A quarterback is only as good as his o-line. Carr is average at best with an average line, but is capable of being very good (not great) with an above average line. I have been on the draft a qb train but from where we sit in the draft I think we are better off building in the trenches and giving Carr a year with a better line. Maybe with the second or third pick if nix is there grab him and let him sit behind carr a couple of years. I don’t think we will ever win a Super Bowl with carr but I can guarantee we won’t win one without a line. I’m over the doom and gloom of the season. The NFL is built for all teams to win now. (Tampa, Houston, Green Bay). Let’s have a good off-season and get this train moving next season.

I agree but that’s not happening now. Besides new coach or not we still need players for the next guy.

I think I’m willing to look at shortcomings the team may/do have. I realize I’m not making my living with anything remotely related to the NFL,
So I am no “expert”.

That being said, it seems to me that this is an incredibly hard league to win in. Look at a few teams and their end of the year for example.

Buffalo. Good QB. Has been solid in the regular season. Won a few playoff games. But they folded again and it brings back memories of the Jim Kelly Bills and a team that NEVER got over the hump.

Philly. Another team who seemed to have it going with a talented young QB. But they folded down the stretch again, and could not get the final job done. whether or not they will stay. Competitive time will tell.

Minnesota. A team that is beat us multiple times in the playoffs. But they are looking at possibly resigning Kurt cousins or rebuilding, and looking for another quarterback, to start the franchise with

This is just a couple of examples. I live up here where New England has just had two terrible seasons in a row, and I wondering where they are going to go from here as a franchise. One of my best friends is a Jets fan and he had to watch the Aaron Rodgers experiment blew up in his face.

The remaining teams have had seasons of four or less wins, which gave them chances to restock their roster. The biggest problem I see with the Saints is the draft picks. We’ve made on both sides of the line of scrimmage have not panned out especially early pics.

Dennis Allen might not be the guy. He’s probably not. But if the definition of “the guy” is winning a Super Bowl, then practically no other coach in the league is going to be the guy. Dennis Allen had the same number or more wins than Sean, Payton and Bill Belichick this year. Does that mean he’s a better coach than them? Of course not. But a lot of teams are in a lot worse shape.

I think I’m willing to look at shortcomings the team may/do have. I realize I’m not making my living with anything remotely related to the NFL,
So I am no “expert”.

That being said, it seems to me that this is an incredibly hard league to win in. Look at a few teams and their end of the year for example.

Buffalo. Good QB. Has been solid in the regular season. Won a few playoff games. But they folded again and it brings back memories of the Jim Kelly Bills and a team that NEVER got over the hump.

Philly. Another team who seemed to have it going with a talented young QB. But they folded down the stretch again, and could not get the final job done. whether or not they will stay. Competitive time will tell.

Minnesota. A team that is beat us multiple times in the playoffs. But they are looking at possibly resigning Kurt cousins or rebuilding, and looking for another quarterback, to start the franchise with

This is just a couple of examples. I live up here where New England has just had two terrible seasons in a row, and I wondering where they are going to go from here as a franchise. One of my best friends is a Jets fan and he had to watch the Aaron Rodgers experiment blew up in his face.

The remaining teams have had seasons of four or less wins, which gave them chances to restock their roster. The biggest problem I see with the Saints is the draft picks. We’ve made on both sides of the line of scrimmage have not panned out especially early pics.

Dennis Allen might not be the guy. He’s probably not. But if the definition of “the guy” is winning a Super Bowl, then practically no other coach in the league is going to be the guy. Dennis Allen had the same number or more wins than Sean, Payton and Bill Belichick this year. Does that mean he’s a better coach than them? Of course not. But a lot of teams are in a lot worse shape.

Yup. That grass is always greener on that other side of the fence.

Maybe maybe not, but sure AINT green on this side of the fence.

Not to take any significance away from the deeply personal part of Boston’s process, and with all due respect, that aside, it was doom and gloom way back when Drew was in decline, and between Jameis, Andy, and Derek, and most of all Dennis, with Mickey stating that we had all the right people in the building, we are beyond doom and gloom, watching other teams in the Playoffs. Again. Y’all can have high hopes for a mediocre season next year, because if nothing else, loyal Saints Fans are resilient. Doom and gloom is a reality that we’ll have to live with for years to come. I called it when Drew walked off, I called it when Payton fled the scene, I called it all year last year, and all year this year, and Im calling it now. Call me “NEGA” or chicken little all you like, but the sky done fell, and it AINT rising in New Orleans, with these people in the building.