Your Plan For 2025

hitta · 12-29-2024, 10:33 AM

Our record is bad, but we've shown potential during this season. We went on a streak at one point and it was stopped by the Rams. Now look what the Rams are doing. We've played some good teams close games. I don't think we should be entirely cynical about what happened this season. I think Ewers will be the QB of the class in the long run. I think Beck has potential too, he's just looked bad at times because he's been let down by his receivers. I'd be happy if we ended up with either to develop. I expect people to think me crazy

, but I see what I see.
'

lee909 · 12-29-2024, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by hitta

I think Beck has potential too, he's just looked bad at times because he's been let down by his receivers.
'

Well just think how badly the Saints WR and DL can let him down

neugey · 12-29-2024, 03:34 PM

I think it can be argued that we are in the worst possible position of any team going into this offseason.

- The Browns and Jets are also a royal mess, but also have young top-tier defensive pieces (Garrett and Sauce) to work with or trade for a great haul.

- The Titans, Pats and Panthers don't have much to work with, but aren't in cap heck like we are, not even close.

- The Raiders (Bowers, Meyers) and Giants (Nabers) have foundational offensive pieces to build around. Same with the Bears ... I think at least one of Williams and Odunze will pan out very well.

We've managed to architect a colossal mess. Any options toward a non-violent coup of Loomis need to be pursued.

Sinner · 12-29-2024, 04:09 PM

Been saying this for four years now. Our problem is with the old lady, who intends to take our Saints with her to the grave.

lee909 · 12-29-2024, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by Sinner

Been saying this for four years now. Our problem is with the old lady, who intends to take our Saints with her to the grave.

This

I have been looking at the roster in 2025/26 to see when they might actually get some relief and breathing room, 2026 on paper looks like the year but Loomis mess has left a roster that on paper has 39 players but in reality it has 25 because 14 of them players have void years. So yes there is at least 52ml in cap space but you have half a roster and that 52ml will drop even more when Loomis is forced to add more void years or add years to players deals. You can cut Carr and add 30ml more to the cap but that if Loomis doesn't tinker with it in 2025 which he likely will

Benson being utterly clueless about football and Loomis essentially being his own boss and GM has completely screwed up any oversight of the team.

There isn't a team in the league with less talent in the skill positions
The only top talent they have in them is 1 concussion away from seriously having to think about walking away for his own good, though getting rid of a QB that seems to walk him into a number of them

Sinner · 12-29-2024, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

This

I have been looking at the roster in 2025/26 to see when they might actually get some relief and breathing room, 2026 on paper looks like the year but Loomis mess has left a roster that on paper has 39 players but in reality it has 25 because 14 of them players have void years. So yes there is at least 52ml in cap space but you have half a roster and that 52ml will drop even more when Loomis is forced to add more void years or add years to players deals. You can cut Carr and add 30ml more to the cap but that if Loomis doesn't tinker with it in 2025 which he likely will

Benson being utterly clueless about football and Loomis essentially being his own boss and GM has completely screwed up any oversight of the team.

There isn't a team in the league with less talent in the skill positions
The only top talent they have in them is 1 concussion away from seriously having to think about walking away for his own good, though getting rid of a QB that seems to walk him into a number of them

COLD HARD TRUTH. ^^^

K Major · 12-29-2024, 11:13 PM

You fire EVERYONE in the offseason. Start playing as many young guys as possible in 2025. If you win 6 games next season, so be it. Land top quality draft picks. Get a franchise QB in 2026.

Clean up the cap as much as you can so you can afford better DEPTH.

This franchise has been bad (4-19 vs winning team last 3 years) for a while.

A hard reset & drafting well (Day 1 starters) is the only way out of this mess.

But again, Saints are in this mess because of Mickey Loomis.

papz · 12-30-2024, 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

You fire EVERYONE in the offseason. Start playing as many young guys as possible in 2025. If you win 6 games next season, so be it. Land top quality draft picks. Get a franchise QB in 2026.

I'm good with half those amount of wins.

FinSaint · 12-30-2024, 07:53 AM

Give Rizzi the HC job, shed as much cap as possible, continue coaching up the young guys while moving out older players, tank next season for the #1 pick on Arc Manning in the 2026 draft, and get a new GM and HC to usher in the dynasty.

Easy.

