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Observations from the Saints beating the Cowboys 44-19

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I'm wondering how much tape will be needed before Defensive Coordinators catch on to Kubiak's Offense? I'm guessing by Week 4 we may see some defensive wrinkles. It's still fun to watch tho....

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Old 09-16-2024, 12:09 PM   #71
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I'm wondering how much tape will be needed before Defensive Coordinators catch on to Kubiak's Offense?

I'm guessing by Week 4 we may see some defensive wrinkles. It's still fun to watch tho.
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Old 09-16-2024, 12:26 PM   #72
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If this is a team that can win it all, our best chance is to do it this year, because unlike other teams that have found the formula following a rebuild etc, we may have found the formula while already having more spending on the credit card than any team in the league. In the long term, our financial situation is not a positive and we should be realistic about it. We are not going to be able to keep everyone and we will have to be careful with money and good with draft picks.

People often talk about how the 49ers are doing great now but soon they won't be able to keep all those great players together. But the 49ers are $57 million under the 2024 salary cap while the Saints are $4 million under. For 2025 the 49ers project $56 million under and the Saints $81 million over. So in the next 2 years the 49ers have $190 million more to keep their players. The Saints will be able to restructure lots of contracts and get under the cap, but we do have to be careful with money and I don't think we can give Olave, Shaheed, and Kamara all Deebo, Aiyuk, and CMC contracts and pay Chase Young, Lattimore, Adebo, Taylor, etc. It may be smart next year to try to trade someone for a pick rather than extending them, and that will not be Lattimore who will not get us a pick with his age and injury. But its possible we can't keep Olave, Shaheed, Adebo, and Taylor all, and maybe we need to trade one for a pick and hit on that pick to sustain success under financial constraints.

Our salary cap situation may limit our ability to use the franchise tag to keep players. With all the big contracts players are getting, franchise tags could be $40 million for QB and $30 million for several other positions, and if you apply that tag you cant just 'restructure' it to get under the cap until the player agrees to a long term deal, you have to carry that money under the cap. If a lot of our young players start needing long term deals, we may not have access to that tool that teams like the 49ers have used.

At the same time, if we restructured EVERYONE we might be able to free up $40 million cap space. But its not smart to restructure EVERYONE and then spend that cash because then you have no possible cap space and you can't use the franchise tag and you can't cut anyone or let contracts expire for fear of dead cap hits. You dont want a situation where extending the players who haven't been productive such as Ram and Cam is the only way to get under the cap and you let Adebo walk for nothing because the franchise tag on CB hits $25 million and you don't have $25 million. You need a strategic reserve.

I hope we can win now and continue to draft well. Drafting well will be key. We can't afford to be making big trades up in the first round like our mistakes of the past, as we will need lots of young talent.

I see Ram and Lattimore as our post-June-1 cuts next offseason. Ram's comeback was always an extreme longshot. Now that we have two starting tackles already there is no way we could afford the luxury of a backup who we have no idea if he could stay healthy and he probably couldnt, who is due to make like $20 million. Also, with the long term need to pay Olave, Shaheed, Adebo, and Taylor, it doesn't make sense to keep Lattimore when he is missing 50% of games the last 3 years, unless he volunteers for a major real total compensation pay cut.

It is good that we have most of our draft picks. I could see us taking a receiver or guard in the late 1st round. I dont trust our front office on dline right now. I think we need depth at TE too but its better to draft that position in the mid rounds.

It could make sense to consider some cheap mid season trades this year. If we could get a capable backup guard and WR3 with minimal cap impact it could be worth some late picks to win now. Maybe even a RB2.

It will be hard to keep Kubiak unless he is apprehensive about head coaching. Few people will pass up on a contract that will guarantee them at least $40 million of life changing money and also fame and a chance at personal glory. I think he could make $10 million a year if he is the hottest HC candidate. What are we going to pay him as HC? It possible, some people think differently, just not most. But the hope is that even if Kubiak did move on, another protege could retain his system.

I am glad the team is fun to watch. I got tickets to our home game against the Falcons and road game against the Chargers.
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Old 09-16-2024, 12:27 PM   #73
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I'm wondering how much tape will be needed before Defensive Coordinators catch on to Kubiak's Offense?

I'm guessing by Week 4 we may see some defensive wrinkles. It's still fun to watch tho.
You KNOW that everyone on our remaining schedule is studying it closely, after what just happened to Dallas.
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I'm wondering how much tape will be needed before Defensive Coordinators catch on to Kubiak's Offense?

I'm guessing by Week 4 we may see some defensive wrinkles. It's still fun to watch tho.
Half the league is using the same basic offense. There's several years worth of tape out there. The problem is that the offense is so unpredictable. The same look can end up in ten totally different plays. Add in the fact that the motion will almost always give a tell to what the defense is doing so the play can be adjusted on the fly.

Of course, the personnel running the offense is critical. Look at Miami and the Niners. They've had the right type of players and run the same basic looks. We also have the right players.

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The Cowboys knew what was coming but remain unable to defend it.

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