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mapcow 08-01-2024 03:59 PM

Re: ALVIN KAMARA posts cryptic messages on social media amid contract saga
 
More to my point on violent crime and NFL... The NFl can either suspend a player for a year, or even ban that player completely if caught gambling and the manner of gambling. BUT will promote a player that commits a criminal violent crime such as assault and battery.... Thats the ticket... :beatnik:

The new policy, which was agreed to by both the NFL and the players union, now calls for a one-year suspension for any player who bets on an NFL game and two years if the player bets on his own team’s game. If the league finds that a player fixed a game, they will be banned from the NFL for life.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/09/29/nf...L%20for%20life.

but an active nfl player commits and prosecuted for assault and battery where an innocent victim may have been seriously injured, or worse...said player can still represent the NFL as a player..... me thinks this make no sense. :beatnik: Moreso for each individual team.

BakoSaint 08-17-2024 01:17 PM

Re: ALVIN KAMARA posts cryptic messages on social media amid contract saga
 
Geno Smith's agent taking a page from Alvin Kamara's agent. 'I've declined, give me a raise and guarantees!'

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profoo...eal-in-seattle

BakoSaint 09-15-2024 10:24 AM

Re: ALVIN KAMARA posts cryptic messages on social media amid contract saga
 
I understood why the 49ers were likely forced to extend CMC. Unlike Kamara he seemed to be at the top of his game because everything around him was perfect. But like Kamara he was an older running back in a league where both data and until this offseason conventional wisdom said you dont invest big in an older running back. This trend seemed to be cemented 2 years ago when the Cowboys let Elliott walk, the Vikings let Cook walk, and both had to settle for low paid 1 year deals. But then in 2023 CMC had an MVP caliber season and suddenly older RB's were back in fashion and Kamara tried to get an extension. Many old or injured RB's switched teams and got decent money. Like I said, I understood why the 49ers were under a lot of pressure to extend CMC, and maybe had to do it to avoid a full scale revolt during their Super Bowl window since they were in a position to win now, but long term, and maybe short term, I thought it would likely turn out to be a bad contract.

So, although Kamara played well Week 1 against weak opposition, I think it could change things if the figurehead of the pay old RB's movement CMC deteriorates and is effectively replaced by a young mid round draft pick. We could go back to a market where numerous middle aged RB's are available on cheap 1 year deals.

I think it is smart to be contrarian with some short term fads in the NFL that go against long term data. I am glad we did not pay Kamara at what might be the peak for older RB's in our era. Likewise I am glad we did not do any big extension with Taysom Hill, who may fall under a similar category as an older player who is known more for his physical running style and tackle breaking that anything else. It's nothing personal its just that 30-somethings running the football for the big money is not the future of where the NFL game is headed.

shawnkytonk 09-15-2024 02:11 PM

Re: ALVIN KAMARA posts cryptic messages on social media amid contract saga
 
Read so many BS takes this offseason that he had lost a step. Once again it is easy to see Carmichael was the problem.

leilung 09-15-2024 02:25 PM

Re: ALVIN KAMARA posts cryptic messages on social media amid contract saga
 
Pay da man!

mapcow 09-16-2024 04:01 PM

Re: ALVIN KAMARA posts cryptic messages on social media amid contract saga
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by leilung (Post 1001120)
Pay da man!

nah.... the thug is making more than enough money. too bad he turned to thuggery. :beatnik:

BakoSaint 09-16-2024 05:36 PM

Re: ALVIN KAMARA posts cryptic messages on social media amid contract saga
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shawnkytonk (Post 1001100)
Read so many BS takes this offseason that he had lost a step. Once again it is easy to see Carmichael was the problem.

I think its more complicated. It appeared that Kamara had lost a step last year. It appears he hasn't so far this year. But both of those things, not just one, are appearances. There were many runs yesterday where Kamara ran in a straight line and was not touched for a big gain. If we sustain this success there are going to be a lot of people to pay. We won't be able to pay them all. We can't write a blank check to an aging RB just because we have a system in place that is very favorable to our RB. Don't get me wrong, Kamara is a good fit for our system, versatility is highly valuable in our new system. But we also saw the 49ers recently make CMC the highest paid RB in history and then lose him to IR, and now they are finding the backup can rush for 100 yards too. At some point if Kamara wants CMC money it may not make sense. Running backs can be had in free agency and I am not convinced that had our offense couldnt work with a different competent RB if we are opening up giant holes to run through.

AsylumGuido 09-16-2024 05:52 PM

Re: ALVIN KAMARA posts cryptic messages on social media amid contract saga
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 1001378)
I think its more complicated. It appeared that Kamara had lost a step last year. It appears he hasn't so far this year. But both of those things, not just one, are appearances. There were many runs yesterday where Kamara ran in a straight line and was not touched for a big gain. If we sustain this success there are going to be a lot of people to pay. We won't be able to pay them all. We can't write a blank check to an aging RB just because we have a system in place that is very favorable to our RB. Don't get me wrong, Kamara is a good fit for our system, versatility is highly valuable in our new system. But we also saw the 49ers recently make CMC the highest paid RB in history and then lose him to IR, and now they are finding the backup can rush for 100 yards too. At some point if Kamara wants CMC money it may not make sense. Running backs can be had in free agency and I am not convinced that had our offense couldnt work with a different competent RB if we are opening up giant holes to run through.

Of course you do. :rolleyes:

Rugby Saint II 09-17-2024 03:33 PM

Re: ALVIN KAMARA posts cryptic messages on social media amid contract saga
 
The man is the face of the franchise right now. Pay The Man!

AsylumGuido 09-17-2024 03:38 PM

Re: ALVIN KAMARA posts cryptic messages on social media amid contract saga
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 1001452)
The man is the face of the franchise right now. Pay The Man!

They will. He said he's halfway through his career with the Saints.


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