Saints 2024 Projected Win Total 7.5

lee909 · 04-10-2024, 09:08 PM

Unless they pull a rabbit out the hat and sort the offensive line and maybe DT i'd say they would do well exceptional well to get over that.

The division is hard to predict as the games are normally close even when a team isn't good. Outside of that how many of the teams are you making them favourites against Denver,Washington,Giants. So unless they pull out 4 wins in division it'll be tough. Though difficult to say when injuries start piling up for teams

Home games
Cleveland Browns
Denver Broncos
Las Vegas Raiders
Los Angeles Rams
Philadelphia Eagles
Washington Commanders

Road games

Dallas Cowboys
Green Bay Packers
Kansas City Chiefs
Los Angeles Chargers
New York Giants

Rugby Saint II · 04-11-2024, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

Unless they pull a rabbit out the hat and sort the offensive line and maybe DT i'd say they would do well exceptional well to get over that.

The division is hard to predict as the games are normally close even when a team isn't good. Outside of that how many of the teams are you making them favourites against Denver,Washington,Giants. So unless they pull out 4 wins in division it'll be tough. Though difficult to say when injuries start piling up for teams

Home games
Cleveland Browns
Denver Broncos
Las Vegas Raiders
Los Angeles Rams
Philadelphia Eagles
Washington Commanders

Road games

Dallas Cowboys
Green Bay Packers
Kansas City Chiefs
Los Angeles Chargers
New York Giants

If we can simply get off to a fast start under Kubiak's offense we could win ten games. If we start off the way we finished down the stretch last year we might surprise some folks. Let's see how we draft this year and then revisit this. Right now I'm feeling cautiously optimistic.

Boston Saint · 05-22-2024, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

If we can simply get off to a fast start under Kubiak's offense we could win ten games. If we start off the way we finished down the stretch last year we might surprise some folks. Let's see how we draft this year and then revisit this. Right now I'm feeling cautiously optimistic.

Well, it could be said that, last year, Carr was relatively healthy the first 2 games of the year and for the 7 games after the bye. In those games the team was 6-3 last year. That’s a 11-12 win season with a healthy Carr.

BakoSaint · 05-23-2024, 10:40 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Well, it could be said that, last year, Carr was relatively healthy the first 2 games of the year and for the 7 games after the bye. In those games the team was 6-3 last year. That’s a 11-12 win season with a healthy Carr.

It could be said that Carr is 1 year older and playing behind a much less experienced offensive line and facing a less easy schedule of opponents in 2024 than 2023. Last year many said we would have a great record because Lattimore and Thomas's injuries in 2022 were a fluke, but it turns out that with age and risk factors injuries can be a pattern.

But in the end its ok. If we don't win a lot of games we still have our own 1st round pick so we have insurance. If we win, great, if we don't, we could be in a position to draft a QB of the future and that position will also help attract better coaching candidates than for example Carolina was able to with no 1st round pick and looking for a coach or we would have been this offseason with a later 1st round pick than our own.

SmashMouth · 05-23-2024, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Here is a thought. The Saints haven’t been crappy enough to warrant a top 10 pick since 2008 and not crappy enough for a top 5 since 2006. That’s a long time. So, on the unlikely chance the team sucks badly enough for a top 3 pick next year then maybe we get our future QB. Not that I’m predicting anything.

So we got that going for us, which is nice.

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

It could be said that Carr is 1 year older and playing behind a much less experienced offensive line and facing a less easy schedule of opponents in 2024 than 2023. Last year many said we would have a great record because Lattimore and Thomas's injuries in 2022 were a fluke, but it turns out that with age and risk factors injuries can be a pattern.

But in the end its ok. If we don't win a lot of games we still have our own 1st round pick so we have insurance. If we win, great, if we don't, we could be in a position to draft a QB of the future and that position will also help attract better coaching candidates than for example Carolina was able to with no 1st round pick and looking for a coach or we would have been this offseason with a later 1st round pick than our own.

Mebbe ... or mebbe we have our QB of the future already in the QB room.

BakoSaint · 05-23-2024, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Mebbe ... or mebbe we have our QB of the future already in the QB room.

I kind of wonder what if Rattler turns out to be a Teddy Bridgewater level QB. Like not great, but pretty good. If that happens, which is definitely possible not just either great or worthless, its possible we could take a new QB in the draft at some point and get a good draft pick for Rattler to down the line to help our oline. Or if our defense is great in the future, maybe a good but not great QB will be good enough.

