think about it, it could very well be a one year gig when that incoming OC turns the offense around from day one. He'd suddenly be in big demand for a head coaching position. That in itself makes the job pretty darned attractive.