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Touchdown Wire’s Jarrett Bailey ranked Allen 32nd among the NFL’s 32 head coaches.

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Nepotism has always been a huge part of the entire NFL, not just the Saints. Half the great "coaching trees" are figuratively, and sometimes literally, "family trees". Some of us are excited about Klint Kubiak who ...

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Old 07-14-2024, 03:33 PM   #31
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Re: Touchdown Wire’s Jarrett Bailey ranked Allen 32nd among the NFL’s 32 head coaches.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido View Post
Nepotism has always been a huge part of the entire NFL, not just the Saints. Half the great "coaching trees" are figuratively, and sometimes literally, "family trees". Some of us are excited about Klint Kubiak who studied with Kyle Shanahan and father Gary Kubiak mastering the offensive schemes of Mike Shanahan.
Hey, I was just damn glad to see Gary Kubiak out there at minicamp. The more input from proven coaches we can get, the better off we are. I really like Klint Kubiak's choices for his coaching staff. Almost everyone of them are grizzled veterans of the wide zone offense.
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Old 07-14-2024, 11:07 PM   #32
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Hey, I was just damn glad to see Gary Kubiak out there at minicamp. The more input from proven coaches we can get, the better off we are. I really like Klint Kubiak's choices for his coaching staff. Almost everyone of them are grizzled veterans of the wide zone offense.
See? What I started as a pessimistic (somewhat realistic) post, can easily evolve into potential positives (even if potentially unrealistic), without any animosity. 😉

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Old 07-15-2024, 09:34 PM   #33
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Re: Touchdown Wire’s Jarrett Bailey ranked Allen 32nd among the NFL’s 32 head coaches.

This isn’t a glowing endorsement for Dennis Allen. The New Orleans Saints head coach was graded worst among his peers by NBC Sports analyst Patrick Daugherty, clocking in at the bottom of the offseason coach rankings — at least among returning head coaches. The eight first-year coaches were also ranked beneath Allen, but that’s because they’re all relatively unknown quantities.

Unfortunately for Allen, we know exactly what he is and where his shortcomings lie. We’ll let Daugherty explain why Allen was ranked at No. 24 among the 24 head coaches returning from 2023:

“We lost a lot of bad coaches last winter. Arthur Smith, Brandon Staley, Josh McDaniels and Ron Rivera send their regards. That means we are left with the merely mediocre to round out our list. No one is more committed to the bit than Dennis Allen. A defensive coordinator trapped in a head coach’s body, Allen has treated Sean Payton’s leftover offense like a museum heirloom that disintegrates if you touch it. This is an attack that hasn’t innovated in three years, right down to banging Alvin Kamara between the tackles for no reason and rushing Taysom Hill onto the field any time there’s a critical down. Well, it’s not entirely true there’s been no innovation. Allen has decided to find out just how boring Drew Brees-style quarterbacking can become. Andy Dalton pushed the envelope in 2022. Derek Carr reached new heights in 2023. Allen, who admittedly takes care of business on defense, has finally moved on from Payton Ball on offense but replaced it with … Kubiak Ball. Not Gary, but Klint. It’s a fine system in a vacuum. It’s also become mummified under Klint, with no new wrinkles inserted since the Peyton Manning days in Denver. Maybe 2023 49ers passing-game coordinator Klint learned something under coach Kyle Shanahan. That’s what the Saints’ season and Allen’s future employment hinges on: This old Kubiak dog picking up some new Shanahan tricks. I suppose there are worse plans, but I’m not seeing many for 2024.”
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Re: Touchdown Wire’s Jarrett Bailey ranked Allen 32nd among the NFL’s 32 head coaches.

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This isn’t a glowing endorsement for Dennis Allen. The New Orleans Saints head coach was graded worst among his peers by NBC Sports analyst Patrick Daugherty, clocking in at the bottom of the offseason coach rankings — at least among returning head coaches. The eight first-year coaches were also ranked beneath Allen, but that’s because they’re all relatively unknown quantities.

Unfortunately for Allen, we know exactly what he is and where his shortcomings lie. We’ll let Daugherty explain why Allen was ranked at No. 24 among the 24 head coaches returning from 2023:

“We lost a lot of bad coaches last winter. Arthur Smith, Brandon Staley, Josh McDaniels and Ron Rivera send their regards. That means we are left with the merely mediocre to round out our list. No one is more committed to the bit than Dennis Allen. A defensive coordinator trapped in a head coach’s body, Allen has treated Sean Payton’s leftover offense like a museum heirloom that disintegrates if you touch it. This is an attack that hasn’t innovated in three years, right down to banging Alvin Kamara between the tackles for no reason and rushing Taysom Hill onto the field any time there’s a critical down. Well, it’s not entirely true there’s been no innovation. Allen has decided to find out just how boring Drew Brees-style quarterbacking can become. Andy Dalton pushed the envelope in 2022. Derek Carr reached new heights in 2023. Allen, who admittedly takes care of business on defense, has finally moved on from Payton Ball on offense but replaced it with … Kubiak Ball. Not Gary, but Klint. It’s a fine system in a vacuum. It’s also become mummified under Klint, with no new wrinkles inserted since the Peyton Manning days in Denver. Maybe 2023 49ers passing-game coordinator Klint learned something under coach Kyle Shanahan. That’s what the Saints’ season and Allen’s future employment hinges on: This old Kubiak dog picking up some new Shanahan tricks. I suppose there are worse plans, but I’m not seeing many for 2024.”
Your typical trash. You liked this one so much you posted it in two different threads.

This is just typical for national media "Mom! I don't like them. They are boring me..."

Any team that doesn't have Mahommes, or Allen, or Jackson dazzling them every 3rd play gets this label.

So of course they will rank Allen below coaches who did worse than he did last year. Because he's boring.

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Old 07-16-2024, 02:05 AM   #35
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Re: Touchdown Wire’s Jarrett Bailey ranked Allen 32nd among the NFL’s 32 head coaches.

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Your typical trash. You liked this one so much you posted it in two different threads.

This is just typical for national media "Mom! I don't like them. They are boring me..."

Any team that doesn't have Mahommes, or Allen, or Jackson dazzling them every 3rd play gets this label.

So of course they will rank Allen below coaches who did worse than he did last year. Because he's boring.

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Yes. He is boring.
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