Observations from Saints and Eagles game in the Superdome

frydaddy · 09-22-2024, 04:30 PM

I had some concerns that this offense might not be well built for playing from behind, or when the running game wasn't quite clicking. Today did nothing to ease those concerns. Defense played well overall, but they were clearly gassed about midway into the third quarter. Hard to blame them when the offense had only generated 80 something yards all day at that point. Can't help but feel like that was a major contributing factor to all the sloppy tackling and blown assignments.

It's one game, and it won't make or break the season..But they're gonna need to figure out a way to make adjustments on offense when the run game isn't working. You know future opponents are gonna watch this performance and use it to their advantage, you'd better have an answer. Otherwise, this whole season could go off the rails quickly. And while we're on train metaphors, Lucas Patrick at center is a train wreck. Better hope Mccoy doesn't miss much time.

K Major · 09-22-2024, 04:54 PM

Offensive line depth is not good in NO.

Udoh was bad bad today.

Same goes for Patrick.

Mr.Riaton · 09-22-2024, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Offensive line depth is not good in NO.

Udoh was bad bad today.

Same goes for Patrick.

My main concern coming into the season was the performance of the O line. My second concern was the depth…

keithday123 · 09-22-2024, 09:53 PM

Seems over a number of years that there are certain teams that are just nightmare matchups for the Saints no matter players or coaching staff. The Vikings and Eagles both fit the profile for some reason. I mentioned in another thread after the panthers game that this game, not the cowboys game, would be our gauge. No doubt it was a bit of a letdown today but as a Saints fan are you totally surprised? Good news is we play one of the teams we seem to own over the years next week and I will be more disappointed with a bad showing there.

Sinner · 09-22-2024, 11:31 PM

Originally Posted by keithday123

Seems over a number of years that there are certain teams that are just nightmare matchups for the Saints no matter players or coaching staff. The Vikings and Eagles both fit the profile for some reason. I mentioned in another thread after the panthers game that this game, not the cowboys game, would be our gauge. No doubt it was a bit of a letdown today but as a Saints fan are you totally surprised? Good news is we play one of the teams we seem to own over the years next week and I will be more disappointed with a bad showing there.

The team we face next week handled the team we just lost to. Should be an interesting game and gauge.

saintsfan1976 · 09-23-2024, 06:42 AM

We knew this team was going into the season on a razor's edge and that a few key injuries could derail the entire season and O Line was our #1 concern.

McCoy was a huge loss, forcing changes to center AND left guard paving the way for their interior defenders to wreak havoc.

The loss of McCoy also left Ruiz exposed and he was repeatedly beat on critical plays.

Maybe Taysom could've provided some help but why wasn't Jamal Williams used more often??

I'm willing to bet Kubiak won't be happy with his play calling come Monday.

rezburna · 09-23-2024, 07:08 AM

It’s all about match ups. Styles make fights. Eagles have an elite group of DT’s and a great defensive line while our offensive line is shaky and downright abysmal when McCoy goes out. Couple that with the fact our QB is really just a game manager and you’ve got some cause for concern. Not to mention the Eagles are an extremely talented team that didn’t want to fall to 1-2. They just seemed to want it more. They played hard and schemed very well defensively. The Falcons beating them doesn’t mean anything. Every single game is an individual test because individual position battles can change the outcome….IE our safeties vs Dallas Goedert.

Cruize · 09-23-2024, 08:20 AM

-The good teams who are there at the end, find a way to win games like the Saints lost yesterday.
-The loss of McCoy was huge. Patrick is a much better guard than center. Udoh was terrible. Hergel needs to be called up.
-Sirianni tried his best to give the Saints the game by not taking points and Allen gave it right back by not taking points. Terrible coaching all around.
-Granderson gives 110 percent on every play. Bresee not so much.
-Kamara and Olave were the only two offensive players to show up yesterday.
-Shaheed makes a big play or no plays at all.
-You have to make sure you have Goedert covered on 3rd and 16. Their only weapon in the passing game. Terrible.
-The run defense moving forward has to be tightened up.
-Big game this week on the road. The Saints can take early command of the division. Pressure all day on Cousins. Double cover the TE. Don't let Robinson have any big plays.
-The NFL as a whole has been almost unwatchable so far this season.