12-29-2024, 10:33 AM	#1
hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,343	Re: Your Plan For 2025 Our record is bad, but we've shown potential during this season. We went on a streak at one point and it was stopped by the Rams. Now look what the Rams are doing. We've played some good teams close games. I don't think we should be entirely cynical about what happened this season. I think Ewers will be the QB of the class in the long run. I think Beck has potential too, he's just looked bad at times because he's been let down by his receivers. I'd be happy if we ended up with either to develop. I expect people to think me crazy , but I see what I see. '
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12-29-2024, 03:03 PM	#2
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,875 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Your Plan For 2025 Originally Posted by hitta I think Beck has potential too, he's just looked bad at times because he's been let down by his receivers. ' Well just think how badly the Saints WR and DL can let him down

12-29-2024, 03:34 PM	#3
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,879 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Your Plan For 2025 I think it can be argued that we are in the worst possible position of any team going into this offseason. - The Browns and Jets are also a royal mess, but also have young top-tier defensive pieces (Garrett and Sauce) to work with or trade for a great haul. - The Titans, Pats and Panthers don't have much to work with, but aren't in cap heck like we are, not even close. - The Raiders (Bowers, Meyers) and Giants (Nabers) have foundational offensive pieces to build around. Same with the Bears ... I think at least one of Williams and Odunze will pan out very well. We've managed to architect a colossal mess. Any options toward a non-violent coup of Loomis need to be pursued. Sinner likes this.

12-29-2024, 04:09 PM	#4
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,072	Re: Your Plan For 2025 Been saying this for four years now. Our problem is with the old lady, who intends to take our Saints with her to the grave.
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12-29-2024, 05:57 PM	#5
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,875 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Your Plan For 2025 Originally Posted by Sinner Been saying this for four years now. Our problem is with the old lady, who intends to take our Saints with her to the grave. This I have been looking at the roster in 2025/26 to see when they might actually get some relief and breathing room, 2026 on paper looks like the year but Loomis mess has left a roster that on paper has 39 players but in reality it has 25 because 14 of them players have void years. So yes there is at least 52ml in cap space but you have half a roster and that 52ml will drop even more when Loomis is forced to add more void years or add years to players deals. You can cut Carr and add 30ml more to the cap but that if Loomis doesn't tinker with it in 2025 which he likely will Benson being utterly clueless about football and Loomis essentially being his own boss and GM has completely screwed up any oversight of the team. There isn't a team in the league with less talent in the skill positions The only top talent they have in them is 1 concussion away from seriously having to think about walking away for his own good, though getting rid of a QB that seems to walk him into a number of them neugey, Sinner, bobdog86 and 1 others like this.
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12-29-2024, 06:17 PM	#6
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,072	Re: Your Plan For 2025 Originally Posted by lee909 This I have been looking at the roster in 2025/26 to see when they might actually get some relief and breathing room, 2026 on paper looks like the year but Loomis mess has left a roster that on paper has 39 players but in reality it has 25 because 14 of them players have void years. So yes there is at least 52ml in cap space but you have half a roster and that 52ml will drop even more when Loomis is forced to add more void years or add years to players deals. You can cut Carr and add 30ml more to the cap but that if Loomis doesn't tinker with it in 2025 which he likely will Benson being utterly clueless about football and Loomis essentially being his own boss and GM has completely screwed up any oversight of the team. There isn't a team in the league with less talent in the skill positions The only top talent they have in them is 1 concussion away from seriously having to think about walking away for his own good, though getting rid of a QB that seems to walk him into a number of them COLD HARD TRUTH. ^^^
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12-29-2024, 11:13 PM	#7
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,849 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Your Plan For 2025 You fire EVERYONE in the offseason. Start playing as many young guys as possible in 2025. If you win 6 games next season, so be it. Land top quality draft picks. Get a franchise QB in 2026. Clean up the cap as much as you can so you can afford better DEPTH. This franchise has been bad (4-19 vs winning team last 3 years) for a while. A hard reset & drafting well (Day 1 starters) is the only way out of this mess. But again, Saints are in this mess because of Mickey Loomis. dizzle88, Sinner and lee909 like this.

12-30-2024, 08:40 AM	#8
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,799	Re: Your Plan For 2025 Originally Posted by K Major You fire EVERYONE in the offseason. Start playing as many young guys as possible in 2025. If you win 6 games next season, so be it. Land top quality draft picks. Get a franchise QB in 2026. I'm good with half those amount of wins. K Major likes this.

12-30-2024, 07:53 AM	#9
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,964	Re: Your Plan For 2025 Give Rizzi the HC job, shed as much cap as possible, continue coaching up the young guys while moving out older players, tank next season for the #1 pick on Arc Manning in the 2026 draft, and get a new GM and HC to usher in the dynasty. Easy.

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