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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...-abuse-scandal Honestly, if they aided in helping the church cover up or recover from abusing children, I am not sure I can follow them anymore. Can anyone give more information about this?...

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Old 02-03-2025, 08:59 AM   #1
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If true this is absolutely disgusting

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...-abuse-scandal

Honestly, if they aided in helping the church cover up or recover from abusing children, I am not sure I can follow them anymore. Can anyone give more information about this?
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Old 02-03-2025, 09:58 AM   #2
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From the Associated Press, which should be more reputable than some. However, the timing of dropping this story on Super Bowl week in NOLA is about as creepy as some of the things alleged.
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From the Associated Press, which should be more reputable than some. However, the timing of dropping this story on Super Bowl week in NOLA is about as creepy as some of the things alleged.
Mostly old news that's being rehashed to take advantage of the visibility available to maximize clicks and the related ad revenues. Note the byline on the story. It's not credited to any individual reports and simply carries a generic Associated Press byline. Not condoning anything that the Saints did or didn't do, but this is opportunistic grandstanding, pure and simple.
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Old 02-03-2025, 12:55 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido View Post
Mostly old news that's being rehashed to take advantage of the visibility available to maximize clicks and the related ad revenues. Note the byline on the story. It's not credited to any individual reports and simply carries a generic Associated Press byline. Not condoning anything that the Saints did or didn't do, but this is opportunistic grandstanding, pure and simple.

The AP News version of the article has the byline ... Jim Mustain and Brett Martel


https://apnews.com/article/new-orlea...4a9db1897f8171
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Originally Posted by neugey View Post
The AP News version of the article has the byline ... Jim Mustain and Brett Martel


https://apnews.com/article/new-orlea...4a9db1897f8171
Mustain isn't Associated Press. He is with National Catholic Reporter and has been rehashing this story since 2019.

https://www.ncronline.org/authors/jim-mustain

It appears Mustain came to Martel to get the story back out there again.

https://www.americamagazine.org/voices/brett-martel
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Old 02-03-2025, 03:14 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido View Post
Mustain isn't Associated Press. He is with National Catholic Reporter and has been rehashing this story since 2019.

https://www.ncronline.org/authors/jim-mustain

It appears Mustain came to Martel to get the story back out there again.

https://www.americamagazine.org/voices/brett-martel

That's good to know. There may be more bias here than we should see from supposedly-objective investigative reporting.


Still, if there's an email trail ... it might get interesting. We saw how quickly Gruden was dealt with.


It ticks me off when press people sit on stories for so long. There are real survivors out there that deserve the truth, not a publicity stunt.
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido View Post
Mostly old news that's being rehashed to take advantage of the visibility available to maximize clicks and the related ad revenues. Note the byline on the story. It's not credited to any individual reports and simply carries a generic Associated Press byline. Not condoning anything that the Saints did or didn't do, but this is opportunistic grandstanding, pure and simple.
I've been a long time fan and this is the first I've heard of it. So while it may have taken place 7+ years ago, old news to some is brand new news to others.

However dubious the timing of this rehash of history, this is horrific. To poo poo is away is nothing short of abominable.
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I've been a long time fan and this is the first I've heard of it. So while it may have taken place 7+ years ago, old news to some is brand new news to others.

However dubious the timing of this rehash of history, this is horrific. To poo poo is away is nothing short of abominable.
There was a big thread on this very subject right here in the forum back in 2020. I remember it was right before the pandemic. What those individual priests did was horrendous and they all deserve to be punished.

Okay, I found the thread. This is a response from the Saints, posted in that thread, not so coincidentally a couple of weeks prior to the Super Bowl in 2020:

Statement from the New Orleans Saints

While there is current litigation relative to the New Orleans Archdiocese and clergy sex abuse, our comments are limited only to the scope of our involvement. The New Orleans Saints organization has always had a very strong relationship with the Archdiocese. The Archdiocese reached out to a number of community and civic minded leaders seeking counsel on handling the pending media attention that would come with the release of the clergy names in November of 2018. Greg Bensel, Senior Vice President of Communications for the New Orleans Saints, was contacted and offered input on how to work with the media. The advice was simple and never wavering. Be direct, open and fully transparent, while making sure that all law enforcement agencies were alerted. The New Orleans Saints, Greg Bensel and Mrs. Gayle Benson were and remain offended, disappointed and repulsed by the actions of certain past clergy. We remain steadfast in support of the victims who have suffered and pray for their continued healing.

Further, the Saints have no interest in concealing information from the press or public. At the current discovery stage in the case of Doe v. Archdiocese, the Saints, through their counsel, have merely requested the court to apply the normal rules of civil discovery to the documents that the Saints produced and delivered to Mr. Doe's counsel. Until the documents are admitted into evidence at a public trial or hearing in the context of relevant testimony by persons having knowledge of the documents and the events to which they pertain, the use of the documents should be limited to the parties to the case and their attorneys. If admitted into evidence of the case, the documents and the testimony pertaining to them will become part of the public record of the trial of the case.

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There was a big thread on this very subject right here in the forum back in 2020. I remember it was right before the pandemic. What those individual priests did was horrendous and they all deserve to be punished.

Okay, I found the thread. This is a response from the Saints, posted in that thread, not so coincidentally a couple of weeks prior to the Super Bowl in 2020:

Statement from the New Orleans Saints

While there is current litigation relative to the New Orleans Archdiocese and clergy sex abuse, our comments are limited only to the scope of our involvement. The New Orleans Saints organization has always had a very strong relationship with the Archdiocese. The Archdiocese reached out to a number of community and civic minded leaders seeking counsel on handling the pending media attention that would come with the release of the clergy names in November of 2018. Greg Bensel, Senior Vice President of Communications for the New Orleans Saints, was contacted and offered input on how to work with the media. The advice was simple and never wavering. Be direct, open and fully transparent, while making sure that all law enforcement agencies were alerted. The New Orleans Saints, Greg Bensel and Mrs. Gayle Benson were and remain offended, disappointed and repulsed by the actions of certain past clergy. We remain steadfast in support of the victims who have suffered and pray for their continued healing.

Further, the Saints have no interest in concealing information from the press or public. At the current discovery stage in the case of Doe v. Archdiocese, the Saints, through their counsel, have merely requested the court to apply the normal rules of civil discovery to the documents that the Saints produced and delivered to Mr. Doe's counsel. Until the documents are admitted into evidence at a public trial or hearing in the context of relevant testimony by persons having knowledge of the documents and the events to which they pertain, the use of the documents should be limited to the parties to the case and their attorneys. If admitted into evidence of the case, the documents and the testimony pertaining to them will become part of the public record of the trial of the case.
All that aside, enjoy all the red and green sh*t stains and skid marks while you mop up our beloved dome tonight. Sick to my stomach that we didn’t even get to sniff a pipe dream of a Super Bowl in our house this year.
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido View Post
Mostly old news that's being rehashed to take advantage of the visibility available to maximize clicks and the related ad revenues. Note the byline on the story. It's not credited to any individual reports and simply carries a generic Associated Press byline. Not condoning anything that the Saints did or didn't do, but this is opportunistic grandstanding, pure and simple.
Not condoning it but you sure as hell are making excuses. You are disgusting, not even one iota of the concern, anger or sympathy that every other poster on this board has expressed.
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