Saints vibe check: Why there's reason to be excited about the new-look offense

Rugby Saint II · 07-07-2024, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I seriously doubt any real fan, Rugs, would want us to miss the playoffs for any reason. When we do make the playoffs this year it'll just go to show everyone how little the flunkies of Bako know. But, haters gonna hate. Ignorance is always bliss.

Oh, and that **** show was flushed along with Pete Carmichael.

You're right. I don't want to have a bad season but if we do DA can go call defense somewhere else next year. I want to win. Badly. Otherwise, I wouldn't be here unless I'm trolling.

AsylumGuido · 07-07-2024, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

You're right. I don't want to have a bad season but if we do DA can go call defense somewhere else next year. I want to win. Badly. Otherwise, I wouldn't be here unless I'm trolling.

Is there a chance that Dennis Allen isn't as horrible as the haters claim? He does have the 3rd best winning percentage of any full time head coach in Saints history. Believe it or not, Allen is also the 5th winningest coach in Saints history after only two years.

Sinner · 07-07-2024, 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Is there a chance that Dennis Allen isn't as horrible as the haters claim? He does have the 3rd best winning percentage of any full time head coach in Saints history. Believe it or not, Allen is also the 5th winningest coach in Saints history after only two years.

“The 5th winningest coach in Saints history…” Over their 57 seasons in the NFL, the Saints have accumulated a record of 412 wins, 468 losses, and 5 ties, which is the tenth-worst all-time regular season record among active franchises. They have also made the playoffs fourteen times and have the eighth-worst playoff record with 10 wins and 13 losses. If Allen is FIFTH on the list of “winningest” coaches in Saints history, we are in serious trouble. Yes. There is a chance he is horrible. You’ll see it again this year.

leilung · 07-08-2024, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Is there a chance that Dennis Allen isn't as horrible as the haters claim? He does have the 3rd best winning percentage of any full time head coach in Saints history. Believe it or not, Allen is also the 5th winningest coach in Saints history after only two years.

I'm willing to see what the team Offense looks like, post-PC. Being #3 in win % is a deceptive stat tho... especially when you look a bit deeper and you see the list he beats out has some pretty infamous names on it AG.

Other sub .500 notables: Ditka, both Bum and Wade Philips, Haslett, Nolan, and Fears.

Mora and SP are the only coaches out of the 17 who had winning records.

Even by the Saints HC measuring stick, that bar is pretty low. DA may have wins, but he's still a HC with a losing record in charge of the Saints (17-18 after 2 years)

Like I said in another thread... I'm acting like I'm from Missouri this season. SHOW ME!

Sinner · 07-08-2024, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by leilung

I'm willing to see what the team Offense looks like, post-PC. Being #3 in win % is a deceptive stat tho... especially when you look a bit deeper and you see the list he beats out has some pretty infamous names on it AG.

Other sub .500 notables: Ditka, both Bum and Wade Philips, Haslett, Nolan, and Fears.

Mora and SP are the only coaches out of the 17 who had winning records.

Even he Saints HC measuring stick, that bar is pretty low. DA may have wins, but he's still a HC with a losing record in charge of the Saints (17-18 after 2 years)

Like I said in another thread... I'm acting like I'm from Missouri this season. SHOW ME!

After a 3–13 finish from a year earlier under “new head coach” Jim Haslett, the Saints finished with a 10–6 record to win the NFC West and advanced to the playoffs for the first time since 1992. They also won their first ever playoff game in franchise history by defeating the defending Super Bowl champion St. Louis Rams (The Greatest Show on Turf) in the wild-card round, with ARRON BROOKS at the helm at QB.

Our Dennis Allen/Derek Carr combination cannot even hold a match to that.

AsylumGuido · 07-08-2024, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by leilung

I'm willing to see what the team Offense looks like, post-PC. Being #3 in win % is a deceptive stat tho... especially when you look a bit deeper and you see the list he beats out has some pretty infamous names on it AG.

