NFC South Quarterbacks

keithday123 · 03-11-2024, 10:20 PM

I hope you’re right Guido, I don’t have a problem being wrong but I just don’t see it with Carr. But I’m with Rez on Pennix. I think he’s gonna be a difference maker if he can stay healthy. However, I like Nix as well. Has started a lot of games and against some great competition over the last 4-5 years. I think he is as seasoned as anyone and I would be shocked to see him get passed Payton in Denver. If either one is there at 14 I grab them immediately. If not you gotta give Haener all the reps in preseason to see if he’s the guy.

Sinner · 03-12-2024, 12:29 AM

Originally Posted by keithday123

I hope you’re right Guido, I don’t have a problem being wrong but I just don’t see it with Carr. But I’m with Rez on Pennix. I think he’s gonna be a difference maker if he can stay healthy. However, I like Nix as well. Has started a lot of games and against some great competition over the last 4-5 years. I think he is as seasoned as anyone and I would be shocked to see him get passed Payton in Denver. If either one is there at 14 I grab them immediately. If not you gotta give Haener all the reps in preseason to see if he’s the guy.

It AINT Carr.

SmashMouth · 03-12-2024, 07:20 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Nix isn’t good. Penix would be the better option in the draft.

Cousins
Mayfield
Carr
Young

In that order.

I think Young might ascend this year and push Carr or Mayfield down to last.

What if Klint Kubiak works his magic with Carr and the offense, how is that list changed?

rezburna · 03-12-2024, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

What if Klint Kubiak works his magic with Carr and the offense, how is that list changed?

If Kubiak can get very best version of Carr and the Falcons get the very best version of Cousins I’d say Carr is just a step behind Cousins.

K Major · 03-12-2024, 09:12 AM

Originally Posted by keithday123

I hope you’re right Guido, I don’t have a problem being wrong but I just don’t see it with Carr. But I’m with Rez on Pennix. I think he’s gonna be a difference maker if he can stay healthy. However, I like Nix as well. Has started a lot of games and against some great competition over the last 4-5 years. I think he is as seasoned as anyone and I would be shocked to see him get passed Payton in Denver. If either one is there at 14 I grab them immediately. If not you gotta give Haener all the reps in preseason to see if he’s the guy.

The Saints are all in on Carr. He’s their guy

.

No QB will be selected in the 2024 draft for New Orleans.

And that sucks.

AsylumGuido · 03-12-2024, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by keithday123

I hope you’re right Guido, I don’t have a problem being wrong but I just don’t see it with Carr. But I’m with Rez on Pennix. I think he’s gonna be a difference maker if he can stay healthy. However, I like Nix as well. Has started a lot of games and against some great competition over the last 4-5 years. I think he is as seasoned as anyone and I would be shocked to see him get passed Payton in Denver. If either one is there at 14 I grab them immediately. If not you gotta give Haener all the reps in preseason to see if he’s the guy.

I believe the Saints decision to stick with Carr for the long term was made when they initially signed him whether any fans like that or not. I think their move to restructure this offseason only reinforces that decision. I can see them drafting another QB somewhere in the draft, not as competition for Carr, but as competition for Haener at backup.

AsylumGuido · 03-12-2024, 09:34 AM

Speaking of Cousins, he does still have to pass his physical to make the deal official tomorrow.

AsylumGuido · 03-12-2024, 10:04 AM

On the "for what it's worth" front ...

TheOak · 03-12-2024, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

The Saints are all in on Carr. He’s their guy .

No QB will be selected in the 2024 draft for New Orleans.

And that sucks.

Is it optimistic or pessimistic to point out that the Saints are ‘all in’ on a QB that doesn’t rank in the top 1/3rd of NFL QBs?

It feels like that 2am, last call, sort of ‘all in’.

Drew ranked in the top 3 with crappy defenses.

K Major · 03-12-2024, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Is it optimistic or pessimistic to point out that the Saints are ‘all in’ on a QB that doesn’t rank in the top 1/3rd of NFL QBs?

It feels like that 2am, last call, sort of ‘all in’.

Drew ranked in the top 3 with crappy defenses.

For me, it's a bit pessimistic.

I'm just kinda tired of hearing analysts & sports experts point out that "it takes time to get acclimated to the offense".

This is year 10 for Carr who often struggled (even when the o line held up) & then I see a rookie of the year (CJ Stroud) ball out of control or a 2 year starter (Jordan Love) throw for over 4k but more importantly lead his team to a playoff win in 2023

.

Carr just strikes me as a guy who doesn't want to accept blame when things go bad, like "it's not my fault".

He still locks in on WRs & is quick to dump it off. All I see is a high end game manager.

The new OC will help but I'm just not sold on Carr (prove me wrong) leading us back to where we want to be. He's just not that dude.

