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Sinner 07-26-2024 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 998145)
Bro, you're starting to sound like someone jealous of celebrity financial independence and I don't think that's who you are.

If wanting to see multi millionaires EARN their money ON THE FIELD, and being disappointed when they don’t, makes me “jealous”, That’s fine. I work hard for mine.

Sinner 07-26-2024 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 998154)
Alvin Kamara is one of the last players we should be discussing in a negative light. All discussions should center around offensive line and QB. That’s our weak points. That’s where we need to improve to win.

Yeah I’d much rather be discussing him looking more like Marshawn Lynch on the field, than the importance of him retiring with a Saints Jersey on and an unlimited retirement plan for his family. I’d like to see him BALL this year, more than tweet.

Our QB is a DUD, and our O-line is everybody’s go to excuse, and we need a HEAD COACH.

AsylumGuido 07-26-2024 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 998154)
Alvin Kamara is one of the last players we should be discussing in a negative light. All discussions should center around offensive line and QB. That’s our weak points. That’s where we need to improve to win.


With some people a negative light is the only thing they are capable of seeing.

Sinner 07-26-2024 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 998158)
With some people a negative light is the only thing they are capable of seeing.

Stay on topic Rosie. Focus.

saintsfan1976 07-26-2024 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 998156)
Yeah I’d much rather be discussing him looking more like Marshawn Lynch on the field, than the importance of him retiring with a Saints Jersey on and an unlimited retirement plan for his family. I’d like to see him BALL this year, more than tweet.

Our QB is a DUD, and our O-line is everybody’s go to excuse, and we need a HEAD COACH.

Lynch 13 years 12,627 yds from scrimmage. 4.6 yds per touch

Kamara 7 years 10,048 yds from scrimmage. 5.5 yds per touch

I hope Kamara stays Kamara. A baller.

Sinner 07-26-2024 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 998160)
Lynch 13 years 12,627 yds from scrimmage. 4.6 yds per touch

Kamara 7 years 10,048 yds from scrimmage. 5.5 yds per touch

I hope Kamara stays Kamara. A baller.

He gone soft. You can see it with your own eyes. Watch.

rezburna 07-26-2024 12:57 PM

Re: ALVIN KAMARA posts cryptic messages on social media amid contract saga
 
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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 998156)
Yeah I’d much rather be discussing him looking more like Marshawn Lynch on the field, than the importance of him retiring with a Saints Jersey on and an unlimited retirement plan for his family. I’d like to see him BALL this year, more than tweet.

Our QB is a DUD, and our O-line is everybody’s go to excuse, and we need a HEAD COACH.

You won’t see me jump out the window to defend Carr, but the offensive line is more than just an excuse. They’ve been ineffective at both pass protection and run blocking. For a team that wants to run it up the middle we’ve done a poor job of assembling an interior offensive line. I’ve had the new college football game for a while now and the first thing I did was go and recruit as many elite offensive lineman as I could find. It always starts in the trenches for me.

Sinner 07-26-2024 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 998162)
You won’t see me jump out the window to defend Carr, but the offensive line is more than just an excuse. They’ve been ineffective at both pass protection and run blocking. For a team that wants to run it up the middle we’ve done a poor job of assembling an interior offensive line. I’ve had the new college football game for a while now and the first thing I did was go and recruit as many elite offensive lineman as I could find. It always starts in the trenches for me.

Well, we get to see what Kubiak does…

saintsfan1976 07-26-2024 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 998163)
Well, we get to see what Kubiak does…

John Benton is your O line coach. One of the best.

John Benton, a 33-year veteran in the coaching ranks, including 19 in the NFL, enters his first season as offensive line coach with the New Orleans Saints. Of the NFL offensive lines he has directed since 2004, seven seasons those teams have finished in the top ten in the league in rushing yards per game.

:bng:

saintsfan1976 07-26-2024 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 998162)
You won’t see me jump out the window to defend Carr, but the offensive line is more than just an excuse. They’ve been ineffective at both pass protection and run blocking. For a team that wants to run it up the middle we’ve done a poor job of assembling an interior offensive line. I’ve had the new college football game for a while now and the first thing I did was go and recruit as many elite offensive lineman as I could find. It always starts in the trenches for me.

Carr is not the guy. He tries hard to sound like the guy but it falls flat and he isn't clutch. Hate to admit it but Baker is more of a dawg than Carr.

