Reasons To Be Positive

AsylumGuido · 07-10-2024, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

YOU DO YOU! Of course you are asking me to do something. You are asking me to let you complain in peace.

Your complaining is unproductive because absolutely nothing comes of it. At least make it productive by telling us how the Saints turn this around to your satisfaction. Who out there is our Brad Veach and Andy Reid. What can a new GM do that Loomis isn't doing now, which is obviously keeping Dennis Allen instead of getting rid of him and bringing someone else in. Who is that someone else?

Look at the 2024 coaching class. Anyone there you would have replaced Allen for? Who would have a good fit here. My brother wanted Jim Harbaugh in the worst way.

Here a list of 2025 HC prospects. Can any of them turn the franchise around in your mind?

Ben Johnson, Lions OC.
Pete Carroll, former Seahawks HC. ...
Ejiro Evero, Panthers DC. ...
Aaron Glenn, Lions DC. ...
Shane Waldron, Bears OC. ...
Brian Flores, Vikings DC. ...
Frank Smith, Dolphins OC. ...
Al Harris, Cowboys assistant. ...
Mike Vrable
Bill Belechik

BTW this isn't just for Sinner. Everyone is free to join in.

SFIAH

Honestly I don't see anyone on that list that would come with any guarantees of making things at the top any better. I seriously think the game has passed both Belichick and Pete Carroll by. The only other one with a decent bit of HC experience is Vrabel and after his somewhat hot start (aided tremendously by one Derrick Henry) his final two years were a dismal 7-10 and 6-11.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 07-10-2024, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Honestly I don't see anyone on that list that would come with any guarantees of making things at the top any better. I seriously think the game has passed both Belichick and Pete Carroll by. The only other one with a decent bit of HC experience is Vrabel and after his somewhat hot start (aided tremendously by one Derrick Henry) his final two years were a dismal 7-10 and 6-11.

Kind of misses the point, Guido. Every change in an organization comes with a vision and a plan of how to move the organization forward to achieve the stated goals.

For example, it's clear that the Saints transition from Sean Payton was to keep the boat steady, transition without drowning after Brees' exit, and continue to be playoff level contenders in the NFL. Allen has so far fallen short of that vision. Of course, some fans believe it's an unmitigated disaster being 3 years out of the playoffs.

Many want Allen changed out. Some want Loomis replaced. If this happens, then what vision will a replacement bring that will elevate the team beyond it's current status.

Our friend Sinner has no clue what that is. Just giving him some choices so that he can tell us how some of these folks could possibly fill the vision that he really really wants.

There's no need for you or I to entertain this. We can actually talk about Allen, Kubiak, and the 60 or so players that have a realistic chance of making the 2024 squad. We can talk about the fact that in the first 6 games if the Saints can win the 3 division games plus at least one against Dallas, Philly, or KC, that would essentially be in control of the division after 6 games with a much lighter schedule for the last 11. We can talk about how a new offensive scheme can maximize the talent that we have. Of course in Sinners eyes any or all of these makes you a rose colored glasses, Kumbaya, mediocre accepting wannabe Saints fan.

So, Sinner can't talk about any of that. He is blocked by the fact that Loomis is still the GM and Allen is still the head coach and that there is no chance of that changing before January 2025.

So, prospects for replacement is something he can focus on. So, let him have at it.

SFIAH

07-10-2024, 02:24 PM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,714	Re: Reasons To Be Positive Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL YOU DO YOU! Of course you are asking me to do something. You are asking me to let you complain in peace. Your complaining is unproductive because absolutely nothing comes of it. At least make it productive by telling us how the Saints turn this around to your satisfaction. Who out there is our Brad Veach and Andy Reid. What can a new GM do that Loomis isn't doing now, which is obviously keeping Dennis Allen instead of getting rid of him and bringing someone else in. Who is that someone else? Look at the 2024 coaching class. Anyone there you would have replaced Allen for? Who would have a good fit here. My brother wanted Jim Harbaugh in the worst way. Here a list of 2025 HC prospects. Can any of them turn the franchise around in your mind? Ben Johnson, Lions OC. Pete Carroll, former Seahawks HC. ... Ejiro Evero, Panthers DC. ... Aaron Glenn, Lions DC. ... Shane Waldron, Bears OC. ... Brian Flores, Vikings DC. ... Frank Smith, Dolphins OC. ... Al Harris, Cowboys assistant. ... Mike Vrable Bill Belechik BTW this isn't just for Sinner. Everyone is free to join in. SFIAH Honestly I don't see anyone on that list that would come with any guarantees of making things at the top any better. I seriously think the game has passed both Belichick and Pete Carroll by. The only other one with a decent bit of HC experience is Vrabel and after his somewhat hot start (aided tremendously by one Derrick Henry) his final two years were a dismal 7-10 and 6-11.

07-10-2024, 02:43 PM	#2
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,786	Re: Reasons To Be Positive Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Honestly I don't see anyone on that list that would come with any guarantees of making things at the top any better. I seriously think the game has passed both Belichick and Pete Carroll by. The only other one with a decent bit of HC experience is Vrabel and after his somewhat hot start (aided tremendously by one Derrick Henry) his final two years were a dismal 7-10 and 6-11. Kind of misses the point, Guido. Every change in an organization comes with a vision and a plan of how to move the organization forward to achieve the stated goals. For example, it's clear that the Saints transition from Sean Payton was to keep the boat steady, transition without drowning after Brees' exit, and continue to be playoff level contenders in the NFL. Allen has so far fallen short of that vision. Of course, some fans believe it's an unmitigated disaster being 3 years out of the playoffs. Many want Allen changed out. Some want Loomis replaced. If this happens, then what vision will a replacement bring that will elevate the team beyond it's current status. Our friend Sinner has no clue what that is. Just giving him some choices so that he can tell us how some of these folks could possibly fill the vision that he really really wants. There's no need for you or I to entertain this. We can actually talk about Allen, Kubiak, and the 60 or so players that have a realistic chance of making the 2024 squad. We can talk about the fact that in the first 6 games if the Saints can win the 3 division games plus at least one against Dallas, Philly, or KC, that would essentially be in control of the division after 6 games with a much lighter schedule for the last 11. We can talk about how a new offensive scheme can maximize the talent that we have. Of course in Sinners eyes any or all of these makes you a rose colored glasses, Kumbaya, mediocre accepting wannabe Saints fan. So, Sinner can't talk about any of that. He is blocked by the fact that Loomis is still the GM and Allen is still the head coach and that there is no chance of that changing before January 2025. So, prospects for replacement is something he can focus on. So, let him have at it. SFIAH
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