Re: Saints RB Alvin Kamara invokes an NFL legend to explain why he reported to training camp
 

Re: Saints RB Alvin Kamara invokes an NFL legend to explain why he reported to training camp
 

Alvin Kamara is a highly paid Twitter.

Re: ALVIN KAMARA posts cryptic messages on social media amid contract saga
 

I was messaged to not voice my opinion there as well....

Re: ALVIN KAMARA posts cryptic messages on social media amid contract saga
 

Nope! :beatnik:

Re: Saints RB Alvin Kamara invokes an NFL legend to explain why he reported to training camp
 

...and a thug. :beatnik:

Re: ALVIN KAMARA posts cryptic messages on social media amid contract saga
 

AK was suspended last year right? Shouldn't he be the one that bends a little?

Re: ALVIN KAMARA posts cryptic messages on social media amid contract saga
 

bend or resign.... :beatnik:

Re: Saints RB Alvin Kamara invokes an NFL legend to explain why he reported to training camp
 

Alvin Kamara Says He Wants To Retire With The New Orleans Saints
 

Alvin Kamara Says He Wants To Retire With The New Orleans Saints

Ross Jackson | 34 Minutes Ago

As the first day of New Orleans Saints training camp kicked off, all eyes were on running back Alvin Kamara. He and the team have had ongoing contract negotiations. While it does not sound like that conversations have ever turned contentious, it did lead to Kamara making a statement by departing early from the final day of mandatory minicamp. But Kamara made his intentions clear in his first trianing camp media availability following the first day of trianing camp.

"I want to be a Saint," New Orleans Saints running back Alvin Kamara said in his post-practice presser. "I want to retire here."

He proved that Wednesday by not only reporting to training camp practices but full participating in everything from individual to team drills. “If I’m here,” he said. “I’m playing.”

Kamara also laid out that his desire is less about his current contract, which includes at $10.2 million base salary, and more about the future. The seventh-year running back has no guaranteed salary in 2025 as his deal currently stands. Kamara wants to finish his career as a Saint, and the Saints will have to decide if that is what they want on their end.

Football is fun. The relationships forged between players, teams and fans are meaningful. But the league is also a business. All of these things can be true. Which is something Kamara is very comfortable with. He said that he holds no hostility toward the team, coaches and certainly not his teammates. He gets that business is business.

He even mentioned that his production in recent years, which has been below his own standard, could be leveraged against him in such negotiations. An observation like that coming from the very player that is searching for future commitment gives an undeniably valuable glimpse into the realistic outlook he has.

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Re: Alvin Kamara Says He Wants To Retire With The New Orleans Saints
 

If I could collect that paycheck for doing nearly nothing, and tweeting… sweet deal!

Re: Saints RB Alvin Kamara invokes an NFL legend to explain why he reported to training camp
 

Gonna get paid big to underperform. Welcome to Saints Status Quo.

Re: Alvin Kamara Says He Wants To Retire With The New Orleans Saints
 

Re: Alvin Kamara Says He Wants To Retire With The New Orleans Saints
 

We already knew. He’s been saying that. Give him a two year extension and call it a night.

Re: Alvin Kamara Says He Wants To Retire With The New Orleans Saints
 

That'll likely be just what happens soon. But, not everyone knew. Some people out there were thinking it's all about the money and he'd be willing to go elsewhere.

Re: Alvin Kamara Says He Wants To Retire With The New Orleans Saints
 

If anybody could f*ck up a deal, and make a player like AK irrelevant, it’s our front office. Watch…

Re: Alvin Kamara Says He Wants To Retire With The New Orleans Saints
 

Hopefully they figure it out. RB room a little thinner than I’d like.

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The problem is that he already has a contract and that is better than he would get on the open market / pays more than his market value and he wants a raise and new guarantees far above his market value. This is false loyalty. This is like if you are struggling to pay bills and your wife says she wants to be with you forever and all its going to take is a 10 carat diamond and a new Ferrari. I am fine with Kamara retiring a Saint but he is not on a paupers rookie contract he is on a bloated deal signed during his prime and his performance does not merit a raise or additional guarantees, if anything it merits him take a pay cut to about $8 million a year to help the team win and be honest about his age and declining skills.

