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A quarterback is only as good as his o-line. Carr is average at best with an average line, but is capable of being very good (not great) with an above average line. I have been on the draft a qb train but from where we sit in the draft I think we are better off building in the trenches and giving Carr a year with a better line. Maybe with the second or third pick if nix is there grab him and let him sit behind carr a couple of years. I don’t think we will ever win a Super Bowl with carr but I can guarantee we won’t win one without a line. I’m over the doom and gloom of the season. The NFL is built for all teams to win now. (Tampa, Houston, Green Bay). Let’s have a good off-season and get this train moving next season.

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We need a new Head Coach.

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I agree but that’s not happening now. Besides new coach or not we still need players for the next guy.

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It was supposed to happen by now, and everybody knows it. Just like everybody knows that even with a great O line, Carr ain’t Brees, or Mahomes, or Jackson, or Purdy, or whoever… the point being, we are WEAK in key leadership positions, which no amount of protection will perfect. We’ve had plenty of time to deal with this, and we’re still weak.

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I think I’m willing to look at shortcomings the team may/do have. I realize I’m not making my living with anything remotely related to the NFL,
So I am no “expert”.

That being said, it seems to me that this is an incredibly hard league to win in. Look at a few teams and their end of the year for example.

Buffalo. Good QB. Has been solid in the regular season. Won a few playoff games. But they folded again and it brings back memories of the Jim Kelly Bills and a team that NEVER got over the hump.

Philly. Another team who seemed to have it going with a talented young QB. But they folded down the stretch again, and could not get the final job done. whether or not they will stay. Competitive time will tell.

Minnesota. A team that is beat us multiple times in the playoffs. But they are looking at possibly resigning Kurt cousins or rebuilding, and looking for another quarterback, to start the franchise with

This is just a couple of examples. I live up here where New England has just had two terrible seasons in a row, and I wondering where they are going to go from here as a franchise. One of my best friends is a Jets fan and he had to watch the Aaron Rodgers experiment blew up in his face.

The remaining teams have had seasons of four or less wins, which gave them chances to restock their roster. The biggest problem I see with the Saints is the draft picks. We’ve made on both sides of the line of scrimmage have not panned out especially early pics.

Dennis Allen might not be the guy. He’s probably not. But if the definition of “the guy” is winning a Super Bowl, then practically no other coach in the league is going to be the guy. Dennis Allen had the same number or more wins than Sean, Payton and Bill Belichick this year. Does that mean he’s a better coach than them? Of course not. But a lot of teams are in a lot worse shape.

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Yup. That grass is always greener on that other side of the fence. ;)

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You make some good points, and I have to admit, it could be worse. But I also think it could be a hell of a lot better too, especially where this franchise in two years after Sean left…quite a decline. I feel like we’re in better shape roster wise than what Sean and Bill had to work with this past season also.

To me, “our guy” is a leader of men who commands respect and players want to run through brick walls for. When the players chose to override Allen on that last play against the Falcons, that sealed the deal for me on him ever being our guy. I’m convinced he’s just not head Coach material, and that’s ok…plenty of really good OCs and DCs have tried and failed. I think two main reasons he even hit nine wins is because of a strong roster combined with a weak schedule. If I’m not mistaken, we only beat sub .500 teams…or maybe one barely above .500. Sorry, not impressed.
Could a really good OC come in and turn things around? Maybe. Definitely not out of the realm of possibilities. But I’m still not big on Allen being “our guy” even if so

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Maybe maybe not, but sure AINT green on this side of the fence.

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It's not green right now but we are in deep winter and heavy snow is covering the ground. Hang in there. Spring growth is coming in the form of a new OC.

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Respect your thoughts Sinner and thanks for your kind words and attitudes.

I guess I mainly differ on your idea of Doom and Gloom. I’ve spent many years living in areas where the NFL teams were good and watched them win SBs. But I’ve also watched those teams completely suck, win 3 or less games and be true laughing stocks. Saints haven’t been that poor in many years. People are talking about doom and gloom with a team that had a winning record. I just can’t agree with that point of view.

Look at the good/great teams Buffalo put out there and never won. Same with Minnesota. And some have the idea to be critical of this franchise because they “only” won1 championship despite getting shafted by the league once for bounty gate and another by the worst call in NFL history? I don’t see it.

Payton and Brees had many 7-9 years then rebounded. When/if the team has a 3 win season and can look for a QB in the top 5 picks then I’ll agree with the sky is falling narrative. But while the team is competing, winning more than they lose, and in the playoff hunt until the last week of the season I’ll be happy to be a Saints fan. Lots of teams are doing way worse.