AsylumGuido · 05-23-2024, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

I kind of wonder what if Rattler turns out to be a Teddy Bridgewater level QB. Like not great, but pretty good. If that happens, which is definitely possible not just either great or worthless, its possible we could take a new QB in the draft at some point and get a good draft pick for Rattler to down the line to help our oline. Or if our defense is great in the future, maybe a good but not great QB will be good enough.

At the very worst Derek Carr himself is "good but not great". Why look elsewhere? And that said, you'll never convince me that either Haener or Rattler can give us more than Carr anytime soon, if at all. I can't see either as more than a serviceable backup.

Oh, and as far as we know we already have all the help we need for our o-line in the house right now. Of course, seeing the possibility takes an open mind and some optimism.

Boston Saint · 05-23-2024, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

It could be said that Carr is 1 year older and playing behind a much less experienced offensive line and facing a less easy schedule of opponents in 2024 than 2023. Last year many said we would have a great record because Lattimore and Thomas's injuries in 2022 were a fluke, but it turns out that with age and risk factors injuries can be a pattern.

But in the end its ok. If we don't win a lot of games we still have our own 1st round pick so we have insurance. If we win, great, if we don't, we could be in a position to draft a QB of the future and that position will also help attract better coaching candidates than for example Carolina was able to with no 1st round pick and looking for a coach or we would have been this offseason with a later 1st round pick than our own.

As far as the Oline goes there are obviously going to be a lot of new parts. I don’t know if lack of experience is a bad thing. That means getting younger. Especially when we’re switching to a new blocking scheme this off-season anyway. Penning will be more experienced and hopefully healthier. They brought in guys from other teams with experience but past health issues. I’m sure they could have signed Peat had they wanted to. They feel good about moving on. The key is always is going to be health. Can Ram play at all? I heard some of the guys we brought in as free agents had promising starts to their career, but were sidelined by health issues. Can they stay on the field?

04-10-2024, 09:08 PM	#1
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,875 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints 2024 Projected Win Total 7.5 Unless they pull a rabbit out the hat and sort the offensive line and maybe DT i'd say they would do well exceptional well to get over that. The division is hard to predict as the games are normally close even when a team isn't good. Outside of that how many of the teams are you making them favourites against Denver,Washington,Giants. So unless they pull out 4 wins in division it'll be tough. Though difficult to say when injuries start piling up for teams Home games Cleveland Browns Denver Broncos Las Vegas Raiders Los Angeles Rams Philadelphia Eagles Washington Commanders Road games Dallas Cowboys Green Bay Packers Kansas City Chiefs Los Angeles Chargers New York Giants Rugby Saint II likes this.
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04-11-2024, 01:14 PM	#2
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,153	Re: Saints 2024 Projected Win Total 7.5 Originally Posted by lee909 Unless they pull a rabbit out the hat and sort the offensive line and maybe DT i'd say they would do well exceptional well to get over that. The division is hard to predict as the games are normally close even when a team isn't good. Outside of that how many of the teams are you making them favourites against Denver,Washington,Giants. So unless they pull out 4 wins in division it'll be tough. Though difficult to say when injuries start piling up for teams Home games Cleveland Browns Denver Broncos Las Vegas Raiders Los Angeles Rams Philadelphia Eagles Washington Commanders Road games Dallas Cowboys Green Bay Packers Kansas City Chiefs Los Angeles Chargers New York Giants If we can simply get off to a fast start under Kubiak's offense we could win ten games. If we start off the way we finished down the stretch last year we might surprise some folks. Let's see how we draft this year and then revisit this. Right now I'm feeling cautiously optimistic. AsylumGuido likes this.

05-22-2024, 04:53 PM	#3
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Saints 2024 Projected Win Total 7.5 Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II If we can simply get off to a fast start under Kubiak's offense we could win ten games. If we start off the way we finished down the stretch last year we might surprise some folks. Let's see how we draft this year and then revisit this. Right now I'm feeling cautiously optimistic. Well, it could be said that, last year, Carr was relatively healthy the first 2 games of the year and for the 7 games after the bye. In those games the team was 6-3 last year. That’s a 11-12 win season with a healthy Carr. AsylumGuido likes this.

