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K Major 07-24-2024 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 997951)
The Quarterback AINT got it. But like Quido says,
Winning a championship is not the goal.”

Wow :bugeyes:.

Sinner 07-24-2024 11:02 AM

Re: Precedents for the Legend of Klint Kubiak
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 997956)
Definitely not what he wanted based on the glowing numbers he has put up in the past, but most of that was not on him. All in all he performed better than any Saints QB not named Brees going back for decades. We have been spoiled by the great one.

And I'm with you on the new staff.

:bng:

Beyond being spoiled by the great one, we are being ruined by a not so great one.

AsylumGuido 07-26-2024 09:49 AM

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Very good article on the a piece of the implementation of the Kubiak offense.


AsylumGuido 07-27-2024 12:03 PM

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BakoSaint 07-27-2024 12:28 PM

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I think the connection of Klint Kubiak being Kyle Shannahan 2.0 is pretty questionable. They worked together for 1 year. Kubiak has been a journeyman assistant who has been a lot of places. I believe Kubiak was passing game coordinator for Shannahan. In 2006 John Morton was passing game coordinator for the Saints under Payton during a very successful offensive season. Later, Morton became offensive coordinator of the NY Jets. But John Morton was not Sean Payton 2.0. They did not exactly get the Sean Payton offense. Maybe we will get an SF-like offense but who knows. Maybe we will get a poor mans Gary Kubiak offense with our own expensive Matt Schaub.

One question about an SF-like offense is that all that blocking and physicality could lead to injuries. Before McCaffery's luck streak, basically all SF starting RB had an injury every season. Deebo Samuel has had an injury every season. Garappalo had an injury every season. Purdy is 50/50 on ending seasons with injury. Kittle is on and off the field with injury constantly and his effectiveness varies greatly. I could be wrong, but if Kubiak was capable of implementing an SF-like offense here, it could be good to have lots of youth and depth and not tons of money committed to existing talent because we understand who can stay healthy in that type of offense. So like, annointing Hill and Carr as perfect fits for the offense and giving Kamara a big extension assuming success in the offense, that could be a big risk. Keeping draft picks, not trading up and maintaining a quantity of picks, and retaining young players like Shaheed, that could be smart.

AsylumGuido 07-27-2024 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 998197)
I think the connection of Klint Kubiak being Kyle Shannahan 2.0 is pretty questionable. They worked together for 1 year. Kubiak has been a journeyman assistant who has been a lot of places. I believe Kubiak was passing game coordinator for Shannahan. In 2006 John Morton was passing game coordinator for the Saints under Payton during a very successful offensive season. Later, Morton became offensive coordinator of the NY Jets. But John Morton was not Sean Payton 2.0. They did not exactly get the Sean Payton offense. Maybe we will get an SF-like offense but who knows. Maybe we will get a poor mans Gary Kubiak offense with our own expensive Matt Schaub.

One question about an SF-like offense is that all that blocking and physicality could lead to injuries. Before McCaffery's luck streak, basically all SF starting RB had an injury every season. Deebo Samuel has had an injury every season. Garappalo had an injury every season. Purdy is 50/50 on ending seasons with injury. Kittle is on and off the field with injury constantly and his effectiveness varies greatly. I could be wrong, but if Kubiak was capable of implementing an SF-like offense here, it could be good to have lots of youth and depth and not tons of money committed to existing talent because we understand who can stay healthy in that type of offense. So like, annointing Hill and Carr as perfect fits for the offense and giving Kamara a big extension assuming success in the offense, that could be a big risk. Keeping draft picks, not trading up and maintaining a quantity of picks, and retaining young players like Shaheed, that could be smart.

And the perpetual negativity continues to flow. It must be sad to be you. Worse, it must be sad to live with you. :(

Sinner 07-27-2024 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 998197)
I think the connection of Klint Kubiak being Kyle Shannahan 2.0 is pretty questionable. They worked together for 1 year. Kubiak has been a journeyman assistant who has been a lot of places. I believe Kubiak was passing game coordinator for Shannahan. In 2006 John Morton was passing game coordinator for the Saints under Payton during a very successful offensive season. Later, Morton became offensive coordinator of the NY Jets. But John Morton was not Sean Payton 2.0. They did not exactly get the Sean Payton offense. Maybe we will get an SF-like offense but who knows. Maybe we will get a poor mans Gary Kubiak offense with our own expensive Matt Schaub.

One question about an SF-like offense is that all that blocking and physicality could lead to injuries. Before McCaffery's luck streak, basically all SF starting RB had an injury every season. Deebo Samuel has had an injury every season. Garappalo had an injury every season. Purdy is 50/50 on ending seasons with injury. Kittle is on and off the field with injury constantly and his effectiveness varies greatly. I could be wrong, but if Kubiak was capable of implementing an SF-like offense here, it could be good to have lots of youth and depth and not tons of money committed to existing talent because we understand who can stay healthy in that type of offense. So like, annointing Hill and Carr as perfect fits for the offense and giving Kamara a big extension assuming success in the offense, that could be a big risk. Keeping draft picks, not trading up and maintaining a quantity of picks, and retaining young players like Shaheed, that could be smart.

Salient points, as usual. Keep in mind that all that potential for injury will increase Quido’s potential to continue to use injury as an excuse for our pathetic mismanagement of resources.

mapcow 07-27-2024 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 998198)
And the perpetual negativity continues to flow. It must be sad to be you. Worse, it must be sad to live with you. :(

very hateful rhetoric on your part. Haters gonna Hate. fits you well. :beatnik:

AsylumGuido 09-12-2024 09:43 AM

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Crusader 09-12-2024 10:48 AM

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Thats a pretty good bit to listen to.


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