Reasons To Be Positive

Sinner · 07-16-2024, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

Nope. There is exactly one CHAMPIONSHIP CALIBER franchise in the NFL: the Kansas City Chiefs. No one else is close. Everyone else has their ifs also.

2 years ago Philly was a championship caliber franchise. They were in the SuperBowl. Last year they fell apart. LA Rams reached the top once, and are pretty mid now.

GM/HC/QB combos are magical when they work. Payton/Brees, Belichik/Brady, Reid/Mahommes. But they are no plucked off trees, or organizations that naturally grow them.

I realize now that you have a flawed notion of how championship football works. You can have the best combos in the world (McDermott/Allen,Harbaugh/Jackson) and never still actually climb the mountain to the top.

And every one of these except for Reid/Mahommes have ifs.

SFIAH

“Ifs” and all… I’ll start with the team that WON THE PATHETIC NFC SOUTH this past season, then pan across the league to all of the teams with a better percentage than us, with more charismatic coaches, better organized systems and better utilized play makers… (Rams weren’t pretty “mid” when they totally dominated us on Thursday Night Football)… all the way up to the “PLAYOFFS?!?”… And here we are (again) saying “Let’s see how things go over the next few decades”…

Pathetic actually.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 07-16-2024, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by mapcow

mansplain.... Truth hurts.

You keep saying that 'Truth hurts' as if no one recognizes that the organization could be better. But none of you never ever ever EVER! tell truth about how to fix it, or who to get that can fix it.

Because you don't have a clue about how to do it. Truth hurts.

SFIAH

Sinner · 07-16-2024, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

No sir. I'm the one here to talk about you. Though I agree with Iceshack's general sentiment that you should take your whining elsewhere.

You have still not posted one single positive item about this year's squad. Every one of your post is how terrible they are, how the organization is mismanaged, and how you miss Payton and Brees.

SFIAH

Truth.

Sinner · 07-16-2024, 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

You keep saying that 'Truth hurts' as if no one recognizes that the organization could be better. But none of you never ever ever EVER! tell truth about how to fix it, or who to get that can fix it.

Because you don't have a clue about how to do it. Truth hurts.

SFIAH

You DO realize that we’re going to be having this same conversation this time next year, right? GOTTA HURT… Lil bit? LMFAO.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 07-16-2024, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by mapcow

facts... not trash. Saints bring it upon themselves. What is a shame, is that you cannot see it, and obviously the people in charge of the Saints organization don't care .

TRASH. TRASH! TRASH!

That's all you know how to do. This is nearly the same front office that brought you a SuperBowl and multiple championship quality teams. Do you really think one day they just said "We don't need to try amymore. It doesn't matter."?

Their jobs are hard. Building an entire organization that can consistently compete is hard.

You, and that other one, never ever ever want to make any suggestion about how you can actually make it better. All you want to do is trash the teams here and call it "facts."

The fact is that you don't know how to fix it. But yet you want to come here and trash the Saints organization because they have the same challenges.

Put up or shut up! Give us some idea of how to fix this beyond Fire Allen or just keep your facts, and truth, and TRASH that nobody wants to hear anymore to yourself.

I know that you think if you just keep posting one liners, that eventually I'm going to give up. I'm not. Because I have a plan. I will challenge you everywhere on this board until you two put it some real ideas on how to fix this.

SFIAH

Sinner · 07-16-2024, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

TRASH. TRASH! TRASH!

That's all you know how to do. This is nearly the same front office that brought you a SuperBowl and multiple championship quality teams. Do you really think one day they just said "We don't need to try amymore. It doesn't matter."?

Their jobs are hard. Building an entire organization that can consistently compete is hard.

You, and that other one, never ever ever want to make any suggestion about how you can actually make it better. All you want to do is trash the teams here and call it "facts."

The fact is that you don't know how to fix it. But yet you want to come here and trash the Saints organization because they have the same challenges.

Put up or shut up! Give us some idea of how to fix this beyond Fire Allen or just keep your facts, and truth, and TRASH that nobody wants to hear anymore to yourself.

I know that you think if you just keep posting one liners, that eventually I'm going to give up. I'm not. Because I have a plan. I will challenge you everywhere on this board until you two put it some real ideas on how to fix this.

SFIAH

LMFAO… Hey Map… Their jobs are hard! HARD I tell ya… But YOU are supposed to fix this.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 07-16-2024, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by mapcow

Nope.... Saints board is EXACTLY the place to voice my opinion and disapporval of the current situation with the Saints. otherwise those that do have the power to change things see it. After all, they MUST be reading it. They see all you other fans so Excited about the upcoming season.... I for one, want them to see a disgruntled "baby boomer" fan's opinion and said disgruntled view.

No it's not. Not every day. Not every post. Not in every thread. It's not for that. You can address Loomis and his staff directly. You don't need to post here for him or his guys to see it. The chances that any of them pay any attention to this fan forum is exactly zero.

