The 2024 Sunshine Oasis: Positive Saints Talk Only

turbo_dog · 07-22-2024, 01:33 PM

Curious to see how the run game looks under Kubiak. I was a big fan when his dad was in Denver and how much he got out of the RB position, even from players who were not thought of as potentially great.

Other than Davis and Werner, do we have any linebackers? Willie Gay is a question mark still. Seriously, do we have any others?

OL - who plays where, and can they stay healthy?

Very excited to see the WR battle in camp and pre-season. There's a chance this could be the best position group on the team and perhaps the best group in the history of the Saints.

AsylumGuido · 07-22-2024, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by turbo_dog

Curious to see how the run game looks under Kubiak. I was a big fan when his dad was in Denver and how much he got out of the RB position, even from players who were not thought of as potentially great.

Other than Davis and Werner, do we have any linebackers? Willie Gay is a question mark still. Seriously, do we have any others?

OL - who plays where, and can they stay healthy?

Very excited to see the WR battle in camp and pre-season. There's a chance this could be the best position group on the team and perhaps the best group in the history of the Saints.

PFF ranks Willie Gay as the 31st best LB in the league for 2024. Demario Davis is #3, of course. We're the only team in the league with two in the top 32.

Our whole staff at this point are as follows ...

WLB	20	Werner, Pete 21/2	45	Sewell, Nephi PUP	52	Jackson, D'Marco 22/5	44	Stalbird, Isaiah CF24
MLB	56	DAVIS, DEMARIO U/NYJ	53	Ford, Jaylan 24/5	58	Orji, Anfernee CF23
SLB	6	Gay, Willie U/KC	47	Hudson, Khaleke U/Was	59	Rice, Monty W/Ten

I know the team is really high on both Orji and the 5th round selection, Jaylon Ford.

AsylumGuido · 07-22-2024, 03:16 PM

For anyone concerned about Dennis Allen doing the same things over and over ...

How suddenly 'cool' Saints coach Dennis Allen is hoping to change himself – and the Saints

When training camp begins Wednesday in Irvine, California, Allen will look to build upon the camaraderie that he has spent so much of the last few months establishing with players. In a season that’s setting up to be crucial for his job security, Allen told the Times-Picayune he determined the Saints needed “significant change.” That change was headlined by a new offensive staff, but the full extent of Allen’s vision went deeper.

If the Saints needed to change, Allen needed to change with them. The messages players heard for years from the no-nonsense, defensive-minded teacher had to be presented differently.

No matter how much it takes them by surprise.

“You could tell guys in the room, they’re like, 'DA is cool now,' ” safety Tyrann Mathieu said.

...

Then this year, Allen scrapped most of his offensive staff. Out went Pete Carmichael and in came Klint Kubiak.

“Continuity is important,” Allen said. “But continuity is only important if you’re continuing to get the results you’re looking for.

“To have continuity and not have the results is insanity.”

Much more here ...

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turbo_dog · 07-23-2024, 07:41 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

PFF ranks Willie Gay as the 31st best LB in the league for 2024. Demario Davis is #3, of course. We're the only team in the league with two in the top 32.

Our whole staff at this point are as follows ...

WLB 20 Werner, Pete 21/2 45 Sewell, Nephi PUP 52 Jackson, D'Marco 22/5 44 Stalbird, Isaiah CF24
MLB 56 DAVIS, DEMARIO U/NYJ 53 Ford, Jaylan 24/5 58 Orji, Anfernee CF23
SLB 6 Gay, Willie U/KC 47 Hudson, Khaleke U/Was 59 Rice, Monty W/Ten

I know the team is really high on both Orji and the 5th round selection, Jaylon Ford.

Thank you for giving me all the players on the current roster in LB spots. I will say after looking for more info on the subject, there is a variety of opinions. One such is this article, which describes Gay as a "new Zach Baun". That doesn't sound entirely promising to me. I hope, as I do each year, that one of these underrated prospects becomes a bottle rocket. I just have some doubts.

turbo_dog · 07-23-2024, 07:42 PM

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07-22-2024, 01:33 PM	#1
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,707	Re: The 2024 Sunshine Oasis: Positive Saints Talk Only Curious to see how the run game looks under Kubiak. I was a big fan when his dad was in Denver and how much he got out of the RB position, even from players who were not thought of as potentially great. Other than Davis and Werner, do we have any linebackers? Willie Gay is a question mark still. Seriously, do we have any others? OL - who plays where, and can they stay healthy? Very excited to see the WR battle in camp and pre-season. There's a chance this could be the best position group on the team and perhaps the best group in the history of the Saints. Crusader likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,674	Re: The 2024 Sunshine Oasis: Positive Saints Talk Only For anyone concerned about Dennis Allen doing the same things over and over ... How suddenly 'cool' Saints coach Dennis Allen is hoping to change himself – and the Saints Twitter When training camp begins Wednesday in Irvine, California, Allen will look to build upon the camaraderie that he has spent so much of the last few months establishing with players. In a season that’s setting up to be crucial for his job security, Allen told the Times-Picayune he determined the Saints needed “significant change.” That change was headlined by a new offensive staff, but the full extent of Allen’s vision went deeper. If the Saints needed to change, Allen needed to change with them. The messages players heard for years from the no-nonsense, defensive-minded teacher had to be presented differently. No matter how much it takes them by surprise. “You could tell guys in the room, they’re like, 'DA is cool now,' ” safety Tyrann Mathieu said. ... Then this year, Allen scrapped most of his offensive staff. Out went Pete Carmichael and in came Klint Kubiak. “Continuity is important,” Allen said. “But continuity is only important if you’re continuing to get the results you’re looking for. “To have continuity and not have the results is insanity.” Much more here ... Crusader likes this.
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