Sinner · 09-23-2024, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by Cruize

-The good teams who are there at the end, find a way to win games like the Saints lost yesterday.
-The loss of McCoy was huge. Patrick is a much better guard than center. Udoh was terrible. Hergel needs to be called up.
-Sirianni tried his best to give the Saints the game by not taking points and Allen gave it right back by not taking points. Terrible coaching all around.
-Granderson gives 110 percent on every play. Bresee not so much.
-Kamara and Olave were the only two offensive players to show up yesterday.
-Shaheed makes a big play or no plays at all.
-You have to make sure you have Goedert covered on 3rd and 16. Their only weapon in the passing game. Terrible.
-The run defense moving forward has to be tightened up.
-Big game this week on the road. The Saints can take early command of the division. Pressure all day on Cousins. Double cover the TE. Don't let Robinson have any big plays.
-The NFL as a whole has been almost unwatchable so far this season.

“ -The good teams who are there at the end, find a way to win games like the Saints lost yesterday.”

WW_Who_Dat · 09-23-2024, 08:26 AM

Was at the game and it was very evident from the 1st snap the Eagles Defensive front out match our Oline and played Bully Ball all day. That was when McCoy was in and it just intensified when he went out. You could point at the guards just being run over but but both our tackles were on skates.

Only good tackle block I saw was Trevor on the sideline blocking Darius Slay. 🤭

Without Hill and after losing McCoy the offensive play calling looked very generic like Kubiack had lost 60% of the playbook. The shuffling on the Oline did not help.

09-22-2024, 04:30 PM	#1
frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,952 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Observations from Saints and Eagles game in the Superdome I had some concerns that this offense might not be well built for playing from behind, or when the running game wasn't quite clicking. Today did nothing to ease those concerns. Defense played well overall, but they were clearly gassed about midway into the third quarter. Hard to blame them when the offense had only generated 80 something yards all day at that point. Can't help but feel like that was a major contributing factor to all the sloppy tackling and blown assignments. It's one game, and it won't make or break the season..But they're gonna need to figure out a way to make adjustments on offense when the run game isn't working. You know future opponents are gonna watch this performance and use it to their advantage, you'd better have an answer. Otherwise, this whole season could go off the rails quickly. And while we're on train metaphors, Lucas Patrick at center is a train wreck. Better hope Mccoy doesn't miss much time. Sinner likes this.
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09-22-2024, 04:54 PM	#2
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,766 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from Saints and Eagles game in the Superdome Offensive line depth is not good in NO. Udoh was bad bad today. Same goes for Patrick. saintsfan1976 and Sinner like this.

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Mr.Riaton 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Broussard,La. Posts: 1,305	Re: Observations from Saints and Eagles game in the Superdome Originally Posted by K Major Offensive line depth is not good in NO. Udoh was bad bad today. Same goes for Patrick. My main concern coming into the season was the performance of the O line. My second concern was the depth… Sinner and K Major like this.

09-22-2024, 09:53 PM	#4
keithday123 Texasaint Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 206	Re: Observations from Saints and Eagles game in the Superdome Seems over a number of years that there are certain teams that are just nightmare matchups for the Saints no matter players or coaching staff. The Vikings and Eagles both fit the profile for some reason. I mentioned in another thread after the panthers game that this game, not the cowboys game, would be our gauge. No doubt it was a bit of a letdown today but as a Saints fan are you totally surprised? Good news is we play one of the teams we seem to own over the years next week and I will be more disappointed with a bad showing there.
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09-22-2024, 11:31 PM	#5
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,058	Re: Observations from Saints and Eagles game in the Superdome Originally Posted by keithday123 Seems over a number of years that there are certain teams that are just nightmare matchups for the Saints no matter players or coaching staff. The Vikings and Eagles both fit the profile for some reason. I mentioned in another thread after the panthers game that this game, not the cowboys game, would be our gauge. No doubt it was a bit of a letdown today but as a Saints fan are you totally surprised? Good news is we play one of the teams we seem to own over the years next week and I will be more disappointed with a bad showing there. The team we face next week handled the team we just lost to. Should be an interesting game and gauge.
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09-23-2024, 06:42 AM	#6
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,989 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from Saints and Eagles game in the Superdome We knew this team was going into the season on a razor's edge and that a few key injuries could derail the entire season and O Line was our #1 concern. McCoy was a huge loss, forcing changes to center AND left guard paving the way for their interior defenders to wreak havoc. The loss of McCoy also left Ruiz exposed and he was repeatedly beat on critical plays. Maybe Taysom could've provided some help but why wasn't Jamal Williams used more often?? I'm willing to bet Kubiak won't be happy with his play calling come Monday.