AsylumGuido 07-26-2024 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 998165)
Carr is not the guy. He tries hard to sound like the guy but it falls flat and he isn't clutch. Hate to admit it but Baker is more of a dawg than Carr.

Unfortunately we saw clutch for much of the last two decades in Drew Brees. Our standards have been set ridiculously high. There are only a small handful of QB's in the league today that can be considered clutch. Being simply average means you are one of the 15-17 best players in the world at your position. It may be another two or three decades before we happen upon another QB that truly meets our expectations.

Sinner 07-26-2024 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 998169)
Unfortunately we saw clutch for much of the last two decades in Drew Brees. Our standards have been set ridiculously high. There are only a small handful of QB's in the league today that can be considered clutch. Being simply average means you are one of the 15-17 best players in the world at your position. It may be another two or three decades before we happen upon another QB that truly meets our expectations.

We’ll be dead by then, and the Saints will be long gone within the next decade.

rezburna 07-26-2024 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 998178)
We’ll be dead by then, and the Saints will be long gone within the next decade.

Who is we? 👀😂

mapcow 07-27-2024 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 998178)
We’ll be dead by then, and the Saints will be long gone within the next decade.

quido. :rofl:

mapcow 07-27-2024 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 998169)
Unfortunately we saw clutch for much of the last two decades in Drew Brees. Our standards have been set ridiculously high. There are only a small handful of QB's in the league today that can be considered clutch. Being simply average means you are one of the 15-17 best players in the world at your position. It may be another two or three decades before we happen upon another QB that truly meets our expectations.

uhhh... there is one on the horizon .. just 3 years down the path. Arch Manning. Prime Example of my wisdom over yours. :beatnik:

subguy 07-28-2024 04:32 AM

Re: ALVIN KAMARA posts cryptic messages on social media amid contract saga
 
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 998162)
You won’t see me jump out the window to defend Carr, but the offensive line is more than just an excuse. They’ve been ineffective at both pass protection and run blocking. For a team that wants to run it up the middle we’ve done a poor job of assembling an interior offensive line. I’ve had the new college football game for a while now and the first thing I did was go and recruit as many elite offensive lineman as I could find. It always starts in the trenches for me.

I would agree with all of this. Carr is more of a bridge to a final destination, not the destination. That said, the O-Line now vs. when Drew was our QB is not comparable, and not in a good way.

Drew could make a no-name receiver, a named receiver. Carr will never do that.

I want to see how the team operates under the new offense. I think we have the opportunity to have a solid offense, but how impactful will be seen.

Sinner 07-28-2024 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by subguy (Post 998226)
I would agree with all of this. Carr is more of a bridge to a final destination, not the destination. That said, the O-Line now vs. when Drew was our QB is not comparable, and not in a good way.

Drew could make a no-name receiver, a named receiver. Carr will never do that.

I want to see how the team operates under the new offense. I think we have the opportunity to have a solid offense, but how impactful will be seen.

Good points… But Carr, being an overpaid bridge, and someone who couldn’t even dream of doing what Drew did, and having a Head Coach who is a DUD, keeps us in a perpetual state of irrelevance, if not mediocrity. These two key components, QB and Head Coach, were simply not addressed properly by our inept management, and shuffling all of these other chess pieces around, unfortunately will not make us a contender for championship status.

saintsfan1976 07-28-2024 12:07 PM

Re: ALVIN KAMARA posts cryptic messages on social media amid contract saga
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 998169)
Unfortunately we saw clutch for much of the last two decades in Drew Brees. Our standards have been set ridiculously high. There are only a small handful of QB's in the league today that can be considered clutch. Being simply average means you are one of the 15-17 best players in the world at your position. It may be another two or three decades before we happen upon another QB that truly meets our expectations.

I don't compare Carr to Brees.

"Being Clutch" would be someone who more often than not, makes a play when you need it.

In Carr, I see a QB who struggles to finish drives in the red zone. He's inconsistent, he's full of platitudes that feel hollow and seems to shrink when it counts most.

We don't need Drew Brees, we need more consistent execution.

AsylumGuido 07-28-2024 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 998239)
I don't compare Carr to Brees.

"Being Clutch" would be someone who more often than not, makes a play when you need it.

