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papz 01-30-2024 06:54 PM

Re: Nick Underhill expects the Saints to hire a new offensive coordinator in 2024
 
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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 992251)
Ben Johnson staying says a lot about the Campbell Lions culture and the great weapons they have in place there. He's making pennies compared to dollars to stay.

I think he’s playing chess. There could potentially be 3 big time jobs up for grab next season as well as the Saints. Cowboys, Eagles, and Bills could open up. He’s suppose to be a very loyal guy as well so he can afford to wait. That big payday is coming.

BakoSaint 01-30-2024 08:21 PM

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Countdown to announcement that we interviewed Doug Marrone…

lee909 01-30-2024 09:14 PM

Re: Nick Underhill expects the Saints to hire a new offensive coordinator in 2024
 
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Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 992268)
Countdown to announcement that we interviewed Doug Marrone…

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AsylumGuido 01-31-2024 07:53 AM

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Another one out of the mix.


papz 01-31-2024 08:03 AM

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Oh man, I think it's going to be Getsy. He has nothing to lose coming here. Slowik will probably be a hot commodity next off season and Johnson can just wait and get promoted to OC there.

I have no idea how to judge Getsy. Were their deficincies on offense a Justin Fields problem or Getsy issue? They did do a good job at getting DJ Moore the football which bodes well for Olave. He gets their TE involved in the offense and likes to use the RB in the passing game as well.

AsylumGuido 01-31-2024 08:15 AM

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Nice tracking tool from Mike Clay.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GFLJe3PW...ng&name=medium


AsylumGuido 01-31-2024 08:21 AM

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AsylumGuido 01-31-2024 09:14 AM

Re: Nick Underhill expects the Saints to hire a new offensive coordinator in 2024
 
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Originally Posted by papz (Post 992287)
Oh man, I think it's going to be Getsy. He has nothing to lose coming here. Slowik will probably be a hot commodity next off season and Johnson can just wait and get promoted to OC there.

I have no idea how to judge Getsy. Were their deficincies on offense a Justin Fields problem or Getsy issue? They did do a good job at getting DJ Moore the football which bodes well for Olave. He gets their TE involved in the offense and likes to use the RB in the passing game as well.

Speaking of Getsy.


SmashMouth 01-31-2024 09:17 AM

Re: Nick Underhill expects the Saints to hire a new offensive coordinator in 2024
 
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Originally Posted by papz (Post 992287)
Oh man, I think it's going to be Getsy. He has nothing to lose coming here. Slowik will probably be a hot commodity next off season and Johnson can just wait and get promoted to OC there.

I have no idea how to judge Getsy. Were their deficincies on offense a Justin Fields problem or Getsy issue? They did do a good job at getting DJ Moore the football which bodes well for Olave. He gets their TE involved in the offense and likes to use the RB in the passing game as well.


:popcorn:

neugey 01-31-2024 09:23 AM

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Getsy's a mixed bag. Like that he spent time with LaFleur and Aaron Rodgers in that dynamic offense. And Fields is quite erratic so I don't know how much of Fields' shortcomings I blame on Getsy. Still, hiring a guy that just got fired at the position is a gut check.

AsylumGuido 01-31-2024 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 992303)
Getsy's a mixed bag. Like that he spent time with LaFleur and Aaron Rodgers in that dynamic offense. And Fields is quite erratic so I don't know how much of Fields' shortcomings I blame on Getsy. Still, hiring a guy that just got fired at the position is a gut check.

Quite often a firing like that has more to do with philosophical differences as opposed to performance based evaluation. Who knows for sure.

K Major 01-31-2024 09:36 AM

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IDK, kinda looks like the Saints front office is all over the place in their OC search.

Didn't even realize this is interview #2 for Luke G :rolleyes: .

SmashMouth 01-31-2024 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 992306)
IDK, kinda looks like the Saints front office is all over the place in their OC search.

Didn't even realize this is interview #2 for Luke G :rolleyes: .

Aren't Rez and Halo available? :beer:

leilung 01-31-2024 10:02 AM

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Slowik is staying with the Texans. Looks like the OC pool is shrinking and our Front Office is still just testing the water.

K Major 01-31-2024 10:11 AM

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Can't blame guys like Slowik, Jerrod J and Ben staying put in 2024 for their respective teams.

Just expect a 2nd tier OC signing in NO.

neugey 01-31-2024 11:16 AM

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The scariest things on that chart is "Loomis 2002"!

jnormand 01-31-2024 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 992317)
Can't blame guys like Slowik, Jerrod J and Ben staying put in 2024 for their respective teams.

Just expect a 2nd tier OC signing in NO.

Probably still an improvement over Pete “The Coffee Man” Carmichael. Lol

Sinner 01-31-2024 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 992337)
Probably still an improvement over Pete “The Coffee Man” Carmichael. Lol

It will be interesting to see how Pete and Sean do together Denver.

AsylumGuido 01-31-2024 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by leilung (Post 992314)
Slowik is staying with the Texans. Looks like the OC pool is shrinking and our Front Office is still just testing the water.