05-23-2024, 10:40 AM	#4
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,391	Re: Saints 2024 Projected Win Total 7.5 Originally Posted by Boston Saint Well, it could be said that, last year, Carr was relatively healthy the first 2 games of the year and for the 7 games after the bye. In those games the team was 6-3 last year. That’s a 11-12 win season with a healthy Carr. It could be said that Carr is 1 year older and playing behind a much less experienced offensive line and facing a less easy schedule of opponents in 2024 than 2023. Last year many said we would have a great record because Lattimore and Thomas's injuries in 2022 were a fluke, but it turns out that with age and risk factors injuries can be a pattern. But in the end its ok. If we don't win a lot of games we still have our own 1st round pick so we have insurance. If we win, great, if we don't, we could be in a position to draft a QB of the future and that position will also help attract better coaching candidates than for example Carolina was able to with no 1st round pick and looking for a coach or we would have been this offseason with a later 1st round pick than our own. Boston Saint likes this.
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05-23-2024, 10:43 AM	#5
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,807 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Saints 2024 Projected Win Total 7.5 Originally Posted by Boston Saint Here is a thought. The Saints haven’t been crappy enough to warrant a top 10 pick since 2008 and not crappy enough for a top 5 since 2006. That’s a long time. So, on the unlikely chance the team sucks badly enough for a top 3 pick next year then maybe we get our future QB. Not that I’m predicting anything. So we got that going for us, which is nice. Originally Posted by BakoSaint It could be said that Carr is 1 year older and playing behind a much less experienced offensive line and facing a less easy schedule of opponents in 2024 than 2023. Last year many said we would have a great record because Lattimore and Thomas's injuries in 2022 were a fluke, but it turns out that with age and risk factors injuries can be a pattern. But in the end its ok. If we don't win a lot of games we still have our own 1st round pick so we have insurance. If we win, great, if we don't, we could be in a position to draft a QB of the future and that position will also help attract better coaching candidates than for example Carolina was able to with no 1st round pick and looking for a coach or we would have been this offseason with a later 1st round pick than our own. Mebbe ... or mebbe we have our QB of the future already in the QB room.

05-23-2024, 11:28 AM	#6
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,391	Re: Saints 2024 Projected Win Total 7.5 Originally Posted by SmashMouth Mebbe ... or mebbe we have our QB of the future already in the QB room. I kind of wonder what if Rattler turns out to be a Teddy Bridgewater level QB. Like not great, but pretty good. If that happens, which is definitely possible not just either great or worthless, its possible we could take a new QB in the draft at some point and get a good draft pick for Rattler to down the line to help our oline. Or if our defense is great in the future, maybe a good but not great QB will be good enough.
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05-23-2024, 11:41 AM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Saints 2024 Projected Win Total 7.5 Originally Posted by BakoSaint I kind of wonder what if Rattler turns out to be a Teddy Bridgewater level QB. Like not great, but pretty good. If that happens, which is definitely possible not just either great or worthless, its possible we could take a new QB in the draft at some point and get a good draft pick for Rattler to down the line to help our oline. Or if our defense is great in the future, maybe a good but not great QB will be good enough. At the very worst Derek Carr himself is "good but not great". Why look elsewhere? And that said, you'll never convince me that either Haener or Rattler can give us more than Carr anytime soon, if at all. I can't see either as more than a serviceable backup. Oh, and as far as we know we already have all the help we need for our o-line in the house right now. Of course, seeing the possibility takes an open mind and some optimism.

05-23-2024, 11:15 AM	#8
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Saints 2024 Projected Win Total 7.5 Originally Posted by BakoSaint It could be said that Carr is 1 year older and playing behind a much less experienced offensive line and facing a less easy schedule of opponents in 2024 than 2023. Last year many said we would have a great record because Lattimore and Thomas's injuries in 2022 were a fluke, but it turns out that with age and risk factors injuries can be a pattern. But in the end its ok. If we don't win a lot of games we still have our own 1st round pick so we have insurance. If we win, great, if we don't, we could be in a position to draft a QB of the future and that position will also help attract better coaching candidates than for example Carolina was able to with no 1st round pick and looking for a coach or we would have been this offseason with a later 1st round pick than our own. As far as the Oline goes there are obviously going to be a lot of new parts. I don’t know if lack of experience is a bad thing. That means getting younger. Especially when we’re switching to a new blocking scheme this off-season anyway. Penning will be more experienced and hopefully healthier. They brought in guys from other teams with experience but past health issues. I’m sure they could have signed Peat had they wanted to. They feel good about moving on. The key is always is going to be health. Can Ram play at all? I heard some of the guys we brought in as free agents had promising starts to their career, but were sidelined by health issues. Can they stay on the field?
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