The 2024 Sunshine Oasis: Positive Saints Talk Only

SaintFanInATLHELL · 07-20-2024, 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I know. It's crazy. Right?

Well, that didn't take long.....

No, unfortunately it didn't.

I made a specific request to Sinner to stay out of this thread. He has honored that request and I am very appreciative that he has done so.

My request did not specifically extend to the Cow. I am hoping that he will keep the tone down. So, until now I've left it alone. And for now I suggest that everyone else do the same.

If it gets out of hand, I'll address it.

So, for now folks let's just keep the positive vibes going. Rookies have already reported. Everyone will be in on Tuesday. Let's see how quickly things can come together so that the Saints in 2024 can make an impact by doing 2 things:

1. Winning the first 3 division games in the first 6 weeks.
2. Finding a way to upset Dallas or Philly.

That would at minimum have us 4-2 after 6 weeks and 3-0 in the division. That's a setup for making some noise this season.

SFIAH

turbo_dog · 07-22-2024, 01:33 PM

Curious to see how the run game looks under Kubiak. I was a big fan when his dad was in Denver and how much he got out of the RB position, even from players who were not thought of as potentially great.

Other than Davis and Werner, do we have any linebackers? Willie Gay is a question mark still. Seriously, do we have any others?

OL - who plays where, and can they stay healthy?

Very excited to see the WR battle in camp and pre-season. There's a chance this could be the best position group on the team and perhaps the best group in the history of the Saints.

AsylumGuido · 07-22-2024, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by turbo_dog

Curious to see how the run game looks under Kubiak. I was a big fan when his dad was in Denver and how much he got out of the RB position, even from players who were not thought of as potentially great.

Other than Davis and Werner, do we have any linebackers? Willie Gay is a question mark still. Seriously, do we have any others?

OL - who plays where, and can they stay healthy?

Very excited to see the WR battle in camp and pre-season. There's a chance this could be the best position group on the team and perhaps the best group in the history of the Saints.

PFF ranks Willie Gay as the 31st best LB in the league for 2024. Demario Davis is #3, of course. We're the only team in the league with two in the top 32.

Our whole staff at this point are as follows ...

WLB	20	Werner, Pete 21/2	45	Sewell, Nephi PUP	52	Jackson, D'Marco 22/5	44	Stalbird, Isaiah CF24
MLB	56	DAVIS, DEMARIO U/NYJ	53	Ford, Jaylan 24/5	58	Orji, Anfernee CF23
SLB	6	Gay, Willie U/KC	47	Hudson, Khaleke U/Was	59	Rice, Monty W/Ten

I know the team is really high on both Orji and the 5th round selection, Jaylon Ford.

AsylumGuido · 07-22-2024, 03:16 PM

For anyone concerned about Dennis Allen doing the same things over and over ...

How suddenly 'cool' Saints coach Dennis Allen is hoping to change himself – and the Saints

When training camp begins Wednesday in Irvine, California, Allen will look to build upon the camaraderie that he has spent so much of the last few months establishing with players. In a season that’s setting up to be crucial for his job security, Allen told the Times-Picayune he determined the Saints needed “significant change.” That change was headlined by a new offensive staff, but the full extent of Allen’s vision went deeper.

If the Saints needed to change, Allen needed to change with them. The messages players heard for years from the no-nonsense, defensive-minded teacher had to be presented differently.

No matter how much it takes them by surprise.

“You could tell guys in the room, they’re like, 'DA is cool now,' ” safety Tyrann Mathieu said.

...

Then this year, Allen scrapped most of his offensive staff. Out went Pete Carmichael and in came Klint Kubiak.

“Continuity is important,” Allen said. “But continuity is only important if you’re continuing to get the results you’re looking for.

“To have continuity and not have the results is insanity.”

Much more here ...

Crusader likes this.

turbo_dog · 07-23-2024, 07:41 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

PFF ranks Willie Gay as the 31st best LB in the league for 2024. Demario Davis is #3, of course. We're the only team in the league with two in the top 32.

Our whole staff at this point are as follows ...