As for Brees ... he was just a different cat

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03-11-2024, 10:20 PM	#21
keithday123 Texasaint Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 172	Re: NFC South Quarterbacks I hope you’re right Guido, I don’t have a problem being wrong but I just don’t see it with Carr. But I’m with Rez on Pennix. I think he’s gonna be a difference maker if he can stay healthy. However, I like Nix as well. Has started a lot of games and against some great competition over the last 4-5 years. I think he is as seasoned as anyone and I would be shocked to see him get passed Payton in Denver. If either one is there at 14 I grab them immediately. If not you gotta give Haener all the reps in preseason to see if he’s the guy.
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03-12-2024, 12:29 AM	#22
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,815	Re: NFC South Quarterbacks Originally Posted by keithday123 I hope you’re right Guido, I don’t have a problem being wrong but I just don’t see it with Carr. But I’m with Rez on Pennix. I think he’s gonna be a difference maker if he can stay healthy. However, I like Nix as well. Has started a lot of games and against some great competition over the last 4-5 years. I think he is as seasoned as anyone and I would be shocked to see him get passed Payton in Denver. If either one is there at 14 I grab them immediately. If not you gotta give Haener all the reps in preseason to see if he’s the guy. It AINT Carr.
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03-12-2024, 07:20 AM	#23
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,044 Blog Entries: 29	Re: NFC South Quarterbacks Originally Posted by rezburna Nix isn’t good. Penix would be the better option in the draft. Cousins Mayfield Carr Young In that order. I think Young might ascend this year and push Carr or Mayfield down to last. What if Klint Kubiak works his magic with Carr and the offense, how is that list changed?

03-12-2024, 08:45 AM	#24
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,848	Re: NFC South Quarterbacks Originally Posted by SmashMouth What if Klint Kubiak works his magic with Carr and the offense, how is that list changed? If Kubiak can get very best version of Carr and the Falcons get the very best version of Cousins I’d say Carr is just a step behind Cousins.

03-12-2024, 09:12 AM	#25
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,588 Blog Entries: 3	Re: NFC South Quarterbacks Originally Posted by keithday123 I hope you’re right Guido, I don’t have a problem being wrong but I just don’t see it with Carr. But I’m with Rez on Pennix. I think he’s gonna be a difference maker if he can stay healthy. However, I like Nix as well. Has started a lot of games and against some great competition over the last 4-5 years. I think he is as seasoned as anyone and I would be shocked to see him get passed Payton in Denver. If either one is there at 14 I grab them immediately. If not you gotta give Haener all the reps in preseason to see if he’s the guy. The Saints are all in on Carr. He’s their guy . No QB will be selected in the 2024 draft for New Orleans. And that sucks. Sinner and rezburna like this.

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03-12-2024, 09:22 AM	#26
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,044	Re: NFC South Quarterbacks Originally Posted by keithday123 I hope you’re right Guido, I don’t have a problem being wrong but I just don’t see it with Carr. But I’m with Rez on Pennix. I think he’s gonna be a difference maker if he can stay healthy. However, I like Nix as well. Has started a lot of games and against some great competition over the last 4-5 years. I think he is as seasoned as anyone and I would be shocked to see him get passed Payton in Denver. If either one is there at 14 I grab them immediately. If not you gotta give Haener all the reps in preseason to see if he’s the guy. I believe the Saints decision to stick with Carr for the long term was made when they initially signed him whether any fans like that or not. I think their move to restructure this offseason only reinforces that decision. I can see them drafting another QB somewhere in the draft, not as competition for Carr, but as competition for Haener at backup.

03-12-2024, 09:34 AM	#27
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,044	Re: NFC South Quarterbacks Speaking of Cousins, he does still have to pass his physical to make the deal official tomorrow. Twitter

03-12-2024, 10:04 AM	#28
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,044	Re: NFC South Quarterbacks On the "for what it's worth" front ... Twitter

03-12-2024, 11:17 AM	#29
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,019	Re: NFC South Quarterbacks Originally Posted by K Major The Saints are all in on Carr. He’s their guy . No QB will be selected in the 2024 draft for New Orleans. And that sucks. Is it optimistic or pessimistic to point out that the Saints are ‘all in’ on a QB that doesn’t rank in the top 1/3rd of NFL QBs? It feels like that 2am, last call, sort of ‘all in’. Drew ranked in the top 3 with crappy defenses. K Major likes this.

03-12-2024, 11:59 AM	#30
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,588 Blog Entries: 3	Re: NFC South Quarterbacks Originally Posted by TheOak Is it optimistic or pessimistic to point out that the Saints are ‘all in’ on a QB that doesn’t rank in the top 1/3rd of NFL QBs? It feels like that 2am, last call, sort of ‘all in’. Drew ranked in the top 3 with crappy defenses. For me, it's a bit pessimistic. I'm just kinda tired of hearing analysts & sports experts point out that "it takes time to get acclimated to the offense". This is year 10 for Carr who often struggled (even when the o line held up) & then I see a rookie of the year (CJ Stroud) ball out of control or a 2 year starter (Jordan Love) throw for over 4k but more importantly lead his team to a playoff win in 2023 . Carr just strikes me as a guy who doesn't want to accept blame when things go bad, like "it's not my fault". He still locks in on WRs & is quick to dump it off. All I see is a high end game manager. The new OC will help but I'm just not sold on Carr (prove me wrong) leading us back to where we want to be. He's just not that dude. As for Brees ... he was just a different cat .