The 2024 Sunshine Oasis: Positive Saints Talk Only

SaintFanInATLHELL · 07-20-2024, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Haters gonna hate. Even in a designated positive only thread. Sad.

Guido, this is the easiest way to start steering a thread left. Let's for now just let it go without comment, please. I've made my one public statement on the issue. I do not plan to speak on it again here.

A spin on my initial question: What are you looking most forward to in camp when it starts next week?

SFIAH

SaintFanInATLHELL · 07-20-2024, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by Cruize

They are undefeated and injuries are at a minimum.

Undefeated over what time frame? The preseason?

Definitely agree that I hope that injuries get under control this season.

SFIAH

AsylumGuido · 07-20-2024, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

Guido, this is the easiest way to start steering a thread left. Let's for now just let it go without comment, please. I've made my one public statement on the issue. I do not plan to speak on it again here.

A spin on my initial question: What are you looking most forward to in camp when it starts next week?

SFIAH

My bad. I'll not dip to that level again.

mapcow · 07-21-2024, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Haters gonna hate. Even in a designated positive only thread. Sad.

No hate... just factual.

mapcow · 07-21-2024, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

My bad. I'll not dip to that level again.

too late.

AsylumGuido · 07-22-2024, 08:04 AM

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AsylumGuido · 07-22-2024, 08:09 AM

A healthy Payton Turner is indeed positive news! Now if Foskey's off-season work on technique comes through DE may end up being a major strength for the 2024 Saints.

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turbo_dog · 07-22-2024, 01:33 PM

Curious to see how the run game looks under Kubiak. I was a big fan when his dad was in Denver and how much he got out of the RB position, even from players who were not thought of as potentially great.

Other than Davis and Werner, do we have any linebackers? Willie Gay is a question mark still. Seriously, do we have any others?

OL - who plays where, and can they stay healthy?

Very excited to see the WR battle in camp and pre-season. There's a chance this could be the best position group on the team and perhaps the best group in the history of the Saints.

AsylumGuido · 07-22-2024, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by turbo_dog

Curious to see how the run game looks under Kubiak. I was a big fan when his dad was in Denver and how much he got out of the RB position, even from players who were not thought of as potentially great.

Other than Davis and Werner, do we have any linebackers? Willie Gay is a question mark still. Seriously, do we have any others?

OL - who plays where, and can they stay healthy?

Very excited to see the WR battle in camp and pre-season. There's a chance this could be the best position group on the team and perhaps the best group in the history of the Saints.

PFF ranks Willie Gay as the 31st best LB in the league for 2024. Demario Davis is #3, of course. We're the only team in the league with two in the top 32.

Our whole staff at this point are as follows ...

WLB	20	Werner, Pete 21/2	45	Sewell, Nephi PUP	52	Jackson, D'Marco 22/5	44	Stalbird, Isaiah CF24
MLB	56	DAVIS, DEMARIO U/NYJ	53	Ford, Jaylan 24/5	58	Orji, Anfernee CF23
SLB	6	Gay, Willie U/KC	47	Hudson, Khaleke U/Was	59	Rice, Monty W/Ten

I know the team is really high on both Orji and the 5th round selection, Jaylon Ford.

AsylumGuido · 07-22-2024, 03:16 PM

For anyone concerned about Dennis Allen doing the same things over and over ...

How suddenly 'cool' Saints coach Dennis Allen is hoping to change himself – and the Saints

When training camp begins Wednesday in Irvine, California, Allen will look to build upon the camaraderie that he has spent so much of the last few months establishing with players. In a season that’s setting up to be crucial for his job security, Allen told the Times-Picayune he determined the Saints needed “significant change.” That change was headlined by a new offensive staff, but the full extent of Allen’s vision went deeper.

If the Saints needed to change, Allen needed to change with them. The messages players heard for years from the no-nonsense, defensive-minded teacher had to be presented differently.

No matter how much it takes them by surprise.

“You could tell guys in the room, they’re like, 'DA is cool now,' ” safety Tyrann Mathieu said.

...

Then this year, Allen scrapped most of his offensive staff. Out went Pete Carmichael and in came Klint Kubiak.

“Continuity is important,” Allen said. “But continuity is only important if you’re continuing to get the results you’re looking for.

“To have continuity and not have the results is insanity.”

Much more here ...

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07-20-2024, 05:57 PM	#21
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,758	Re: The 2024 Sunshine Oasis: Positive Saints Talk Only Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Haters gonna hate. Even in a designated positive only thread. Sad. Guido, this is the easiest way to start steering a thread left. Let's for now just let it go without comment, please. I've made my one public statement on the issue. I do not plan to speak on it again here. A spin on my initial question: What are you looking most forward to in camp when it starts next week? SFIAH Crusader and Rugby Saint II like this.

07-20-2024, 06:00 PM	#22
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,758	Re: The 2024 Sunshine Oasis: Positive Saints Talk Only Originally Posted by Cruize They are undefeated and injuries are at a minimum. Undefeated over what time frame? The preseason? Definitely agree that I hope that injuries get under control this season. SFIAH

07-20-2024, 06:15 PM	#23
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 25,556	Re: The 2024 Sunshine Oasis: Positive Saints Talk Only Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL Guido, this is the easiest way to start steering a thread left. Let's for now just let it go without comment, please. I've made my one public statement on the issue. I do not plan to speak on it again here. A spin on my initial question: What are you looking most forward to in camp when it starts next week? SFIAH My bad. I'll not dip to that level again. SaintFanInATLHELL, Rugby Saint II and jlouhill like this.

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mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,674	Re: The 2024 Sunshine Oasis: Positive Saints Talk Only Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Haters gonna hate. Even in a designated positive only thread. Sad. No hate... just factual.
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mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,674	Re: The 2024 Sunshine Oasis: Positive Saints Talk Only Originally Posted by AsylumGuido My bad. I'll not dip to that level again. too late.
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turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,564	Re: The 2024 Sunshine Oasis: Positive Saints Talk Only Curious to see how the run game looks under Kubiak. I was a big fan when his dad was in Denver and how much he got out of the RB position, even from players who were not thought of as potentially great. Other than Davis and Werner, do we have any linebackers? Willie Gay is a question mark still. Seriously, do we have any others? OL - who plays where, and can they stay healthy? Very excited to see the WR battle in camp and pre-season. There's a chance this could be the best position group on the team and perhaps the best group in the history of the Saints. Crusader likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 25,556	Re: The 2024 Sunshine Oasis: Positive Saints Talk Only For anyone concerned about Dennis Allen doing the same things over and over ... How suddenly 'cool' Saints coach Dennis Allen is hoping to change himself – and the Saints Twitter When training camp begins Wednesday in Irvine, California, Allen will look to build upon the camaraderie that he has spent so much of the last few months establishing with players. In a season that’s setting up to be crucial for his job security, Allen told the Times-Picayune he determined the Saints needed “significant change.” That change was headlined by a new offensive staff, but the full extent of Allen’s vision went deeper. If the Saints needed to change, Allen needed to change with them. The messages players heard for years from the no-nonsense, defensive-minded teacher had to be presented differently. No matter how much it takes them by surprise. “You could tell guys in the room, they’re like, 'DA is cool now,' ” safety Tyrann Mathieu said. ... Then this year, Allen scrapped most of his offensive staff. Out went Pete Carmichael and in came Klint Kubiak. “Continuity is important,” Allen said. “But continuity is only important if you’re continuing to get the results you’re looking for. “To have continuity and not have the results is insanity.” Much more here ... Crusader likes this.
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