ALVIN KAMARA posts cryptic messages on social media amid contract saga
 

Around this time of year, DEUCE would be quietly preparing to leave his soul on the field for us.

Yeah, I’m a nostalgic geezer…

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A K needs more money for less productivity. :beatnik:

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It’s in the works. We have all the right people in the building. Tweets will follow.

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Kamara is already overpaid for his production, and a new contract would require a major pay cut to about 10% below Mixon's deal based on age and production.

If Kamara gets a raise, we know who wears the pants in Metairie.

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....and over glamorized. Cut Bait! :beatnik:

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I don't suspect AK is trying to get a raise. I believe he may have been the only veteran on the roster not to have his contract reworked in the annual create cap space event, and therefore it will make it easy to release him after the 2024 season. If his contract gets reworked, the Saints will be forced to carry him in 2025.

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His production can still be great if he's used correctly. He's more than a third down back but he's not a bell cow type guy. Still a legit NFL weapon.

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yeah... let's increase the pay of a man that thinks it is okay to attack and beat on another man. the audacity of AK is astounding. :beatnik:

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He was totally misused the last two years. Hell, pretty much everyone one was. The biggest off-season addition was the subtraction of Pete Carmichael.

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This year he’s starting the season with Twitter and hullabaloo. Other teams are dialing in their running game right about now.

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misused :rofl: glorified thug is more likely :beatnik:

Time to find a true blue athlete that can run the ball.... Mcaffery comes to mind. go get him :beatnik:

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All our receivers, running backs, and tight ends were misused on orders from the top not from the OC. They were all used to cover for Trevor Penning because he couldn't block anyone, and to give the illusion that he was 'improving' as more and more of our offense was redirected to everyone covering for him. The thing is, Penning is still projected to start, so Kamara will still be misused either to do Penning's blocking for him, or be the 2 yard check down when another player like Shaheed, Hill, or Johnson fails to block Penning's assigned DE.

I don't care a lot about Kamara's character, though any player with a past suspension for a temper issue is always a risk to get a longer suspension for a second offense, so its just like another kind of injury risk. But the problem with saying Kamara was misused is that we have two years of not knowing if he could have been effective or not if used correctly. There are signs he lost a step, and many runners do at his age, and he has not flashed as much on plays where he had opportunities. So even if its true he was misused it does not prove that nothing else has changed. But the other problem is that he will likely still be misused because we are still trying to start Penning, we still probably have a shoddy oline, we probably have worse blocking receivers than ever, and we still have a QB who loves to check down.

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Trevor Penning only started SIX games over the past two seasons. He wasn't even out there for other offensive players to supposedly be covering for him. You are so full of crap. :rolleyes: Most of his snaps were on special teams.

Haters gonna hate.

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no hate... only hate i see is coming from you claiming haters gonna hate. such a cliché and just not true. sorta like crying racist. but back to the real hater, and he actually was brought up on assault charges.... the thug, Alvin Kamara, gotta go! :beatnik:

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Bottom line… Is AK ready to ball for us right now?

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My argument is two fold. Pete Carmichael is your excuse for Alvin Kamara having two down years. But those two down years are really the first half of 2023. And that is really Penning. In 2022 Carmichael had Andy Dalton and a rookie receiver to run the offense, and all things considered Carmichael got more out of Dalton than any coach in years had. You can't really fault Carmichael much on 2022 given what he had to work with. Then in 2023 expectations were raised because Loomis broke the bank to get Derek Carr who was supposed to be a major upgrade. Carmichael is seen as a failure because Carr did not prove a major upgrade in 2023, especially in the first half. Carr's faults aside, while you put this on Carmichael, I put it more on Penning. Forcing Penning to start blew the 2023 offense more than anything else I think. The six games he had to start, everyone else on the offense had to relearn their positions as Pennings blocking helpers first and everything else second. Carr got beat up badly while Penning was starting and never got healthy all year. When Carr got beat up he rushed throws and receivers got beat up. When Carr had nowhere else to go, he developed a habit of 2 yard checkdowns to the running backs that would be a great offense if 5 yards was a 1st down. Sure, after 6 games Penning went to the bench where he belonged and was not even used as a second string on oline because he didn't have the talent or athleticism to play the position. But all the consequences of Penning lasted beyond 6 games. Players were having to relearn their positions mid season after playing assistant left tackle for the first 6 games. Route trees were clouded by blocking assignments. Derek Carr was nursing his injuries from Pennings incompetance. Receivers were nursing their injuries from Carr's PTSD. Carr was struggling to get over bad habits developed behind Penning. Kamara was accustomed to those 2 yard checkdowns. Penning broke the entire offense, not Carmichael.

