No longer suckered in...

Sinner · 12-03-2024, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

My support won’t travel. I’m loyal to the city of New Orleans and the teams associated with it. I’d actively root against them like I do the Utah Jazz.

Understood. For me, it’s just something about them SAINTS.

AsylumGuido · 12-03-2024, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

My support won’t travel. I’m loyal to the city of New Orleans and the teams associated with it. I’d actively root against them like I do the Utah Jazz.

Amen, my brother! I became a fan in 1967 because it was a Louisiana team. Not because it was a winner. I remained a fan until now because it is OUR team. Not because it has been a winner.

AsylumGuido · 12-03-2024, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by Sinner

Understood. For me, it’s just something about them SAINTS.

Bull****. It's only about winning for you.

Sinner · 12-03-2024, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Bull****. It's only about winning for you.

I’m still here. And we AINT winning.
But yeah, “YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME! HELLO?”

iceshack149 · 12-03-2024, 09:53 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Bull****. It's only about winning for you.

Well, to be fair:

"Winning isn’t everything; it's the only thing" is a well-known quotation in sports. It is attributed to UCLA Bruins football coach Henry Russell ("Red") Sanders.[1] He is on record with at least two different versions of the quotation during his coaching career. Sanders is reputed to have used this quote even as far back as the 1930s.

Sure, it's a simple take but paying fans want this and not losing.

Sinner · 12-03-2024, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

Well, to be fair:

Sure, it's a simple take but paying fans want this and not losing.

Seriously, as a fan of a professional football team, being scorned for the fact that “It's only about winning” for me… that be some f*cked up sh*t right there.

arsaint · 12-04-2024, 11:42 AM

There is losing, and then there is LOSING.

"losing" is when you get outplayed or outcoached by a team on a given day, regroup, then bounce back. Fans can digest those losses and move along for the most part.

LOSING is a cultural/habitual/inexplicable thing. You lose to teams that you should not. You don't lose due to a great play by the other team but instead due to sheer incompetence on the part of your team. Your players can't be consistent. Fundamentals are missing. Coaching is subpar. All the breaks seem to go against you. And yet your organization seems to be asleep at the wheel, foot to the floor, headed off a cliff.

We are doing the later... It is not acceptable.

If your goal as Saints brass is to have asses in seats at the Dome, then you better do something. Either outreach to visiting teams fans or improving the talent level on the Saints.

Sinner · 12-04-2024, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by arsaint

There is losing, and then there is LOSING.

"losing" is when you get outplayed or outcoached by a team on a given day, regroup, then bounce back. Fans can digest those losses and move along for the most part.

LOSING is a cultural/habitual/inexplicable thing. You lose to teams that you should not. You don't lose due to a great play by the other team but instead due to sheer incompetence on the part of your team. Your players can't be consistent. Fundamentals are missing. Coaching is subpar. All the breaks seem to go against you. And yet your organization seems to be asleep at the wheel, foot to the floor, headed off a cliff.

We are doing the later... It is not acceptable.

If your goal as Saints brass is to have asses in seats at the Dome, then you better do something. Either outreach to visiting teams fans or improving the talent level on the Saints.

THANK YOU. ^^^ ON POINT.

saintsfan1976 · 12-06-2024, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

The fans can stop supporting the Saints if they want. They’ll be in another city faster than you can say Benson.

Fans aren't to blame for inept leadership. I'll bet you Loomis leaves New Orleans before the franchise does.

Mannings will form an ownership group.

12-03-2024, 07:25 PM	#21
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,948	Re: No longer suckered in... Originally Posted by rezburna My support won’t travel. I’m loyal to the city of New Orleans and the teams associated with it. I’d actively root against them like I do the Utah Jazz. Understood. For me, it’s just something about them SAINTS.
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: No longer suckered in... Originally Posted by rezburna My support won’t travel. I’m loyal to the city of New Orleans and the teams associated with it. I’d actively root against them like I do the Utah Jazz. Amen, my brother! I became a fan in 1967 because it was a Louisiana team. Not because it was a winner. I remained a fan until now because it is OUR team. Not because it has been a winner.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: No longer suckered in... Originally Posted by Sinner Understood. For me, it’s just something about them SAINTS. Bull****. It's only about winning for you.

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Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,948	Re: No longer suckered in... Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Bull****. It's only about winning for you. I’m still here. And we AINT winning. But yeah, “YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME! HELLO?”
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iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,299 Blog Entries: 1	Re: No longer suckered in... Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Bull****. It's only about winning for you. Well, to be fair: "Winning isn’t everything; it's the only thing" is a well-known quotation in sports. It is attributed to UCLA Bruins football coach Henry Russell ("Red") Sanders.[1] He is on record with at least two different versions of the quotation during his coaching career. Sanders is reputed to have used this quote even as far back as the 1930s. Sure, it's a simple take but paying fans want this and not losing. Sinner likes this.

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Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,948	Re: No longer suckered in... Originally Posted by iceshack149 Well, to be fair: Sure, it's a simple take but paying fans want this and not losing. Seriously, as a fan of a professional football team, being scorned for the fact that “It's only about winning” for me… that be some fcked up sht right there.
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arsaint Saint Historian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: deep in the bowels of a hidden bunker, somewhere under the brick & steel of a nondescript building.. Posts: 2,715	Re: No longer suckered in... There is losing, and then there is LOSING. "losing" is when you get outplayed or outcoached by a team on a given day, regroup, then bounce back. Fans can digest those losses and move along for the most part. LOSING is a cultural/habitual/inexplicable thing. You lose to teams that you should not. You don't lose due to a great play by the other team but instead due to sheer incompetence on the part of your team. Your players can't be consistent. Fundamentals are missing. Coaching is subpar. All the breaks seem to go against you. And yet your organization seems to be asleep at the wheel, foot to the floor, headed off a cliff. We are doing the later... It is not acceptable. If your goal as Saints brass is to have asses in seats at the Dome, then you better do something. Either outreach to visiting teams fans or improving the talent level on the Saints. neugey, mapcow and Sinner like this.

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Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,948	Re: No longer suckered in... Originally Posted by arsaint There is losing, and then there is LOSING. "losing" is when you get outplayed or outcoached by a team on a given day, regroup, then bounce back. Fans can digest those losses and move along for the most part. LOSING is a cultural/habitual/inexplicable thing. You lose to teams that you should not. You don't lose due to a great play by the other team but instead due to sheer incompetence on the part of your team. Your players can't be consistent. Fundamentals are missing. Coaching is subpar. All the breaks seem to go against you. And yet your organization seems to be asleep at the wheel, foot to the floor, headed off a cliff. We are doing the later... It is not acceptable. If your goal as Saints brass is to have asses in seats at the Dome, then you better do something. Either outreach to visiting teams fans or improving the talent level on the Saints. THANK YOU. ^^^ ON POINT.
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12-06-2024, 04:04 PM	#29
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,846 Blog Entries: 3	Re: No longer suckered in... Originally Posted by rezburna The fans can stop supporting the Saints if they want. They’ll be in another city faster than you can say Benson. Fans aren't to blame for inept leadership. I'll bet you Loomis leaves New Orleans before the franchise does. Mannings will form an ownership group.