Observations from Saints loss to Raiders in the Superdome

12-29-2024, 07:53 PM

Ah a good season or 3 of losing 12 or more games is like natures forest fire.

It just burns up and gets rid of all the older less cap friendly guys and leaves room for some younger talent while the team gets a fresh set of coaches.

It also burns out all the fake fans who will start following other clubs because the Saints suck again and won’t be that fun to watch.

It might be ugly, but sometimes it’s necessary.

The pendulum can only be held back so long before it swings full. And it’s coming.

Exciting times are ahead!

lee909 · 12-29-2024, 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Ah a good season or 3 of losing 12 or more games is like natures forest fire.

It just burns up and gets rid of all the older less cap friendly guys and leaves room for some younger talent while the team gets a fresh set of coaches.

It also burns out all the fake fans who will start following other clubs because the Saints suck again and won’t be that fun to watch.

It might be ugly, but sometimes it’s necessary.

The pendulum can only be held back so long before it swings full. And it’s coming.

Exciting times are ahead!

Truth in that
Its just if Loomis allows it to happen or if he tries to delay it again and leave the team in 6-8 win pergatory. But if you get the right people in and scout well you can turn things around pretty quick. Hopefully one 2026/27 drafts will have a good crop of QBs because nothing turns a franchise round quicker than a QB on a rookie deal

Sinner · 12-29-2024, 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Ah a good season or 3 of losing 12 or more games is like natures forest fire.

It just burns up and gets rid of all the older less cap friendly guys and leaves room for some younger talent while the team gets a fresh set of coaches.

It also burns out all the fake fans who will start following other clubs because the Saints suck again and won’t be that fun to watch.

It might be ugly, but sometimes it’s necessary.

The pendulum can only be held back so long before it swings full. And it’s coming.

Exciting times are ahead!

You could have written that three years ago, and it would be true. Now it’s just funny. See you here next week? Or is it “next year”? Or maybe a couple or several years after that? Or for as long as old lady Benson sticks around? LMFAO

SmashMouth · 12-29-2024, 09:11 PM

lee909 · 12-29-2024, 09:18 PM

That's Cam knowing he has Loomis by the dangily bits because he's owed 20ml(cap hit) and it'll cost them money on the cap to cut him

BakoSaint · 12-30-2024, 08:43 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

That's Cam knowing he has Loomis by the dangily bits because he's owed 20ml(cap hit) and it'll cost them money on the cap to cut him

Maybe the Saints should shut the door to the Saints Hall of Fame to Cam and never induct him. True greats like Brees retired when they knew they could no longer contribute, not dressed like a pirate and robbed their teams future. Cam always got the stats to get paid, but his inability to play at another level in the biggest games is one reason the Saints never got another ring, while players like Aaron Donald, Vin Miller, and Chris Jones did. Jordan has a fun personality, but in the end it all remains about himself not the team.

leilung · 12-30-2024, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by papz

I didn’t watch the game but saw Miller only had a handful of touches. What he hurt? If he wasn’t, he shouldn’t have a roster spot on this team next season.

So much work to be done this off season. Hopefully we can find the right person to help us build. I hope we don’t spend draft capital this year on a quarterback. We can wait until ‘26 if we’re looking for a franchise quarterback. Build the trenches and better days will come.

Miller is a Glass Tiger and NOT a durable RB. It's pretty clear that he has checked out and waiting to be put on waivers.

neugey · 12-30-2024, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by leilung

Miller is a Glass Tiger and NOT a durable RB. It's pretty clear that he has checked out and waiting to be put on waivers.

Let Miller walk. There are a crap ton of RB's in the upcoming NFL draft that will outperform Miller. He was never the guy in the TCU peak season and I never got what we saw in him. Another empty RAS score instead of competent evaluation.

dizzle88 · 12-30-2024, 12:38 PM

https://x.com/Saints/status/18734945...bAmigs43w&s=19

Demario doing his best to show that he needs to retire too.

He's been god awful most of the last 2 years, everyone saw it yesterday. At least 2 or 3 steps late on every single play, missed tackles, can't defend a pass, yet wants to preach and tells people to not panic on a 4 year playoff drought.

Sounds like Loomis put the script in front of him. Been a great player for us, but he's missed the mark here and he's no longer the player he was.

Cut bait, get younger players.

Halo · 12-30-2024, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by papz

I didn’t watch the game but saw Miller only had a handful of touches. What he hurt? If he wasn’t, he shouldn’t have a roster spot on this team next season.

So much work to be done this off season. Hopefully we can find the right person to help us build. I hope we don’t spend draft capital this year on a quarterback. We can wait until ‘26 if we’re looking for a franchise quarterback. Build the trenches and better days will come.

Clyde Edwards-Helaire started. He was good. Have no idea what is up with Miller.