The problem I see is that in 2024 we got rid of Carmichael but are currently slating Penning to start, taking the massive leap from 3rd string where he finished last year to 1st string starting right tackle this year. I am not sure it will matter who the OC is. This time Penning will not protect Carr's blind side, but that just means Carr will be watching Penning struggle and going into panic mode even sooner. And Kamara will be looking for those check downs. And the receiving core will be having to help Penning instead of running their routes.

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Salient points.

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Your argument is nothing more than more hate.

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dude, you are stuck in hate mode. :beatnik:

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If the question is who is more responsible for our offensive struggles in 2023, my answer is Trevor Penning, and your answer is Pete Carmichael, don't you 'hate' Pete Carmichael as much as I 'hate' Trevor Penning?

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I was stoked when we signed Penning. He was a huge dude with a rumored mean streak. Just a big nasty. I was excited.

His inability to grasp the NFL level of football was a huge letdown for me. Just an absolute shame.

I still hope the guy can turn it back on and play at a high level, even at RT. Or anywhere on the line for that matter. But so far he’s been a huge bust.

I hope he can put it together this year.

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Some of us hate losing. We hate $ucking. And some don’t. At least we’re all honest about it.

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Dude hosting the blog presented the question, "what does AK have to use for leverage?" .... I'd be remiss if I did not reply... "his fist". Cut Bait.

:beatnik:

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That's a dishonest statement.

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Okay. to be completely honest, I HATE LOSING. Is it dishonest to assume that many other Fans hate losing too?

Let’s start there…

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No. I don't hate Carmichael at all. I simply know that he had proven he was not capable of designing and calling successful plays. It was time for him to be replaced. As for Penning, he has yet to be given a real chance with legitimate coaching and development. Penning was but one of 53 roster members. Carmichael was the only offensive coordinator on the team. Any logical thinking adult would know which individual had more impact on the offensive performance.

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sure you do.... haters gonna hate. after all, i said the same of the prima donna Thomas, and i am saying the same for the thug AK .... time for them to go as they were not capable of positive performance on offense :beatnik:

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It’s just like, I don’t “hate” Dennis Allen and Derek Carr at all. They are just occupying two KEY POSITIONS in a completely unspectacular and lackluster manner. They just AINT “IT”, and everybody knows it. I “hate” that I have to argue against putting lipstick on this pig for yet another season.

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You know that it's dishonest to assume that anyone here enjoys losing. No one here is happy with below average Saints teams. That said, most of us know that going to a Saints fan site crying every day about the team's poor quality over the last few years is futile. Most of us want to have a discussion about what we would do differently if we managed this team and what to look forward to as the season approaches.

If you're really being honest, you'd address the fact that you and a couple of other posters are here to troll and ruin this site.

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See, I am here to talk about my SAINTS.
You’re here (trolling my thread) to talk about ME.

Do you see the difference?

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uh... no. quite the opposite. living in reality and truth is the best disinfectant/sunshine to alleviate the doldrums and depression of losing. :beatnik:

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I give them their sunshiny kumbaya oasis, and it’s all so yawn-worthy, that they cannot resist coming onto my thread and taking personal attacks.

And the season hasn’t even STARTED yet!

Saints RB Alvin Kamara invokes an NFL legend to explain why he reported to training camp
 

New Orleans Saints running back Alvin Kamara isn't among the more vocal members of the team, and the eighth-year pro didn't have to speak a word to explain why he reported to training camp in the middle of a contract dispute.

The Times-Picayune confirmed Tuesday that Kamara has reported to training camp, which begins Wednesday in Inglewood, California, and the Tennessee product made a not-so-subtle post on social media to explain why he arrived for training camp despite not yet having a new contract agreement.

On his Instagram account, Kamara shared a photo of himself and legendary running back Marshawn Lynch, who famously said,

Read the rest
https://www.nola.com/sports/saints/a...source=twitter

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GAAAAAHHHH… Don’t remind me of Marshawn Lynch…

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I turn away any time that highlight airs. We should've never lost that game.

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I have never watched it again myself.

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Yup! Personally, I hate losing. That's why I'd hate for the team to ever blow things up. I hope we never see another top ten draft pick because that means we had one of the ten worst records in the league. I'd rather have five wins than three wins. I'd rather have seven wins than five wins. I'd much rather have nine wins than seven wins. Eleven wins would be way better than nine.

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“The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The masochist sees five wins as a good season.” ~ LOSEston Churchill