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“I ain't stupid. I ain't going to give no money up. I'm trying to get some money,"

Kamara said after the Saints' first practice of training camp on Wednesday.

AK QUOTE OF THE DAY…
 

“I ain't stupid. I ain't going to give no money up. I'm trying to get some money,"

Call me a grouchy geezer, but with a net worth of around $10 million, that doesn’t sound like someone whose priority is to ball for us right now.

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I posted an article on my site to put it on the record that I do think Loomis is having a better offseason this year, but that giving in to Kamara will ruin it, blow the Saints salary cap, and mean $50 million a year for Carr and .500 forever.

https://www.firemickeyloomis.com/has...ended-his-ways

Re: Alvin Kamara Says He Wants To Retire With The New Orleans Saints
 

Of course AK wants to retire as a Saint, he is a very smart guy and understands there is not a lot of opportunity for seasoned RB's on the open market.

Re: Saints RB Alvin Kamara invokes an NFL legend to explain why he reported to training camp
 

He's getting paid per his NFL value. He's not getting 25 mil next year or any other year. No RB is. Just got to find a deal everybody is happy with.

Re: Saints RB Alvin Kamara invokes an NFL legend to explain why he reported to training camp
 

Anybody wanna bet he AINT gonna be anywhere near “BEAST-MODE” this year? He’s counting his money. The game changed for him. Watch.

Re: Saints RB Alvin Kamara invokes an NFL legend to explain why he reported to training camp
 

This is going to be a long pre-season....

Re: Saints RB Alvin Kamara invokes an NFL legend to explain why he reported to training camp
 

anything less than 25 million is still too much! over the top fantastic bank for a thug. cut bait :beatnik:

Re: Saints RB Alvin Kamara invokes an NFL legend to explain why he reported to training camp
 

He said he's fine to play out his current deal. He's not looking for more, he said. He just wants to be extended.

Re: Alvin Kamara Says He Wants To Retire With The New Orleans Saints
 

You are so full of crap ... as usual. He didn't say any of those things. You just make crap up. :rolleyes:

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Alvin Kamara on not holding out from Saints training camp amid contract talks: 'I ain't stupid'

Published: Jul 24, 2024 at 03:02 PM

Kevin Patra

New Orleans Saints running back Alvin Kamara left June's mandatory minicamp early while in a contract dispute but reported for training camp this week.

On Wednesday, Kamara did his best Marshawn Lynch impression, admitting he arrived to avoid getting fined $50,000 per day.

"I ain't stupid. I ain't gonna give the money up," Kamara said. "I'm trying to get some money, right? I was gonna be here. It's no one that has a jersey on, I wouldn't even blame any coaches [with] what's going on with contract issues right now. This happens all across the league. It's happened here. It's happened everywhere. People trying to get contracts, trying to get paid. I'll be a fool to spite my teammates because of a dispute I'm having with upstairs. I wouldn't even call it a dispute. We're just having conversations about compensation. … I'm not that guy. I'm for the team. So I'm here, I'm doing what I've got to do. I'm working."

Karmara admitted his early departure from minicamp last month came after he got no traction on his contract concerns.

"Trying to get a contract done, and it just ain't been nothing happening," he said. "Ain't been no real conversations or, I would say, worthy conversations of contract. So that last day was just me saying… I think there was a misconception about 'Oh well, Alvin didn't say anything about a contract,' which I never do really. It's just you know it's time. We've been talking about it a little bit. It hasn't been anything really meaningful. It's been kinda one side where they at, and I'm kinda like, 'Eh, nah.' So I went to the crib."

Turning 29 on Thursday, Kamara is set to earn $10.2 million in base salary this season, with just $1 million guaranteed. His 2025 base salary of $22.4 million with no guaranteed dollars is an inflated figure he's unlikely ever to see.

Kamara reiterated that his goal is to play his entire career in New Orleans.

"I've said it before: I want to be a Saint," he added. "You know what I'm saying? I want to retire here. If I gotta play football somewhere else, I'll probably be somewhere with my feet kicked up in Africa somewhere, or something like that."

