Same team, same coach, same owner went 9-8 last year. What happened such that they could not win one more game than last year?

As for fans and mediocrity reasonable people make a choice between being a fan of the team that they have or stop being a fan. Both are fine. What is not fine is what you are doing, which is is you are no longer a fan because they are not a championship caliber squad anymore, and you are determined to take any fan that is willing to follow the team as it's constructed and dump trash on them until they stop.

The rest of us here have put up with this for far too long. Your whining about what the Saints are now is just pointless. It's time to pack up and go to training camp. There's no longer time or space here to have you guys trash dumping on a daily basis. That part of the season is over and done with.

Face it. You have the same team. You have the same coach. You have the same owner. You already know what the results are going to be. So, you can just leave and come back in January when the team, or coach, or maybe the owner may be different.

But dammit until then just leave us the hell alone in peace so we can talk about the same team, the same coach, and the same owner in our "mediocrity".

SFIAH

“Face it. You have the same team. You have the same coach. You have the same owner. You already know what the results are going to be.”

^^^TRUTH