Potential 2025 Rebuild Math

AsylumGuido · 07-28-2024, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

Only time will tell what will happen. If Carr has a better season than he did last year and we win more games, surely we will keep him. But all coins have two sides, so he may have a worse season. If he has a worse season, its good to have an out. So, I explored what that out would look like and showed its possible. This beats just saying offhand 'we have an out in 2026' but ignoring that restructuring in 2025 will make that out as big or bigger a cap hit than it would be in 2025. If someone who thinks the better season scenario is more likely wants to write a post about what a contract restructure would look like if we win the Super Bowl or get close, they are free to do so.

In the end I think there have been a lot of attempts to salvage Derek Carr: He just needed a better offensive minded head coach... enter Jon Gruden. He just needed a true #1 receiver he would have good chemistry with... enter Davante Adams. He just needed a change of scenery away from that Raiders stink... enter New Orleans. Now he just needs young potentially innovative offensive coordinator... enter Klint Kubiak. Will the fourth time be the charm??? We'll see.

I don't know what you are looking at, but Carr has had a pretty solid career to date. He was saddled with historically bad defenses (the best of which was ranked 25!) for his whole Raiders career which resulted in poor records several of those years, but the last I checked NFL teams are made up of 53 roster players, not just one.

And yes, you can say every coin has two sides, but you always seem to be playing with a two tailed one in your philosophizing.

07-28-2024, 12:36 PM	#14
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Potential 2025 Rebuild Math Originally Posted by BakoSaint Only time will tell what will happen. If Carr has a better season than he did last year and we win more games, surely we will keep him. But all coins have two sides, so he may have a worse season. If he has a worse season, its good to have an out. So, I explored what that out would look like and showed its possible. This beats just saying offhand 'we have an out in 2026' but ignoring that restructuring in 2025 will make that out as big or bigger a cap hit than it would be in 2025. If someone who thinks the better season scenario is more likely wants to write a post about what a contract restructure would look like if we win the Super Bowl or get close, they are free to do so. In the end I think there have been a lot of attempts to salvage Derek Carr: He just needed a better offensive minded head coach... enter Jon Gruden. He just needed a true #1 receiver he would have good chemistry with... enter Davante Adams. He just needed a change of scenery away from that Raiders stink... enter New Orleans. Now he just needs young potentially innovative offensive coordinator... enter Klint Kubiak. Will the fourth time be the charm??? We'll see. I don't know what you are looking at, but Carr has had a pretty solid career to date. He was saddled with historically bad defenses (the best of which was ranked 25!) for his whole Raiders career which resulted in poor records several of those years, but the last I checked NFL teams are made up of 53 roster players, not just one. And yes, you can say every coin has two sides, but you always seem to be playing with a two tailed one in your philosophizing.