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Re: Saints RB Alvin Kamara invokes an NFL legend to explain why he reported to training camp
 

Re: Alvin Kamara Says He Wants To Retire With The New Orleans Saints
 

If you were overpaid by an comparison to your peers, lets say you were a teacher who made six figures, and your employer was in a budget crisis facing annual restructures to pay the bills, lets say they were having to shut down the art and music programs, and your performance was down lets say the previous year you had been suspended for slapping a student and your classes test scores were down 30% over the last two years, would you skip work and demand a new salary adjustment and to be 'paid.'

Kamara is saying lots. By holding out to any degree he is saying there is something wrong with his salary. By saying he wants to be 'paid' he is saying whats wrong is its not enough. When anyone says he just wants 'guarantees' the reality is that his salary this season is $12 million, which is well above market, and that becomes guaranteed as a veteran if he is on the roster week one. He probably would be lucky to get $12 million in total guarantees over multiple years on the open market. And he only needs to worry about not getting that $12 million if he gets beat out by Miller or Williams in training camp and does not make the team at all. If his worry is about 2025 not having guarantees, why should we guarantee money in 2025 to an aging RB who is worried about making the team in 2024?

The fact is it says a let that a guy who is generously overpaid and hasnt been cut is clearly implying he wants more money. A reasonable contract for Kamara would be something like 2 years $19 million with $12 million guaranteed (about $1 million less than Mixon) or 3 years $24 million with $15 million guaranteed and a salary of $9 million with little or no guarantee in year 3. But considering Kamara's insane contract today with $12 million in 2024 and $25 million in 2025 that would be a big pay cut. I know that nobody is going to pay Kamara $25 million for a year and that is not real, but for appearance purposes when a player wipes out that year they usually like to make it look like a raise by getting more money in the long run win guarantees. The thing is, Kamara's estimated value from overthecap in 2023 was under $6 million. Kamara's entire career from 2025 until retirement is likely not worth close to $25 million even if he plays until 2028 or something. There is no way to cut that $25 million to a realistic value of $7-9 million where he can save face. He is an aging RB who had declined and will likely decline more.

Re: Alvin Kamara Says He Wants To Retire With The New Orleans Saints
 

If you actually took the time to read what he said you wouldn't look so foolish. He said nothing about his salary. He actually said he's fine playing out his current deal. He just wants to retire as a Saint and he wants to continue playing past his current contract which effectively ends after 2025. He specifically says he feels he could play another "four or five years". He wants that to be with the Saints. If not he said he'll retire and just move to Africa. Yes he wants more money. Not more than he is already slated to make under his current contract, but whatever he would get for his additional years.

Re: Alvin Kamara Says He Wants To Retire With The New Orleans Saints
 

Alvin Kamara Contract Thread
 

Putting what I can into a single thread.

Re: Saints RB Alvin Kamara invokes an NFL legend to explain why he reported to training camp
 

AK said, “I ain't stupid. I ain't going to give no money up. I'm trying to get some money,"

Call me a grouchy geezer, but that doesn’t sound like someone whose priority is to ball for us right now.

This Fanboy culture that Quido perpetuates and promotes, is signaling the organization to move more and more into this “all hype, no BEASTMODE” product placement, which ruins the sport, way more than we naysayers are ruining this forum.

Re: AK QUOTE OF THE DAY…
 

Here is the rest of his quote. Very next sentence:

And his QB's quote probably sums up the rest of teams' feelings:

Re: AK QUOTE OF THE DAY…
 

His words need to translate into actions on the field this year. That remains to be seen.

His QB’s words don’t translate to anything we can rely on on the field. That has been proven time and time again. He’s a dud.

Re: AK QUOTE OF THE DAY…
 

What was the exact quote the sinner guy posted? I posted the entire text of Kamara's reply earlier today with the part you included, sf76, in the Kamara thread and there was nothing that I would judge as inflammatory. :confused: I do, however, see how it could be taken out of context if cherry-picked. :D

Re: AK QUOTE OF THE DAY…
 

Football is a team sport let's get a solid oline and some solid playcalling and see what happens

Re: AK QUOTE OF THE DAY…
 

Especially this! We haven't had decent play design or playcalling since Payton left.