Haener or Rattler

Sinner · 10-10-2024, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

It's not a season long thing and he could pull us through in the short term. Have faith, my friend.

True. We haven’t seen the last of Carr… Yet.

K Major · 10-10-2024, 08:48 PM

Underhill eluded to it earlier but Rattler is used to playing with bad o lines.

What makes him exciting is his ability to move away from pressure to buy time.

Something Carr rarely did this season to help out his oline.

AsylumGuido · 10-10-2024, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Underhill eluded to it earlier but Rattler is used to playing with bad o lines.

What makes him exciting is his ability to move away from pressure to buy time.

Something Carr rarely did this season to help out his oline.

Something that Carr never had the ability to do. Not surprising.

leilung · 10-11-2024, 02:24 AM

Well, it's looking like we will see three letters in the near future that we have never seen in NOLA:

R.P.O.

Let's see what ya got Klint!

K Major · 10-11-2024, 08:17 AM

Anyone catch the Niners/Hawk game?

Notice Purdy's footwork (extending plays) & how he's not afraid to make that contested pass.

My hope is that Rattler can eventually develop like that.

K Major · 10-11-2024, 08:30 AM

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AsylumGuido · 10-11-2024, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by leilung

Well, it's looking like we will see three letters in the near that we have never seen in NOLA:

R.P.O.

Let's see what ya got Klint!

Originally Posted by K Major

Anyone catch the Niners/Hawk game?

Notice Purdy's footwork (extending plays) & how he's not afraid to make that contested pass.

My hope is that Rattler can eventually develop like that.

As opposed to a true RPO, leilung, I believe we'll see more of what Major pointed out about Purdy. Still playing the outside zone run, but using Rattler's legs to elude the pressure and buy time on the pass plays. If we can get that outside zone going again like we did the first two games we can make that play action work again. We know Rattler likes throw downfield.

However, I wouldn't expect Kubiak to call many designed runs or even RPO's for Rattler since his backup wouldn't be able to run that game plan. At least there's nothing I've seen from Haener that says he can.

iceshack149 · 10-11-2024, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

As opposed to a true RPO, leilung, I believe we'll see more of what Major pointed out about Purdy. Still playing the outside zone run, but using Rattler's legs to elude the pressure and buy time on the pass plays. If we can get that outside zone going again like we did the first two games we can make that play action work again. We know Rattler likes throw downfield.

However, I wouldn't expect Kubiak to call many designed runs or even RPO's for Rattler since his backup wouldn't be able to run that game plan. At least there's nothing I've seen from Haener that says he can.

That's a new one. Limit a QB because his backup can't do what he does.

Danno · 10-11-2024, 12:07 PM

Haener will be in by the 4th quarter.

AsylumGuido · 10-11-2024, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

That's a new one. Limit a QB because his backup can't do what he does.

In this case, yes. To a degree. The game day backup needs to be able to execute the game plan designed for the starter. That's why most every team has a backup with similar basic skillsets. That's the reason why Haener was Carr's game day backup. If Rattler becomes a fulltime starter some day I would expect we had a similar type of QB backing him up and the game planning could include a full spectrum of RPO type stuff. It makes perfect sense. But the playbook that Kubiak designed this year was based upon Carr's strengths and that will still be the main characteristic. Sure, they could add a twist here and there, but they aren't going to completely revamp everything at this point for Rattler. They simply do not have the time to do that based upon the CBA alone.

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10-10-2024, 08:48 PM	#42
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,618 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Haener or Rattler Underhill eluded to it earlier but Rattler is used to playing with bad o lines. What makes him exciting is his ability to move away from pressure to buy time. Something Carr rarely did this season to help out his oline. leilung, saintsfan1976 and Sinner like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,161	Re: Haener or Rattler Originally Posted by K Major Underhill eluded to it earlier but Rattler is used to playing with bad o lines. What makes him exciting is his ability to move away from pressure to buy time. Something Carr rarely did this season to help out his oline. Something that Carr never had the ability to do. Not surprising.

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leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,367	Re: Haener or Rattler Well, it's looking like we will see three letters in the near future that we have never seen in NOLA: R.P.O. Let's see what ya got Klint!

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,618 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Haener or Rattler Anyone catch the Niners/Hawk game? Notice Purdy's footwork (extending plays) & how he's not afraid to make that contested pass. My hope is that Rattler can eventually develop like that. Sinner likes this.

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10-11-2024, 10:04 AM	#47
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,161	Re: Haener or Rattler Originally Posted by leilung Well, it's looking like we will see three letters in the near that we have never seen in NOLA: R.P.O. Let's see what ya got Klint! Originally Posted by K Major Anyone catch the Niners/Hawk game? Notice Purdy's footwork (extending plays) & how he's not afraid to make that contested pass. My hope is that Rattler can eventually develop like that. As opposed to a true RPO, leilung, I believe we'll see more of what Major pointed out about Purdy. Still playing the outside zone run, but using Rattler's legs to elude the pressure and buy time on the pass plays. If we can get that outside zone going again like we did the first two games we can make that play action work again. We know Rattler likes throw downfield. However, I wouldn't expect Kubiak to call many designed runs or even RPO's for Rattler since his backup wouldn't be able to run that game plan. At least there's nothing I've seen from Haener that says he can.
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iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,253 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Haener or Rattler Originally Posted by AsylumGuido As opposed to a true RPO, leilung, I believe we'll see more of what Major pointed out about Purdy. Still playing the outside zone run, but using Rattler's legs to elude the pressure and buy time on the pass plays. If we can get that outside zone going again like we did the first two games we can make that play action work again. We know Rattler likes throw downfield. However, I wouldn't expect Kubiak to call many designed runs or even RPO's for Rattler since his backup wouldn't be able to run that game plan. At least there's nothing I've seen from Haener that says he can. That's a new one. Limit a QB because his backup can't do what he does.

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10-11-2024, 12:42 PM	#50
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,161	Re: Haener or Rattler Originally Posted by iceshack149 That's a new one. Limit a QB because his backup can't do what he does. In this case, yes. To a degree. The game day backup needs to be able to execute the game plan designed for the starter. That's why most every team has a backup with similar basic skillsets. That's the reason why Haener was Carr's game day backup. If Rattler becomes a fulltime starter some day I would expect we had a similar type of QB backing him up and the game planning could include a full spectrum of RPO type stuff. It makes perfect sense. But the playbook that Kubiak designed this year was based upon Carr's strengths and that will still be the main characteristic. Sure, they could add a twist here and there, but they aren't going to completely revamp everything at this point for Rattler. They simply do not have the time to do that based upon the CBA alone.
	“The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.” — Winston Churchill