In Carr, I see a QB who struggles to finish drives in the red zone. He's inconsistent, he's full of platitudes that feel hollow and seems to shrink when it counts most.

We don't need Drew Brees, we need more consistent execution.

Let's just see what he does without having to deal with inept playcalling. Carmichael was calling the same crap in 2022 and we only won seven games.

Sinner 07-28-2024 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 998242)
Let's just see what he does without having to deal with inept playcalling. Carmichael was calling the same crap in 2022 and we only won seven games.

“Let’s just see what he does…” Translation: We overpaid for Raider Trash Removal and I already have Season Tickets for the refurbished dome, so…

TheOak 07-29-2024 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 998111)
Looks like you’re more of a fan of celebrity financial independence, and less of a fan of BEAST MODE FOOTBALL. We’re different, but if that’s the prevailing trend, game has indeed changed.

Looks like you.. umm...make **** up as you go. have system 1 cognitive bindless.. do not understand what I have said.

It is the players obligation to go after every dollar he can using every tactic he can because Loomis is going to take away every dollar he can using every tactic he can. Some people can not separate the entertainment industry side from the business side.

Football as a sport ends in college probably high school.

mapcow 07-29-2024 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 998261)
Looks like you.. umm...make **** up as you go. have system 1 cognitive bindless.. do not understand what I have said.

It is the players obligation to go after every dollar he can using every tactic he can because Loomis is going to take away every dollar he can using every tactic he can. Some people can not separate the entertainment industry side from the business side.

Football as a sport ends in college probably high school.

...even beating on innocent people and subsequently charged with assault and battery. give me a break. AK is a thug and should not even be playing in the NFL. :beatnik:

Sinner 07-29-2024 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 998261)
Looks like you.. umm...make **** up as you go. have system 1 cognitive bindless.. do not understand what I have said.

It is the players obligation to go after every dollar he can using every tactic he can because Loomis is going to take away every dollar he can using every tactic he can. Some people can not separate the entertainment industry side from the business side.

Football as a sport ends in college probably high school.

I didn’t “umm make sh*t up as I go” when I watched Football as a younger Man, and it wasn’t high school or college football, and even if it was about the money, or just a fraction of the money that these entertainers make today, they went out into the mud and balled their @sses off. Maybe you’re still just a kid, and never got to see how the game was played at the PROFESSIONAL level, even just a few short decades ago, but I will agree with you on the fact that in general, Football is pretty much ending as a sport, and even as “entertainment”, especially in New Orleans.

rezburna 07-29-2024 01:42 PM

Re: ALVIN KAMARA posts cryptic messages on social media amid contract saga
 
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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 998243)
“Let’s just see what he does…” Translation: We overpaid for Raider Trash Removal and I already have Season Tickets for the refurbished dome, so…

He’s like the 18th highest paid QB right now, which is right about where he ranks as a QB in the league. He had the 16th highest QBR last year. $37 million really isn’t a lot to being a QB in 2024. Goff is getting $50 million a year to manage games in a similar fashion to Carr. Like I said previously, if he stinks it up take the cap hit and move off of him next year. I don’t feel like we’re in doomsday mode. It’s a make or break season for both Carr and Allen.

Sinner 07-29-2024 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 998288)
He’s like the 18th highest paid QB right now, which is right about where he ranks as a QB in the league. He had the 16th highest QBR last year. $37 million really isn’t a lot to being a QB in 2024. Goff is getting $50 million a year to manage games in a similar fashion to Carr. Like I said previously, if he stinks it up take the cap hit and move off of him next year. I don’t feel like we’re in doomsday mode. It’s a make or break season for both Carr and Allen.

With ALL DUE RESPECT (to you, not to them), we heard the exact same thing about Allen and Carr this time last year. And here we are. Again…

Best AND worst case scenario, they both “perform” just adequately enough to stick around.

rezburna 07-29-2024 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 998305)
With ALL DUE RESPECT (to you, not to them), we heard the exact same thing about Allen and Carr this time last year. And here we are. Again…

Best AND worst case scenario, they both “perform” just adequately enough to stick around.

I understand the pessimism, bruh. I really do.