WLB 20 Werner, Pete 21/2 45 Sewell, Nephi PUP 52 Jackson, D'Marco 22/5 44 Stalbird, Isaiah CF24
MLB 56 DAVIS, DEMARIO U/NYJ 53 Ford, Jaylan 24/5 58 Orji, Anfernee CF23
SLB 6 Gay, Willie U/KC 47 Hudson, Khaleke U/Was 59 Rice, Monty W/Ten

I know the team is really high on both Orji and the 5th round selection, Jaylon Ford.

Thank you for giving me all the players on the current roster in LB spots. I will say after looking for more info on the subject, there is a variety of opinions. One such is this article, which describes Gay as a "new Zach Baun". That doesn't sound entirely promising to me. I hope, as I do each year, that one of these underrated prospects becomes a bottle rocket. I just have some doubts.

turbo_dog · 07-23-2024, 07:42 PM

https://www.si.com/nfl/saints/news/s...inebacker-spot

mapcow · 07-23-2024, 10:00 AM

https://www.bing.com/videos/rivervie...E41&ajaxhist=0

Training Camp Starts!!!

..Let The Sunshine....

Rugby Saint II · 07-23-2024, 04:57 PM

Here we go boys!

AsylumGuido · 07-23-2024, 05:51 PM

AsylumGuido · 07-23-2024, 05:52 PM

07-20-2024, 05:53 PM	#1
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,783	Re: The 2024 Sunshine Oasis: Positive Saints Talk Only Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I know. It's crazy. Right? Well, that didn't take long..... No, unfortunately it didn't. I made a specific request to Sinner to stay out of this thread. He has honored that request and I am very appreciative that he has done so. My request did not specifically extend to the Cow. I am hoping that he will keep the tone down. So, until now I've left it alone. And for now I suggest that everyone else do the same. If it gets out of hand, I'll address it. So, for now folks let's just keep the positive vibes going. Rookies have already reported. Everyone will be in on Tuesday. Let's see how quickly things can come together so that the Saints in 2024 can make an impact by doing 2 things: 1. Winning the first 3 division games in the first 6 weeks. 2. Finding a way to upset Dallas or Philly. That would at minimum have us 4-2 after 6 weeks and 3-0 in the division. That's a setup for making some noise this season. SFIAH Crusader, AsylumGuido and Rugby Saint II like this.
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07-22-2024, 01:33 PM	#2
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,705	Re: The 2024 Sunshine Oasis: Positive Saints Talk Only Curious to see how the run game looks under Kubiak. I was a big fan when his dad was in Denver and how much he got out of the RB position, even from players who were not thought of as potentially great. Other than Davis and Werner, do we have any linebackers? Willie Gay is a question mark still. Seriously, do we have any others? OL - who plays where, and can they stay healthy? Very excited to see the WR battle in camp and pre-season. There's a chance this could be the best position group on the team and perhaps the best group in the history of the Saints. Crusader likes this.

07-22-2024, 03:16 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,666	Re: The 2024 Sunshine Oasis: Positive Saints Talk Only For anyone concerned about Dennis Allen doing the same things over and over ... How suddenly 'cool' Saints coach Dennis Allen is hoping to change himself – and the Saints Twitter When training camp begins Wednesday in Irvine, California, Allen will look to build upon the camaraderie that he has spent so much of the last few months establishing with players. In a season that’s setting up to be crucial for his job security, Allen told the Times-Picayune he determined the Saints needed “significant change.” That change was headlined by a new offensive staff, but the full extent of Allen’s vision went deeper. If the Saints needed to change, Allen needed to change with them. The messages players heard for years from the no-nonsense, defensive-minded teacher had to be presented differently. No matter how much it takes them by surprise. “You could tell guys in the room, they’re like, 'DA is cool now,' ” safety Tyrann Mathieu said. ... Then this year, Allen scrapped most of his offensive staff. Out went Pete Carmichael and in came Klint Kubiak. “Continuity is important,” Allen said. “But continuity is only important if you’re continuing to get the results you’re looking for. “To have continuity and not have the results is insanity.” Much more here ... Crusader likes this.
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