12-29-2024, 07:53 PM	#11
Threaded by jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,700 Rating: (0 votes - average) Ah a good season or 3 of losing 12 or more games is like natures forest fire. It just burns up and gets rid of all the older less cap friendly guys and leaves room for some younger talent while the team gets a fresh set of coaches. It also burns out all the fake fans who will start following other clubs because the Saints suck again and won’t be that fun to watch. It might be ugly, but sometimes it’s necessary. The pendulum can only be held back so long before it swings full. And it’s coming. Exciting times are ahead! UK_WhoDat and neugey like this.
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12-29-2024, 08:00 PM	#12
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,846 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Observations from Saints loss to Raiders in the Superdome Originally Posted by jnormand Ah a good season or 3 of losing 12 or more games is like natures forest fire. It just burns up and gets rid of all the older less cap friendly guys and leaves room for some younger talent while the team gets a fresh set of coaches. It also burns out all the fake fans who will start following other clubs because the Saints suck again and won’t be that fun to watch. It might be ugly, but sometimes it’s necessary. The pendulum can only be held back so long before it swings full. And it’s coming. Exciting times are ahead! Truth in that Its just if Loomis allows it to happen or if he tries to delay it again and leave the team in 6-8 win pergatory. But if you get the right people in and scout well you can turn things around pretty quick. Hopefully one 2026/27 drafts will have a good crop of QBs because nothing turns a franchise round quicker than a QB on a rookie deal

12-29-2024, 08:25 PM	#13
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,011	Re: Observations from Saints loss to Raiders in the Superdome Originally Posted by jnormand Ah a good season or 3 of losing 12 or more games is like natures forest fire. It just burns up and gets rid of all the older less cap friendly guys and leaves room for some younger talent while the team gets a fresh set of coaches. It also burns out all the fake fans who will start following other clubs because the Saints suck again and won’t be that fun to watch. It might be ugly, but sometimes it’s necessary. The pendulum can only be held back so long before it swings full. And it’s coming. Exciting times are ahead! You could have written that three years ago, and it would be true. Now it’s just funny. See you here next week? Or is it “next year”? Or maybe a couple or several years after that? Or for as long as old lady Benson sticks around? LMFAO
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12-29-2024, 09:11 PM	#14
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12-29-2024, 09:18 PM	#15
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12-30-2024, 08:43 AM	#16
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,189	Re: Observations from Saints loss to Raiders in the Superdome Originally Posted by lee909 That's Cam knowing he has Loomis by the dangily bits because he's owed 20ml(cap hit) and it'll cost them money on the cap to cut him Maybe the Saints should shut the door to the Saints Hall of Fame to Cam and never induct him. True greats like Brees retired when they knew they could no longer contribute, not dressed like a pirate and robbed their teams future. Cam always got the stats to get paid, but his inability to play at another level in the biggest games is one reason the Saints never got another ring, while players like Aaron Donald, Vin Miller, and Chris Jones did. Jordan has a fun personality, but in the end it all remains about himself not the team.
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12-30-2024, 10:10 AM	#17
leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,389	Re: Observations from Saints loss to Raiders in the Superdome Originally Posted by papz I didn’t watch the game but saw Miller only had a handful of touches. What he hurt? If he wasn’t, he shouldn’t have a roster spot on this team next season. So much work to be done this off season. Hopefully we can find the right person to help us build. I hope we don’t spend draft capital this year on a quarterback. We can wait until ‘26 if we’re looking for a franchise quarterback. Build the trenches and better days will come. Miller is a Glass Tiger and NOT a durable RB. It's pretty clear that he has checked out and waiting to be put on waivers. Halo, neugey and papz like this.

12-30-2024, 10:33 AM	#18
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,752 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Observations from Saints loss to Raiders in the Superdome Originally Posted by leilung Miller is a Glass Tiger and NOT a durable RB. It's pretty clear that he has checked out and waiting to be put on waivers. Let Miller walk. There are a crap ton of RB's in the upcoming NFL draft that will outperform Miller. He was never the guy in the TCU peak season and I never got what we saw in him. Another empty RAS score instead of competent evaluation. Halo and leilung like this.

12-30-2024, 12:38 PM	#19
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,504	Re: Observations from Saints loss to Raiders in the Superdome https://x.com/Saints/status/18734945...bAmigs43w&s=19 Demario doing his best to show that he needs to retire too. He's been god awful most of the last 2 years, everyone saw it yesterday. At least 2 or 3 steps late on every single play, missed tackles, can't defend a pass, yet wants to preach and tells people to not panic on a 4 year playoff drought. Sounds like Loomis put the script in front of him. Been a great player for us, but he's missed the mark here and he's no longer the player he was. Cut bait, get younger players.
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12-30-2024, 01:23 PM	#20
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,811 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Observations from Saints loss to Raiders in the Superdome Originally Posted by papz I didn’t watch the game but saw Miller only had a handful of touches. What he hurt? If he wasn’t, he shouldn’t have a roster spot on this team next season. So much work to be done this off season. Hopefully we can find the right person to help us build. I hope we don’t spend draft capital this year on a quarterback. We can wait until ‘26 if we’re looking for a franchise quarterback. Build the trenches and better days will come. Clyde Edwards-Helaire started. He was good. Have no idea what is up with Miller.