Other sub .500 notables: Ditka, both Bum and Wade Philips, Haslett, Nolan, and Fears.

Mora and SP are the only coaches out of the 17 who had winning records.

Even he Saints HC measuring stick, that bar is pretty low. DA may have wins, but he's still a HC with a losing record in charge of the Saints (17-18 after 2 years)

Like I said in another thread... I'm acting like I'm from Missouri this season. SHOW ME!

Let's not forget that the great Sean Payton went 21-27 over a three year stretch in 2014-2016. That's a worse losing record with the Saints than Allen has experienced.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Allen is anything special, but there's no indication he is as bad as some imply. That Raiders team that he was saddled with was one of the most dysfunctional in NFL history.

Sinner · 07-08-2024, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Let's not forget that the great Sean Payton went 21-27 over a three year stretch in 2014-2016. That's a worse losing record with the Saints than Allen has experienced.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Allen is anything special, but there's no indication he is as bad as some imply. That Raiders team that he was saddled with was one of the most dysfunctional in NFL history.

You’re “not saying that Allen is anything special”.
Yet, he is the Saints HEAD COACH, which basically says it all.
I’m sorry brother. A HEAD COACH needs to be something special.

Rugby Saint II · 07-08-2024, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by Sinner

You’re “not saying that Allen is anything special”.
Yet, he is the Saints HEAD COACH, which basically says it all.
I’m sorry brother. A HEAD COACH needs to be something speciall.

True Dat! But in the meantime maybe KK will be the kind of influence that left with Payton.

Boston Saint · 07-08-2024, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

True Dat! But in the meantime maybe KK will be the kind of influence that left with Payton.

Barry Switzer won a SB and he was a crappy head coach.

07-07-2024, 03:26 PM	#1
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,200	Re: Saints vibe check: Why there's reason to be excited about the new-look offense Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I seriously doubt any real fan, Rugs, would want us to miss the playoffs for any reason. When we do make the playoffs this year it'll just go to show everyone how little the flunkies of Bako know. But, haters gonna hate. Ignorance is always bliss. Oh, and that **** show was flushed along with Pete Carmichael. You're right. I don't want to have a bad season but if we do DA can go call defense somewhere else next year. I want to win. Badly. Otherwise, I wouldn't be here unless I'm trolling. AsylumGuido likes this.

07-07-2024, 04:04 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,852	Re: Saints vibe check: Why there's reason to be excited about the new-look offense Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II You're right. I don't want to have a bad season but if we do DA can go call defense somewhere else next year. I want to win. Badly. Otherwise, I wouldn't be here unless I'm trolling. Is there a chance that Dennis Allen isn't as horrible as the haters claim? He does have the 3rd best winning percentage of any full time head coach in Saints history. Believe it or not, Allen is also the 5th winningest coach in Saints history after only two years.