So, all you're succeeding in doing is pissing us off. And now you and your little buddy have finally done it with me.

I am telling you. We don't want to hear this every damn day. If you have issues with the Saints organization, go take it up with them.

SFIAH

Sinner · 07-16-2024, 08:08 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

No it's not. Not every day. Not every post. Not in every thread. It's not for that. You can address Loomis and his staff directly. You don't need to post here for him or his guys to see it. The chances that any of them pay any attention to this fan forum is exactly zero.

So, all you're succeeding in doing is pissing us off. And now you and your little buddy have finally done it with me.

I am telling you. We don't want to hear this every damn day. If you have issues with the Saints organization, go take it up with them.

SFIAH

You really need to contact Quido. He has found a way to carry on with his life here, and elsewhere I’m sure. SINcerely.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 07-16-2024, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by mapcow

why.... same team, same coach, same owner, same fans that like mediocracy.

Same team, same coach, same owner went 9-8 last year. What happened such that they could not win one more game than last year?

As for fans and mediocrity reasonable people make a choice between being a fan of the team that they have or stop being a fan. Both are fine. What is not fine is what you are doing, which is is you are no longer a fan because they are not a championship caliber squad anymore, and you are determined to take any fan that is willing to follow the team as it's constructed and dump trash on them until they stop.

The rest of us here have put up with this for far too long. Your whining about what the Saints are now is just pointless. It's time to pack up and go to training camp. There's no longer time or space here to have you guys trash dumping on a daily basis. That part of the season is over and done with.

Face it. You have the same team. You have the same coach. You have the same owner. You already know what the results are going to be. So, you can just leave and come back in January when the team, or coach, or maybe the owner may be different.

But dammit until then just leave us the hell alone in peace so we can talk about the same team, the same coach, and the same owner in our "mediocrity".

SFIAH

SaintFanInATLHELL · 07-16-2024, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by mapcow

facts are facts. reality is reality.... dreaming is dreaming.

And trash is trash. And that's all you spew.

Go do it somewhere else.

SFIAH

07-16-2024, 07:48 PM	#221
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,873	Re: Reasons To Be Positive Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL Nope. There is exactly one CHAMPIONSHIP CALIBER franchise in the NFL: the Kansas City Chiefs. No one else is close. Everyone else has their ifs also. 2 years ago Philly was a championship caliber franchise. They were in the SuperBowl. Last year they fell apart. LA Rams reached the top once, and are pretty mid now. GM/HC/QB combos are magical when they work. Payton/Brees, Belichik/Brady, Reid/Mahommes. But they are no plucked off trees, or organizations that naturally grow them. I realize now that you have a flawed notion of how championship football works. You can have the best combos in the world (McDermott/Allen,Harbaugh/Jackson) and never still actually climb the mountain to the top. And every one of these except for Reid/Mahommes have ifs. SFIAH “Ifs” and all… I’ll start with the team that WON THE PATHETIC NFC SOUTH this past season, then pan across the league to all of the teams with a better percentage than us, with more charismatic coaches, better organized systems and better utilized play makers… (Rams weren’t pretty “mid” when they totally dominated us on Thursday Night Football)… all the way up to the “PLAYOFFS?!?”… And here we are (again) saying “Let’s see how things go over the next few decades”… Pathetic actually.
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07-16-2024, 07:51 PM	#222
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Re: Reasons To Be Positive Originally Posted by mapcow mansplain.... Truth hurts. You keep saying that 'Truth hurts' as if no one recognizes that the organization could be better. But none of you never ever ever EVER! tell truth about how to fix it, or who to get that can fix it. Because you don't have a clue about how to do it. Truth hurts. SFIAH AsylumGuido likes this.