I really think the only thing Slowik was considering was a HC gig if he was to leave. I just heard the Texans gave him a nice new contract to stick around.

AsylumGuido 01-31-2024 02:37 PM

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Rugby Saint II 01-31-2024 03:35 PM

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If they don't make a decision this week then I believe that they must have a bad crush on one of the Super bowl coaches. If not, I guess it will be Chuckie calling plays next year.

Danno 01-31-2024 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 992346)

Who on the 49ers are we interested in?

AsylumGuido 01-31-2024 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 992352)
Who on the 49ers are we interested in?

Klint Kubiak, passing game coordinator, for one, Danno. Brian Griese, QB coach, as the other. Both were early interviews for the Saints OC position.

I wouldn't be disappointed with either. And neither really has a path for advancement with the 49er's as Kyle Shanahan is OC in addition to being HC and is also the offensive playcaller.

iceshack149 02-01-2024 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 992349)
If they don't make a decision this week then I believe that they must have a bad crush on one of the Super bowl coaches. If not, I guess it will be Chuckie calling plays next year.

I think the quote below may be the direction the Saints take if they do indeed hire Gruden. Similar to the Ireland position for the organization:
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Gruden likely would be an addition to the Saints offensive staff rather than a replacement for offensive coordinator Pete Carmichael or another coach in an existing role, the source said. The Saints made a similar move in 2015 when they added Allen to the staff as a senior defensive assistant while Rob Ryan was defensive coordinator. Allen was promoted into the coordinator’s role 10 months later when Ryan was fired.
https://www.si.com/nfl/saints/news/n...nson-requested


On a side note, I just saw that LB Coach Michael Hodges interviewed for D-Coordinator for the Patriots.
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Beyond the development aspect of the job, Hodges is a fantastic cultivator of relationships with his players. At just 37 years old, he is a young coach in the league and working with both young and veteran players can therefore be a challenge. Hodges however, has done nothing more but rise to that occasion. Not only has he been excellent working with younger guys but has built a valuable relationship with a veteran player like Davis that has paid dividends for the entire defense.
https://www.si.com/nfl/saints/news/n...ve-coordinator

neugey 02-01-2024 11:33 AM

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With the Washington position filled by Quinn and all teams now having head coaches ...

It makes me wonder if the OC/Playcaller is actually a bit more important than the head coach himself when the HC is a defensive coach/troop leader. Thinking Houston and Detroit specifically, and in particular if Bienemy stays with Commanders. I'm starting to believe it - OC > HC! That's why this OC hire is paramount for the Saints.


Defensive talent is awesome in the NFL. Generally speaking, I think it's harder to screw up the defensive playcalling. That said, an adept DC is still valuable.


Offensive playcalling on the other hand - it's a huge variance between being behind the times and stale vs those innovating at the McVay/Reid/Ben Johnson level.


I'm fairly convinced the OC/playcaller is the bigger difference-maker of the two now.



And also ... we probably could've had Vrabel if we had just decided to bid adios to DA :sad:

K Major 02-01-2024 11:43 AM

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Me thinks the Saints NEXT OC is still participating in post season.

Klint Kubiak.

Again, if you want to compete with the big boys of the NFL, get a YOUNG innovator from the Kyle Shanahan or McVay coaching tree.

But what the hell do I know 🤡 ? I flew jets @ Mach 2 designed by McDonnell Douglass back in the late 90’s.

AsylumGuido 02-01-2024 11:44 AM

Re: Nick Underhill expects the Saints to hire a new offensive coordinator in 2024
 
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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 992413)
With the Washington position filled by Quinn and all teams now having head coaches ...

It makes me wonder if the OC/Playcaller is actually a bit more important than the head coach himself when the HC is a defensive coach/troop leader. Thinking Houston and Detroit specifically, and in particular if Bienemy stays with Commanders. I'm starting to believe it - OC > HC! That's why this OC hire is paramount for the Saints.


Defensive talent is awesome in the NFL. Generally speaking, I think it's harder to screw up the defensive playcalling. That said, an adept DC is still valuable.


Offensive playcalling on the other hand - it's a huge variance between being behind the times and stale vs those innovating at the McVay/Reid/Ben Johnson level.


I'm fairly convinced the OC/playcaller is the bigger difference-maker of the two now.



And also ... we probably could've had Vrabel if we had just decided to bid adios to DA :sad:

I've heard recently that one of the perceived strikes against Vrabel is the same as that of Bill O'Brien. They both try to be another Belichick. Vrabel drew no real interest from anyone after he was released by the Titans. There's a few articles out there on it.

AsylumGuido 02-01-2024 11:49 AM

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Lack Of Interest In Mike Vrabel ‘Real Mystery,’ NFL Executive Says

Commanders Hire Dan Quinn, Leaving Former Titans Coach Mike Vrabel Out of a Job

AsylumGuido 02-01-2024 04:54 PM

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An OC off the market.


AsylumGuido 02-01-2024 04:57 PM

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