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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I would've liked to see him get a more decent look, but like many Vets on this team, I guess it's time to be moving on.... Looks like that stunt at the end of the ATL game was the nail ...
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Saints turning the Page on Winston
I would've liked to see him get a more decent look, but like many Vets on this team, I guess it's time to be moving on....
Looks like that stunt at the end of the ATL game was the nail in the coffin. Apparently, DA don't play that. Good luck in CLE and eat a W! https://www.si.com/nfl/saints/news/j...s-joins-browns |
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Re: Saints turning the Page on Winston
Well good for him. I hope he does well there.
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Re: Saints turning the Page on Winston
Originally Posted by leilung
Unless I’m mistaken, imagine that as my wife often says, Jimmy G has never played with Klint.
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Re: Saints turning the Page on Winston
Good for him.
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Re: Saints turning the Page on Winston
Are we getting a compensatory pick as a result ?
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Re: Saints turning the Page on Winston
No. He doesn't qualify as an end of contract free agent. Same with Thomas if he signs elsewhere. Even if he was he'd only go into the compensatory formula which balances additions against subtractions and factors in the terms of the player's new contracts.
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Re: Saints turning the Page on Winston
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
The other end of contract FAs that sign/signed elsewhere, like Hendrickson, we didn't get a compensatory pick? ![]()
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Re: Saints turning the Page on Winston
Originally Posted by SmashMouth
He would have counted toward the overall formula. You don't get compensatory picks based upon the free agent lost itself. The picks are based upon a combination of end of contract free agents lost, free agents added, their individual new contracts, and playing time. That's why we never know the exact picks being awarded until well after the season has ended.![]()
Look at it as a qualified accounting balance sheet with debits and credits but weighted by contracts given and playing time. |
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Re: Saints turning the Page on Winston
Guido is right but worded it somewhat awkwardly. He wouldnt count as an end of contract free agent because he wasn’t one. His contract didnt end with its final year. It didn’t automatically void. It may have been planned to end but it was not automatic and the nfl rules dont read tea leaves. His contract had some crazy trigger to pay him $100 million or whatever if we didnt cut him, so we did cut him, and designated him a post june 1 cut. Same deal with Michael Thomas. Cut players dont count toward the comp pick formulas. Their creative contracts were a double edged sword, allowing us to to designate them post june 1 cuts and spread out dead cap but preventing us from gaining comp picks, versus what it would have been if the contracts had been allowed to expire normally or void automatically. While not exact the formulas are very predictable and we will know before the start of the season what comp picks to expect next year with just the slight possibility that one pick could be a little higher or lower. Signing Derek Carr didnt count against us either, we signed the most overpriced free agent and still got comp picks because the Raiders cut him.
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