AsylumGuido 07-29-2024 05:23 PM

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AsylumGuido 07-29-2024 05:25 PM

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Sinner 07-29-2024 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 998329)

Mickey says: "I want him to play for us, and I think eventually this will just work out…” It should have ALREADY been worked out. We might have a bit more “FIRE” at the moment. Right now we’re set to snooze…

BakoSaint 07-30-2024 12:19 AM

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Kamara is already under contract and his agent could be professionally disgraced and committed to an institution if he urged a 29yo rb coming off a down year to hold out because he is only slated to make $12 million. We dont need to sign Kamara, he is under contract and will play. Loomis needs to stick to his guns.

Just because something is proportional does not mean it is fair. I would not consider half price for a single shoe a great deal. I would not want pay half Wembayans rookie salary and the #2 overall pick in the nba draft for a 3ft 8in center. Likewise, paying 18th highest salary for the 18th best qb is actually a bad deal. If your qb is mediocre, you want their salary to be practically free or you are losing. Paying 75% of Mahomes salary for a proven mediocrity and being able to spend the difference for Ram to watch Tv or Kamara to make 30th bday plans is never going to win a ring.

The Lions are a unique situation. Basically they are paying Bobby Hebert $50 million a year. They were irrelevent so long that being a decent playoff team is a revelation to them. They won their division maybe for the first time in franchise history. Goff is an average QB but with their situation he had all the leverage and since they were already winning now they could not risk a reset. The Saints are not doing anything very impressive with Carr and should not be as desperate to settle for mediocrity at QB.

Sinner 07-30-2024 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 998341)
Kamara is already under contract and his agent could be professionally disgraced and committed to an institution if he urged a 29yo rb coming off a down year to hold out because he is only slated to make $12 million. We dont need to sign Kamara, he is under contract and will play. Loomis needs to stick to his guns.

Just because something is proportional does not mean it is fair. I would not consider half price for a single shoe a great deal. I would not want pay half Wembayans rookie salary and the #2 overall pick in the nba draft for a 3ft 8in center. Likewise, paying 18th highest salary for the 18th best qb is actually a bad deal. If your qb is mediocre, you want their salary to be practically free or you are losing. Paying 75% of Mahomes salary for a proven mediocrity and being able to spend the difference for Ram to watch Tv or Kamara to make 30th bday plans is never going to win a ring.

The Lions are a unique situation. Basically they are paying Bobby Hebert $50 million a year. They were irrelevent so long that being a decent playoff team is a revelation to them. They won their division maybe for the first time in franchise history. Goff is an average QB but with their situation he had all the leverage and since they were already winning now they could not risk a reset. The Saints are not doing anything very impressive with Carr and should not be as desperate to settle for mediocrity at QB.

^^^ Crystal Clear…

TheOak 08-01-2024 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by mapcow (Post 998262)
...even beating on innocent people and subsequently charged with assault and battery. give me a break. AK is a thug and should not even be playing in the NFL. :beatnik:

1. That is a deflection.
2. Thug - (noun) a violent, aggressive person, especially one who is a criminal. ("especially" does not denote a requirement).

Take all the thugs (violent and aggressive players) off the field and you may.. may.. be able to put 11 kickers on the field, providing they play both ways.. Which episode of The Twilight Zone do you live in? Football is a gladiator sport :bng:
I do not give two sh**s whether you like him or not, I don't know the man to like or dislike him. What I do know is that the league created and supports the situation where players do what he is doing. Don't like it... Go visit RG.

TheOak 08-01-2024 06:32 AM

Re: AK QUOTE OF THE DAY…
 
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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 998285)
I didn’t “umm make sh*t up as I go” when I watched Football as a younger Man, and it wasn’t high school or college football, and even if it was about the money, or just a fraction of the money that these entertainers make today, they went out into the mud and balled their @sses off. Maybe you’re still just a kid, and never got to see how the game was played at the PROFESSIONAL level, even just a few short decades ago, but I will agree with you on the fact that in general, Football is pretty much ending as a sport, and even as “entertainment”, especially in New Orleans.

Chances are that I have socks older than you and while you were watching, I played.. Both sides and special teams so don't tell me about leaving it on the field.

Sinner 08-01-2024 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 998457)
Chances are that I have socks older than you and while you were watching, I played.. Both sides and special teams so don't tell me about leaving it on the field.

i already did tell you about it. Now go put on some new socks son.

mapcow 08-01-2024 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 998456)
1. That is a deflection.
2. Thug - (noun) a violent, aggressive person, especially one who is a criminal. ("especially" does not denote a requirement).