07-16-2024, 07:53 PM	#223
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,873	Re: Reasons To Be Positive Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL No sir. I'm the one here to talk about you. Though I agree with Iceshack's general sentiment that you should take your whining elsewhere. You have still not posted one single positive item about this year's squad. Every one of your post is how terrible they are, how the organization is mismanaged, and how you miss Payton and Brees. SFIAH Truth.
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07-16-2024, 07:55 PM	#224
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,873	Re: Reasons To Be Positive Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL You keep saying that 'Truth hurts' as if no one recognizes that the organization could be better. But none of you never ever ever EVER! tell truth about how to fix it, or who to get that can fix it. Because you don't have a clue about how to do it. Truth hurts. SFIAH You DO realize that we’re going to be having this same conversation this time next year, right? GOTTA HURT… Lil bit? LMFAO.
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07-16-2024, 07:59 PM	#225
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Re: Reasons To Be Positive Originally Posted by mapcow facts... not trash. Saints bring it upon themselves. What is a shame, is that you cannot see it, and obviously the people in charge of the Saints organization don't care . TRASH. TRASH! TRASH! That's all you know how to do. This is nearly the same front office that brought you a SuperBowl and multiple championship quality teams. Do you really think one day they just said "We don't need to try amymore. It doesn't matter."? Their jobs are hard. Building an entire organization that can consistently compete is hard. You, and that other one, never ever ever want to make any suggestion about how you can actually make it better. All you want to do is trash the teams here and call it "facts." The fact is that you don't know how to fix it. But yet you want to come here and trash the Saints organization because they have the same challenges. Put up or shut up! Give us some idea of how to fix this beyond Fire Allen or just keep your facts, and truth, and TRASH that nobody wants to hear anymore to yourself. I know that you think if you just keep posting one liners, that eventually I'm going to give up. I'm not. Because I have a plan. I will challenge you everywhere on this board until you two put it some real ideas on how to fix this. SFIAH AsylumGuido likes this.
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07-16-2024, 08:01 PM	#226
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,873	Re: Reasons To Be Positive Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL TRASH. TRASH! TRASH! That's all you know how to do. This is nearly the same front office that brought you a SuperBowl and multiple championship quality teams. Do you really think one day they just said "We don't need to try amymore. It doesn't matter."? Their jobs are hard. Building an entire organization that can consistently compete is hard. You, and that other one, never ever ever want to make any suggestion about how you can actually make it better. All you want to do is trash the teams here and call it "facts." The fact is that you don't know how to fix it. But yet you want to come here and trash the Saints organization because they have the same challenges. Put up or shut up! Give us some idea of how to fix this beyond Fire Allen or just keep your facts, and truth, and TRASH that nobody wants to hear anymore to yourself. I know that you think if you just keep posting one liners, that eventually I'm going to give up. I'm not. Because I have a plan. I will challenge you everywhere on this board until you two put it some real ideas on how to fix this. SFIAH LMFAO… Hey Map… Their jobs are hard! HARD I tell ya… But YOU are supposed to fix this.
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07-16-2024, 08:03 PM	#227
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Re: Reasons To Be Positive Originally Posted by mapcow Nope.... Saints board is EXACTLY the place to voice my opinion and disapporval of the current situation with the Saints. otherwise those that do have the power to change things see it. After all, they MUST be reading it. They see all you other fans so Excited about the upcoming season.... I for one, want them to see a disgruntled "baby boomer" fan's opinion and said disgruntled view. No it's not. Not every day. Not every post. Not in every thread. It's not for that. You can address Loomis and his staff directly. You don't need to post here for him or his guys to see it. The chances that any of them pay any attention to this fan forum is exactly zero. So, all you're succeeding in doing is pissing us off. And now you and your little buddy have finally done it with me. I am telling you. We don't want to hear this every damn day. If you have issues with the Saints organization, go take it up with them. SFIAH AsylumGuido likes this.
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07-16-2024, 08:08 PM	#228
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,873	Re: Reasons To Be Positive Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL No it's not. Not every day. Not every post. Not in every thread. It's not for that. You can address Loomis and his staff directly. You don't need to post here for him or his guys to see it. The chances that any of them pay any attention to this fan forum is exactly zero. So, all you're succeeding in doing is pissing us off. And now you and your little buddy have finally done it with me. I am telling you. We don't want to hear this every damn day. If you have issues with the Saints organization, go take it up with them. SFIAH You really need to contact Quido. He has found a way to carry on with his life here, and elsewhere I’m sure. SINcerely.
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07-16-2024, 08:13 PM	#229
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Re: Reasons To Be Positive Originally Posted by mapcow why.... same team, same coach, same owner, same fans that like mediocracy. Same team, same coach, same owner went 9-8 last year. What happened such that they could not win one more game than last year? As for fans and mediocrity reasonable people make a choice between being a fan of the team that they have or stop being a fan. Both are fine. What is not fine is what you are doing, which is is you are no longer a fan because they are not a championship caliber squad anymore, and you are determined to take any fan that is willing to follow the team as it's constructed and dump trash on them until they stop. The rest of us here have put up with this for far too long. Your whining about what the Saints are now is just pointless. It's time to pack up and go to training camp. There's no longer time or space here to have you guys trash dumping on a daily basis. That part of the season is over and done with. Face it. You have the same team. You have the same coach. You have the same owner. You already know what the results are going to be. So, you can just leave and come back in January when the team, or coach, or maybe the owner may be different. But dammit until then just leave us the hell alone in peace so we can talk about the same team, the same coach, and the same owner in our "mediocrity". SFIAH AsylumGuido likes this.
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07-16-2024, 08:14 PM	#230
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Re: Reasons To Be Positive Originally Posted by mapcow facts are facts. reality is reality.... dreaming is dreaming. And trash is trash. And that's all you spew. Go do it somewhere else. SFIAH AsylumGuido likes this.