07-07-2024, 10:05 PM	#3
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,072	Re: Saints vibe check: Why there's reason to be excited about the new-look offense Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Is there a chance that Dennis Allen isn't as horrible as the haters claim? He does have the 3rd best winning percentage of any full time head coach in Saints history. Believe it or not, Allen is also the 5th winningest coach in Saints history after only two years. “The 5th winningest coach in Saints history…” Over their 57 seasons in the NFL, the Saints have accumulated a record of 412 wins, 468 losses, and 5 ties, which is the tenth-worst all-time regular season record among active franchises. They have also made the playoffs fourteen times and have the eighth-worst playoff record with 10 wins and 13 losses. If Allen is FIFTH on the list of “winningest” coaches in Saints history, we are in serious trouble. Yes. There is a chance he is horrible. You’ll see it again this year. K Major likes this.
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leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,435	Re: Saints vibe check: Why there's reason to be excited about the new-look offense Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Is there a chance that Dennis Allen isn't as horrible as the haters claim? He does have the 3rd best winning percentage of any full time head coach in Saints history. Believe it or not, Allen is also the 5th winningest coach in Saints history after only two years. I'm willing to see what the team Offense looks like, post-PC. Being #3 in win % is a deceptive stat tho... especially when you look a bit deeper and you see the list he beats out has some pretty infamous names on it AG. Other sub .500 notables: Ditka, both Bum and Wade Philips, Haslett, Nolan, and Fears. Mora and SP are the only coaches out of the 17 who had winning records. Even by the Saints HC measuring stick, that bar is pretty low. DA may have wins, but he's still a HC with a losing record in charge of the Saints (17-18 after 2 years) Like I said in another thread... I'm acting like I'm from Missouri this season. SHOW ME! Sinner likes this.
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07-08-2024, 12:29 PM	#5
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,072	Re: Saints vibe check: Why there's reason to be excited about the new-look offense Originally Posted by leilung I'm willing to see what the team Offense looks like, post-PC. Being #3 in win % is a deceptive stat tho... especially when you look a bit deeper and you see the list he beats out has some pretty infamous names on it AG. Other sub .500 notables: Ditka, both Bum and Wade Philips, Haslett, Nolan, and Fears. Mora and SP are the only coaches out of the 17 who had winning records. Even he Saints HC measuring stick, that bar is pretty low. DA may have wins, but he's still a HC with a losing record in charge of the Saints (17-18 after 2 years) Like I said in another thread... I'm acting like I'm from Missouri this season. SHOW ME! After a 3–13 finish from a year earlier under “new head coach” Jim Haslett, the Saints finished with a 10–6 record to win the NFC West and advanced to the playoffs for the first time since 1992. They also won their first ever playoff game in franchise history by defeating the defending Super Bowl champion St. Louis Rams (The Greatest Show on Turf) in the wild-card round, with ARRON BROOKS at the helm at QB. Our Dennis Allen/Derek Carr combination cannot even hold a match to that.
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07-08-2024, 12:36 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,852	Re: Saints vibe check: Why there's reason to be excited about the new-look offense Originally Posted by leilung I'm willing to see what the team Offense looks like, post-PC. Being #3 in win % is a deceptive stat tho... especially when you look a bit deeper and you see the list he beats out has some pretty infamous names on it AG. Other sub .500 notables: Ditka, both Bum and Wade Philips, Haslett, Nolan, and Fears. Mora and SP are the only coaches out of the 17 who had winning records. Even he Saints HC measuring stick, that bar is pretty low. DA may have wins, but he's still a HC with a losing record in charge of the Saints (17-18 after 2 years) Like I said in another thread... I'm acting like I'm from Missouri this season. SHOW ME! Let's not forget that the great Sean Payton went 21-27 over a three year stretch in 2014-2016. That's a worse losing record with the Saints than Allen has experienced. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Allen is anything special, but there's no indication he is as bad as some imply. That Raiders team that he was saddled with was one of the most dysfunctional in NFL history. leilung likes this.

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Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,072	Re: Saints vibe check: Why there's reason to be excited about the new-look offense Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Let's not forget that the great Sean Payton went 21-27 over a three year stretch in 2014-2016. That's a worse losing record with the Saints than Allen has experienced. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Allen is anything special, but there's no indication he is as bad as some imply. That Raiders team that he was saddled with was one of the most dysfunctional in NFL history. You’re “not saying that Allen is anything special”. Yet, he is the Saints HEAD COACH, which basically says it all. I’m sorry brother. A HEAD COACH needs to be something special. K Major likes this.
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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,200	Re: Saints vibe check: Why there's reason to be excited about the new-look offense Originally Posted by Sinner You’re “not saying that Allen is anything special”. Yet, he is the Saints HEAD COACH, which basically says it all. I’m sorry brother. A HEAD COACH needs to be something speciall. True Dat! But in the meantime maybe KK will be the kind of influence that left with Payton.

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Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Saints vibe check: Why there's reason to be excited about the new-look offense Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II True Dat! But in the meantime maybe KK will be the kind of influence that left with Payton. Barry Switzer won a SB and he was a crappy head coach. Rugby Saint II likes this.