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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by neugey It'd be cool to see a team lose their Super Bowl virginity and break through - Lions, Vikings, Bills, Chargers. It's been awhile and the last one was the Eagles which was just gross. Screw the ...

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Old 12-03-2024, 02:03 PM   #1
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Originally Posted by neugey View Post
It'd be cool to see a team lose their Super Bowl virginity and break through - Lions, Vikings, Bills, Chargers. It's been awhile and the last one was the Eagles which was just gross.
Screw the Vikings.
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Old 12-03-2024, 03:57 PM   #2
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Screw the Vikings.
Amen. I despise them as almost as intently as those other non-winners, the Panties and Failclowns.
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Old 12-03-2024, 05:29 PM   #3
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Amen. I despise them as almost as intently as those other non-winners, the Panties and Failclowns.

The Vikings soft spot is more about my family, friends and colleagues who are fans. Totally understand if the rest of you need to hold your nose. Just think of Justin Jefferson (LSU) LOL
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Old 12-03-2024, 05:40 PM   #4
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The Vikings soft spot is more about my family, friends and colleagues who are fans. Totally understand if the rest of you need to hold your nose. Just think of Justin Jefferson (LSU) LOL
This forum is becoming more about despising teams with a better winning percentage than us, than it is about us winning. They need to hold their nose whenever we stink up the dome.
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Old 12-03-2024, 12:06 PM   #5
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This "mortgage the future" strategy started in 2011, with that taste of Super Bowl lingering. The concept of winning another Super Bowl with Brees during the high point of his career didn't cause us to cry out much. A couple of us may have wondered why pay to keep the team intact, but nobody called for new ownership or Loomis' firing. The reality of the choice between keeping known productive assets vs. replacement with the unknown is not a novel concept in sports or exclusive to the Saints in the NFL.

Further, it's actually less profitable to win a Super Bowl than just make the playoffs. As we have seen, perceived value of players is distorted with a ring on their fingers. This causes a huge inflation on current roster salaries across the board. What's worse, is that the QB position appears to be WAY overvalued vs total contribution. (I present practically any QB other than Mahomes as evidence, and even then, he was working off a rookie contract for his first 5 years). My point is, the potential for winning increases asset value, and not necessarily winning itself if there's no real downside to losing (like in the English Premier League). Merch, concessions, co-marketing are more important to the bottom line. No change in ownership will dislodge the economic model. What will change the direction is loss of ticket revenues and lower merch sales. You can point to the J-E-T-S jets jets jets and the GI-AINTS as examples of teams where they can field a roster of penguins and still sell out the stadium and sell merch.

So, stop clutching your pearls about the things you can't change and stop going to the games/buying gear. That will motivate everyone to alter strategies relative to winning/managing salary cap.
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Old 12-03-2024, 04:25 PM   #6
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The fans can stop supporting the Saints if they want. They’ll be in another city faster than you can say Benson.
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The fans can stop supporting the Saints if they want. They’ll be in another city faster than you can say Benson.
I would follow them to New Jersey if they would go there to put a WINNING TEAM together.
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Old 12-03-2024, 06:18 PM   #8
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I would follow them to New Jersey if they would go there to put a WINNING TEAM together.
My support won’t travel. I’m loyal to the city of New Orleans and the teams associated with it. I’d actively root against them like I do the Utah Jazz.
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My support won’t travel. I’m loyal to the city of New Orleans and the teams associated with it. I’d actively root against them like I do the Utah Jazz.
Understood. For me, it’s just something about them SAINTS.
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Understood. For me, it’s just something about them SAINTS.
Bull****. It's only about winning for you.
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