Nope. There is exactly one CHAMPIONSHIP CALIBER franchise in the NFL: the Kansas City Chiefs. No one else is close. Everyone else has their ifs also.

2 years ago Philly was a championship caliber franchise. They were in the SuperBowl. Last year they fell apart. LA Rams reached the top once, and are pretty mid now.

GM/HC/QB combos are magical when they work. Payton/Brees, Belichik/Brady, Reid/Mahommes. But they are no plucked off trees, or organizations that naturally grow them.

I realize now that you have a flawed notion of how championship football works. You can have the best combos in the world (McDermott/Allen,Harbaugh/Jackson) and never still actually climb the mountain to the top.

And every one of these except for Reid/Mahommes have ifs.

SFIAH

mansplain.... Truth hurts.

No sir. I'm the one here to talk about you. Though I agree with Iceshack's general sentiment that you should take your whining elsewhere.

You have still not posted one single positive item about this year's squad. Every one of your post is how terrible they are, how the organization is mismanaged, and how you miss Payton and Brees.

SFIAH

You keep saying that 'Truth hurts' as if no one recognizes that the organization could be better. But none of you never ever ever EVER! tell truth about how to fix it, or who to get that can fix it.

Because you don't have a clue about how to do it. Truth hurts.

SFIAH

facts... not trash. Saints bring it upon themselves. What is a shame, is that you cannot see it, and obviously the people in charge of the Saints organization don't care .

TRASH. TRASH! TRASH!

That's all you know how to do. This is nearly the same front office that brought you a SuperBowl and multiple championship quality teams. Do you really think one day they just said "We don't need to try amymore. It doesn't matter."?

Their jobs are hard. Building an entire organization that can consistently compete is hard.

You, and that other one, never ever ever want to make any suggestion about how you can actually make it better. All you want to do is trash the teams here and call it "facts."

The fact is that you don't know how to fix it. But yet you want to come here and trash the Saints organization because they have the same challenges.

Put up or shut up! Give us some idea of how to fix this beyond Fire Allen or just keep your facts, and truth, and TRASH that nobody wants to hear anymore to yourself.

I know that you think if you just keep posting one liners, that eventually I'm going to give up. I'm not. Because I have a plan. I will challenge you everywhere on this board until you two put it some real ideas on how to fix this.

SFIAH

Nope.... Saints board is EXACTLY the place to voice my opinion and disapporval of the current situation with the Saints. otherwise those that do have the power to change things see it. After all, they MUST be reading it. They see all you other fans so Excited about the upcoming season.... I for one, want them to see a disgruntled "baby boomer" fan's opinion and said disgruntled view.

No it's not. Not every day. Not every post. Not in every thread. It's not for that. You can address Loomis and his staff directly. You don't need to post here for him or his guys to see it. The chances that any of them pay any attention to this fan forum is exactly zero.

So, all you're succeeding in doing is pissing us off. And now you and your little buddy have finally done it with me.

I am telling you. We don't want to hear this every damn day. If you have issues with the Saints organization, go take it up with them.

SFIAH

why.... same team, same coach, same owner, same fans that like mediocracy.

facts are facts. reality is reality.... dreaming is dreaming.