Take all the thugs (violent and aggressive players) off the field and you may.. may.. be able to put 11 kickers on the field, providing they play both ways.. Which episode of The Twilight Zone do you live in? Football is a gladiator sport :bng:
I do not give two sh**s whether you like him or not, I don't know the man to like or dislike him. What I do know is that the league created and supports the situation where players do what he is doing. Don't like it... Go visit RG.

no deflection... fact. the thug has a record of assault and battery. cut bait. NFL can do better. possible future OJ.... i can't help your misguided viewpoint :beatnik:

AsylumGuido 08-01-2024 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 998456)
1. That is a deflection.
2. Thug - (noun) a violent, aggressive person, especially one who is a criminal. ("especially" does not denote a requirement).

Take all the thugs (violent and aggressive players) off the field and you may.. may.. be able to put 11 kickers on the field, providing they play both ways.. Which episode of The Twilight Zone do you live in? Football is a gladiator sport :bng:
I do not give two sh**s whether you like him or not, I don't know the man to like or dislike him. What I do know is that the league created and supports the situation where players do what he is doing. Don't like it... Go visit RG.

Haters are going to hate, Oak, and trolls are going to troll. They show up for one reason and one reason alone and that's to fish for response. The trolls need fed to survive. They're totally full of crap from beginning to end. :rolleyes:

Sinner 08-01-2024 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 998479)
Haters are going to hate, Oak, and trolls are going to troll. They show up for one reason and one reason alone and that's to fish for response. The trolls need fed to survive. They're totally full of crap from beginning to end. :rolleyes:

Adjust your bib Rosie. Gonna be a long season.

mapcow 08-01-2024 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 998479)
Haters are going to hate, Oak, and trolls are going to troll. They show up for one reason and one reason alone and that's to fish for response. The trolls need fed to survive. They're totally full of crap from beginning to end. :rolleyes:

uh... no. Facts are hard to dispute, especially for you. And if you believe what you posted, then don't respond. truth and facts hurt sometimes. :beatnik:

BakoSaint 08-01-2024 02:36 PM

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Kamara's off the field issue is a negative but it is not an uncommon negative. Many NFL stars have off the field issues. Some repeat, some don't. A player with one issue is more likely to have another than one who doesn't and would be suspended more harshly if they did. But many stars have major off the field issues of one kind or another in pros or college: Adrian Peterson, Tyreek Hill, Kareem Hunt, Ray Rice, Ray Lewis, Ben Roethlisberger, Antonio Brown, Tyrann Mathieu, Michael Vick, Plaxico Burress, etc. Some players come back and never have another issue, others have more issues that sometimes end their careers. So for availability, its just like an ACL injury or something, you dont know if it will re-occur or not. Its a risk, but one you sometimes have to live with. Because the Boy Scouts of America have never won an NFL game. Kamara ain't a boy scout, but he is a useful player. Just probably not more useful than players like Mixon or Mathieu or Davis who he wants a much bigger contract than because he thinks he is still comperable to McCafferey despite the last 2 years saying he isnt.

mapcow 08-01-2024 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 998493)
Kamara's off the field issue is a negative but it is not an uncommon negative. Many NFL stars have off the field issues. Some repeat, some don't. A player with one issue is more likely to have another than one who doesn't and would be suspended more harshly if they did. But many stars have major off the field issues of one kind or another in pros or college: Adrian Peterson, Tyreek Hill, Kareem Hunt, Ray Rice, Ray Lewis, Ben Roethlisberger, Antonio Brown, Tyrann Mathieu, Michael Vick, Plaxico Burress, etc. Some players come back and never have another issue, others have more issues that sometimes end their careers. So for availability, its just like an ACL injury or something, you dont know if it will re-occur or not. Its a risk, but one you sometimes have to live with. Because the Boy Scouts of America have never won an NFL game. Kamara ain't a boy scout, but he is a useful player. Just probably not more useful than players like Mixon or Mathieu or Davis who he wants a much bigger contract than because he thinks he is still comperable to McCafferey despite the last 2 years saying he isnt.

Well said... my point is the NFL should not tolerate violent crimes at all. Put a morality clause in it bylaws; not contract. and i have every right as a FAN to not root or promote such behavior. and, one strike and your out, no second chance, the victim of said crime gets none. simple :beatnik:


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