09-23-2024, 07:08 AM	#7
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,006	Re: Observations from Saints and Eagles game in the Superdome It’s all about match ups. Styles make fights. Eagles have an elite group of DT’s and a great defensive line while our offensive line is shaky and downright abysmal when McCoy goes out. Couple that with the fact our QB is really just a game manager and you’ve got some cause for concern. Not to mention the Eagles are an extremely talented team that didn’t want to fall to 1-2. They just seemed to want it more. They played hard and schemed very well defensively. The Falcons beating them doesn’t mean anything. Every single game is an individual test because individual position battles can change the outcome….IE our safeties vs Dallas Goedert. Danno, neugey, WW_Who_Dat and 1 others like this.
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09-23-2024, 08:20 AM	#8
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,457	Re: Observations from Saints and Eagles game in the Superdome -The good teams who are there at the end, find a way to win games like the Saints lost yesterday. -The loss of McCoy was huge. Patrick is a much better guard than center. Udoh was terrible. Hergel needs to be called up. -Sirianni tried his best to give the Saints the game by not taking points and Allen gave it right back by not taking points. Terrible coaching all around. -Granderson gives 110 percent on every play. Bresee not so much. -Kamara and Olave were the only two offensive players to show up yesterday. -Shaheed makes a big play or no plays at all. -You have to make sure you have Goedert covered on 3rd and 16. Their only weapon in the passing game. Terrible. -The run defense moving forward has to be tightened up. -Big game this week on the road. The Saints can take early command of the division. Pressure all day on Cousins. Double cover the TE. Don't let Robinson have any big plays. -The NFL as a whole has been almost unwatchable so far this season. Sinner likes this.
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09-23-2024, 09:38 AM	#9
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,058	Re: Observations from Saints and Eagles game in the Superdome Originally Posted by Cruize -The good teams who are there at the end, find a way to win games like the Saints lost yesterday. -The loss of McCoy was huge. Patrick is a much better guard than center. Udoh was terrible. Hergel needs to be called up. -Sirianni tried his best to give the Saints the game by not taking points and Allen gave it right back by not taking points. Terrible coaching all around. -Granderson gives 110 percent on every play. Bresee not so much. -Kamara and Olave were the only two offensive players to show up yesterday. -Shaheed makes a big play or no plays at all. -You have to make sure you have Goedert covered on 3rd and 16. Their only weapon in the passing game. Terrible. -The run defense moving forward has to be tightened up. -Big game this week on the road. The Saints can take early command of the division. Pressure all day on Cousins. Double cover the TE. Don't let Robinson have any big plays. -The NFL as a whole has been almost unwatchable so far this season. “ -The good teams who are there at the end, find a way to win games like the Saints lost yesterday.”
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09-23-2024, 08:26 AM	#10
WW_Who_Dat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lafayette, La and Valencia CA Posts: 1,276 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Observations from Saints and Eagles game in the Superdome Was at the game and it was very evident from the 1st snap the Eagles Defensive front out match our Oline and played Bully Ball all day. That was when McCoy was in and it just intensified when he went out. You could point at the guards just being run over but but both our tackles were on skates. Only good tackle block I saw was Trevor on the sideline blocking Darius Slay. 🤭 Without Hill and after losing McCoy the offensive play calling looked very generic like Kubiack had lost 60% of the playbook. The shuffling on the Oline did not help.