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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by AsylumGuido It's not a season long thing and he could pull us through in the short term. Have faith, my friend. True. We haven’t seen the last of Carr… Yet....

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Old 10-10-2024, 07:59 PM   #41
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Re: Haener or Rattler

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido View Post
It's not a season long thing and he could pull us through in the short term. Have faith, my friend.
True. We haven’t seen the last of Carr… Yet.
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Old 10-10-2024, 08:48 PM   #42
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Underhill eluded to it earlier but Rattler is used to playing with bad o lines.

What makes him exciting is his ability to move away from pressure to buy time.

Something Carr rarely did this season to help out his oline.
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Old 10-10-2024, 08:55 PM   #43
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Underhill eluded to it earlier but Rattler is used to playing with bad o lines.

What makes him exciting is his ability to move away from pressure to buy time.

Something Carr rarely did this season to help out his oline.
Something that Carr never had the ability to do. Not surprising.
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Re: Haener or Rattler

Well, it's looking like we will see three letters in the near future that we have never seen in NOLA:

R.P.O.

Let's see what ya got Klint!
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Anyone catch the Niners/Hawk game?

Notice Purdy's footwork (extending plays) & how he's not afraid to make that contested pass.

My hope is that Rattler can eventually develop like that.
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Re: Haener or Rattler

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Well, it's looking like we will see three letters in the near that we have never seen in NOLA:

R.P.O.

Let's see what ya got Klint!
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Anyone catch the Niners/Hawk game?

Notice Purdy's footwork (extending plays) & how he's not afraid to make that contested pass.

My hope is that Rattler can eventually develop like that.
As opposed to a true RPO, leilung, I believe we'll see more of what Major pointed out about Purdy. Still playing the outside zone run, but using Rattler's legs to elude the pressure and buy time on the pass plays. If we can get that outside zone going again like we did the first two games we can make that play action work again. We know Rattler likes throw downfield.

However, I wouldn't expect Kubiak to call many designed runs or even RPO's for Rattler since his backup wouldn't be able to run that game plan. At least there's nothing I've seen from Haener that says he can.

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Old 10-11-2024, 12:06 PM   #48
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As opposed to a true RPO, leilung, I believe we'll see more of what Major pointed out about Purdy. Still playing the outside zone run, but using Rattler's legs to elude the pressure and buy time on the pass plays. If we can get that outside zone going again like we did the first two games we can make that play action work again. We know Rattler likes throw downfield.

However, I wouldn't expect Kubiak to call many designed runs or even RPO's for Rattler since his backup wouldn't be able to run that game plan. At least there's nothing I've seen from Haener that says he can.
That's a new one. Limit a QB because his backup can't do what he does.
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Old 10-11-2024, 12:07 PM   #49
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Haener will be in by the 4th quarter.
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That's a new one. Limit a QB because his backup can't do what he does.
In this case, yes. To a degree. The game day backup needs to be able to execute the game plan designed for the starter. That's why most every team has a backup with similar basic skillsets. That's the reason why Haener was Carr's game day backup. If Rattler becomes a fulltime starter some day I would expect we had a similar type of QB backing him up and the game planning could include a full spectrum of RPO type stuff. It makes perfect sense. But the playbook that Kubiak designed this year was based upon Carr's strengths and that will still be the main characteristic. Sure, they could add a twist here and there, but they aren't going to completely revamp everything at this point for Rattler. They simply do not have the time to do that based upon the CBA alone.

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